Laxus Runs the One Piece Gauntlet

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Laxus Dreyar

  • Win by any means
  • Basic knowledge
  • In character
  • Start 10 meters apart
  • Fight in Wano
  1. Enel
  2. Ace
  3. Katakuri
  4. Eustass Kid
  5. Fujitora
  6. Big Mom
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Should stop at 2 with how high Ace has recently been scaling.

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Stops at big mom. Lol at kid being here

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Stops at big mom. Lol at kid being here

Why lol at kidd being here? he was going around overpowering Big mom and tanking some her strongest attack.

Stop at: Ace, The man was going around clashing with Old Beard.

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Stops at 2. Ace scales to Jimbei and has ftl feats off Blackbeard.

Gets god stomped at 3.

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Stops at 5.

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Solos the gauntlet with very little difficulty

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Clears

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#11  Edited By heykorby

@wushu59 said:

Stops at 2. Ace scales to Jimbei and has ftl feats off Blackbeard.

Gets god stomped at 3.

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Solos the gauntlet with very little difficulty

Not true at all.

OT: Ace destroys him.

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Why is Round 1 even a thing when that just spiting poor Enel lmao

Anyways he clears with current feats

Current Laxus>>>Kirin>>>Suzaku>>>Human Selene>>>OP

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@omnisage said:

@dimitri1220 said:

Solos the gauntlet with very little difficulty

Not true at all.

OT: Ace destroys him.

Why not?

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@omnisage said:

@dimitri1220 said:

Solos the gauntlet with very little difficulty

Not true at all.

OT: Ace destroys him.

Why not?

Ace and everybody above him have observation Haki, which stops Laxus blitzing or any ranged attacks.

They have better physicals and AP as well, and the reason Ace wins is because he should be able to nuke Laxus before Laxus nukes him.

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@omnisage: Observation haki doesn't give them an instant dodge, especially against Laxus' nukes. OP has consistently shown (even in Film Red apparently) that omnidirectional sound speed attacks are impossible for them to dodge, so an omnidirectional bare minimum lightning speed nuke is hitting them no matter what unless they're a logia. Also Enel's only lightning speed, Kidd's constantly surrounded by metal and has a metal arm, and Big Mom never dodges attacks, so they're not dodging shit.

No one in OP has comparable physicals to Laxus, he stomps them all in that department by feats and scaling. He shrugs off Ace's island level nuke even in Alvarez arc, let alone currently.

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Stops at Katakuri, faster and FS is way too much for him

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Katakuri curbs him to death without using future sight. Dragon slayer boy wont be able to even perceive him

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@omnisage: Observation haki doesn't give them an instant dodge,

But it still lets them predict the movement of their opponents.

especially against Laxus' nukes.

Ace can fly and possibly attack Laxus before he nukes.

OP has consistently shown (even in Film Red apparently) that omnidirectional sound speed attacks are impossible for them to dodge, so an omnidirectional bare minimum lightning speed nuke is hitting them no matter what unless they're a logia.

It also showed that Shanks can jump so far in the air he was at the height of a mountain, and all of them should be able to blitz before he nukes.

Also Enel's only lightning speed, Kidd's constantly surrounded by metal and has a metal arm, and Big Mom never dodges attacks, so they're not dodging shit.

Enel loses, IDK about Kidd, And Big Mom tanked lightning the size of a mountain+ while starving.

No one in OP has comparable physicals to Laxus (*cough cough* Kaido lifted an island *cough cough*), he stomps them all in that department by feats and scaling. He shrugs off Ace's island level nuke even in Alvarez arc, let alone currently.

Pretty sure they do, and Ace could clash with Kuzan's ice, I'm pretty sure he could burn Laxus.

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@omnisage:

But it still lets them predict the movement of their opponents.

Which again is useless if they can't dodge the attack.

Ace can fly and possibly attack Laxus before he nukes.

Ace is a logia so he's surviving his nukes no matter what. For Laxus to win, he nukes the place as many times as it takes for the country to get demolished and sent into the sea where Ace drowns.

It also showed that Shanks can jump so far in the air he was at the height of a mountain, and all of them should be able to blitz before he nukes.

That's Shanks, arguably in the top 3 strongest characters in the verse. Also even if they were somehow able to dodge it by jumping (which again is very questionable), we have seen multiple times in the rooftop fight that even something as slow as lightning (at least for them) can tag them since they can't dodge.

Enel loses, IDK about Kidd, And Big Mom tanked lightning the size of a mountain+ while starving.

Kidd's lacks the durability and AP to stand a chance, and any speed advantage that you could possibly argue for him gets flushed down the drain since his metal (pretty much all of his attacks + his arm which is attached to his body) would attract lightning. Mountain+ is fodder to even current Alvarez Lisanna.

Pretty sure they do, and Ace could clash with Kuzan's ice, I'm pretty sure he could burn Laxus.

Current Laxus is casually continental, one could even argue multi-continental. The strongest attack in One Piece is Bajrang Gun which is what, continental? So it's on par with a casual Laxus, and no one on this gauntlet scales to it.

Ace's heat hasn't shown anything on the level of Alvarez Natsu or possibly even before that.

