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#1  Edited By ULTRAstarkiller

Both versions as of Empire Strikes Back

Disney Canon feats vs Non Canon Feats

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Legends because it's the same as canon Vader and more

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Legends Vader stomps.

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#4  Edited By TheVivas

Legends.

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yeah this battle was a good idea, nice battle OP. We should have Saren pin this to the top of the forum showcasing how a well thought out battle thread should be done. Bravo!

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No stomping as of now, but Legends wins simply due to greater exposure.

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@eisenfauste: You should Canon Vader has good feats in Vader Down and Lords of the Sith. So I agree, you should tell him.

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they are same

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they are same

No they have different feats up until ESB.

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Legends and Canon Vader are roughly equal, canon Vader got some quality feats right out the door after the disney reboot. His force push is strong enough to break open Lylek shells which is durable enough to withstand blaster bolts. Also took out an entire Twilek crew that was armed without a scratch. Crossed a star destroyer that was falling apart in minutes time via force speed. He stands a fair chance. Legends Vader does have more feats though tbh due to a longer running time. He also has more dueling feats. We've yet to see more dueling feats for canon Vader, as of now he's only fought Kanan and Ezra who he stomped, and the cyborg Man Cal guy in Darth Vader #15, problem is that guy is featless, and Vader ran, but it was to save time by getting help from Aphra to kill the Mon Cal. I'd say Legends Vader takes it by a hair, canon Vader still needs some better lightsaber dueling feats, then I'll comfortably be able to say that he will win.

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@farrtttba said:

they are same

No they have different feats up until ESB.

you think writers are high when they are drawing vader in EU ?

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@ultrastarkiller said:
@farrtttba said:

they are same

No they have different feats up until ESB.

you think writers are high when they are drawing vader in EU ?

I'm not sure I understand your question.

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#14  Edited By ponello

You should change the Rules- Canon feats vs non canon feats Vader

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@ponello said:

You should change the Rules- Canon feats vs non canon feats Vader

It's the same thing but if it will help

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And people are wrong. Legends and Canon Vader are not in the same continuity, they are not the same version of the character.

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#17  Edited By Jackofalltrades2

@inphase:

Canon Vader has no feats anywhere near Legends Vader tanking Starkillers amped lightning when non-amped SK could charge up the accelerator cannon of an ISD :/

That feat shits on any feat performed in Canon by orders of magnitudes.....

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#18  Edited By Inphase

@jackofalltrades2: Never said canon Vader was more durable, and Legends Vader tanking Starkiller's lightning is absolute PIS anyway. That's the same Vader that died from old Palpatine's lightning which is weaker than Starkiller's in his prime while amped. Canon Vaders force push would mess up Legends Vader if they got through his force shield, possibly even crippling him. If they engaged in Lightsaber combat though, Legends Vader takes it.

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@ninjawarrior268: Not really they have different feats in the comics and books

From what I hear, everything in canon is also put into the legends universe.

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@ninjawarrior268: Not true, the Legend and canon timelines split in many places. Force Unleashed and Star Wars Rebels contradict eachother, Master Tholme's death is different in both timelines. Quinlan and Aayla never had a relationship unlike Legends. Deppa Billaba was put into a coma by General Grevious in the canon timeline, while in Legends she fell into a coma due to excessive dark side use, being driven mad. In Legends she never woke up from her coma, while in canon she did eventually wake up and took Caleb Dume as her apprentice. In canon she mastered form 3 of lightsaber combat, while in Legends she mastered form 7. The 2 timelines don't fit together in many places, they're different. These were just off the top of my head. Force Awakens is the most glaring contradiction to Legends continuity. The previous films are the only theatrical events that happen in both timelines.

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#21  Edited By ULTRAstarkiller

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@ninjawarrior268: Not true, the Legend and canon timelines split in many places. Force Unleashed and Star Wars Rebels contradict eachother, Master Tholme's death is different in both timelines. Quinlan and Aayla never had a relationship unlike Legends. Deppa Billaba was put into a coma by General Grevious in the canon timeline, while in Legends she fell into a coma due to excessive dark side use, being driven mad. In Legends she never woke up from her coma, while in canon she did eventually wake up and took Caleb Dume as her apprentice. In canon she mastered form 3 of lightsaber combat, while in Legends she mastered form 7. The 2 timelines don't fit together in many places, they're different. These were just off the top of my head. Force Awakens is the most glaring contradiction to Legends continuity. The previous films are the only theatrical events that happen in both timelines.

This, the biggest indicator that they're different is Kylo and Caedeus

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There's really not so much of a difference as people are suggesting.

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There's really not so much of a difference as people are suggesting.

Agree, I think it will be a good match.

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LEGENDS VADER by merit of disparity

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Canon Vader by scaling. Hes arguably superior to ROTS Sidious (whose most impressive feats are found in the ROTS Novelization, which is Canon) which IMO Cant be said about Legends Vader, despite a greater number of feats.

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Canon Vader by scaling. By ROTJ Hes arguably superior to ROTS Sidious (whose most impressive feats are found in the ROTS Novelization, which is Canon) which IMO Cant be said about Legends Vader, despite a greater number of feats.

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Still Canon Vader, by scaling and logic is far closer to Sidious than Legends Vader who is only 80% of ROTJ Sidious.

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Canon Vader is more impressive.

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Didn’t canon Vader thanos snap a planet??

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Cannon Vader has shown better feats than legends Vader at this point. I don't see why people see a disparity between all legends and all cannon. Sure some characters are far more powerful in legends (sidious, yoda, dooku, Anakin, luke). But some cannon are also more powerful than their legends counterpart (Vader, maul). It really just depends on the character.

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Didn’t canon Vader thanos snap a planet??

No, he just killed all the inhabitants on the planet.

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Canon

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@mygod000: being 80% of legends sidious is more impressive than being above canon rots sidious.

Legends sidious is a life wiper, canon isn't close to that.

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#37  Edited By MyGod000

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@mygod000: being 80% of legends sidious is more impressive than being above canon rots sidious.

Legends sidious is a life wiper, canon isn't close to that.

Sidious is beyond a life wiper he can easily destroy planets.

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This line also exist in canon as well since the movies are of the highest canon.

Sidious>>>Death Star.

canon Vader is in parity with ROTJ Sidious, he is massively above ROTS Sidious. you could argue Vader in George lucas canon in force powers is above ROTS Sidious in force powers because Anakin is a rival and stated to be the Jedi most formidable threat.

while Legends Vader is only 80% of ROTJ Sidious. two difference levels, now I'll agree that Legends have bigger feats regarding the force, but that doesn't mean greater or better. it just means they have shown more with the force. until someone comes out and states otherwise.

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Legends Vader is still stronger

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Canon Vader.

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I'm going with canon, but maybe there's some feats or statements in legends that I'm missing.

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Canon.

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#46  Edited By King-Ragnar

Eh, given how Disney canon is giving Vader an absurd amount of runs in Marvel, he's probably the closest person in Canon to their EU counterpart in terms of power. In a fight, I'd back EU Vader.

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There's nothing Canon Vader has done that puts him above his Legends counterpart. No better scaling, no better feats, only questionable statements and recency bias.

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Legends Vader and its not particularly close

Legends is still massively stronger than Canon

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Pretty sure any Legends Star Wars character would stomp their canon counterpart

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I'm going with Legends Darth Vader, due to his speed.

But i want to know who you think wins @lord_tenebrous ?