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#21  Edited By NikaGod

@dimitri1220: you are supposing Laxus will always throws his small mountain AOE lightning right off the bat. He only did it once and never again. I would think that was an outlier tbh. All his other lightning attacks ranges from small building to large building at best. How can every OP on this list fail to dodge such small range attacks? And Laxus lacks of stamina to keep up with anyone here. For how long he can fight? Minutes? OP can fight for hours and days.

Lisanna no selling the equivalent of Acnologia roar is amusing. You took that information from VSB?

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#22  Edited By OmniSage
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@omnisage:

But it still lets them predict the movement of their opponents.

Which again is useless if they can't dodge the attack.

They dodge the attack because they can predict it, they have the reaction and combat speed.

Ace can fly and possibly attack Laxus before he nukes.

Ace is a logia so he's surviving his nukes no matter what. For Laxus to win, he nukes the place as many times as it takes for the country to get demolished and sent into the sea where Ace drowns.

Ace.... Ace can fly.

It also showed that Shanks can jump so far in the air he was at the height of a mountain, and all of them should be able to blitz before he nukes.

That's Shanks, arguably in the top 3 strongest characters in the verse. Also even if they were somehow able to dodge it by jumping (which again is very questionable), we have seen multiple times in the rooftop fight that even something as slow as lightning (at least for them) can tag them since they can't dodge.

When did this happen? because Luffy and Zoro have dodged light.

Enel loses, IDK about Kidd, And Big Mom tanked lightning the size of a mountain+ while starving.

Kidd's lacks the durability and AP to stand a chance, and any speed advantage that you could possibly argue for him gets flushed down the drain since his metal (pretty much all of his attacks + his arm which is attached to his body) would attract lightning.

Ok.

Mountain+ is fodder to even current Alvarez Lisanna.

You don't get it, she tanked it while starving, she could tank nukes and bombs while normal with only a little smoke cough.

Pretty sure they do, and Ace could clash with Kuzan's ice, I'm pretty sure he could burn Laxus.

Current Laxus is casually continental, one could even argue multi-continental.

Woah Woah, scans plz?

And does he casually throw around 'multi-continental' blast?

The strongest attack in One Piece is Bajrang Gun which is what, continental? So it's on par with a casual Laxus, and no one on this gauntlet scales to it.

Hax my man, Hax.

And also damage like piercing, burning, crushing, etc.

Ace's heat hasn't shown anything on the level of Alvarez Natsu or possibly even before that.

Clashing with Kuzan's ice and Whitebeard's quake, Kuzan could freeze tsunamis, Doflamingo, the ocean, and a log.

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@dimitri1220: Sorry but I gotta reply to this

Which again is useless if they can't dodge the attack.

Expect this case they can, the nuke isn't big or fast enough to suggest that they couldn't dodge it before it land or just plainly outrun it.

Ace is a logia so he's surviving his nukes no matter what. For Laxus to win, he nukes the place as many times as it takes for the country to get demolished and sent into the sea where Ace drowns.

He could just fly and destroying the terrain also means that Laxus has to deal with being surrounded by sea and it not like he can fly like Ace, not to mention Laxus hasn't DC capable of destroying through countries's bedrock.

What even makes you think Ace will just sit there and wait until Laxus destroy land?

That's Shanks, arguably in the top 3 strongest characters in the verse. Also even if they were somehow able to dodge it by jumping (which again is very questionable), we have seen multiple times in the rooftop fight that even something as slow as lightning (at least for them) can tag them since they can't dodge.

Are trying to argue their lightning speed or something around that? And the reason they were getting tag by lightning was because they getting caught off guard and lightning was sentient meaning it was literally following them around to catch them off guard.

Ace was capable react within BB gravitational pull something not even light can escape, that is far above some lighting bolt.

Kidd's lacks the durability and AP to stand a chance, and any speed advantage that you could possibly argue for him gets flushed down the drain since his metal (pretty much all of his attacks + his arm which is attached to his body) would attract lightning. Mountain+ is fodder to even current Alvarez Lisanna.

Kidd overpowered a slash from Big mom and tanked some of her strongest attack, the same Big mom that was clashing with Kaido, calling his attack mountain lvl is pure lack of knowledge. And Kidd isn't worry about his metal at all as he refer to it "it a bunch of junk anyway", he could literally let his metal go and get them back at any moments and in this case he doesn't even need that, he could pull Laxus when ever he want through Awakening.

Current Laxus is casually continental, one could even argue multi-continental. The strongest attack in One Piece is Bajrang Gun which is what, continental? So it's on par with a casual Laxus, and no one on this gauntlet scales to it.

Laxus hasn't shown feat near that lvl. It multi-continental, but that feat isn't needed here as Ace was clashing with Whitebeard's Quakes, that alone solo Laxus.

Ace's heat hasn't shown anything on the level of Alvarez Natsu or possibly even before that.

Ace was passively stopping snow from failing down in drum Island, Natsu doesn't have Heat feat on that lvl.

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#24  Edited By Paxa

Ace is fodder ffs.The Bouchi Manga is not canon and will never be accepted as that

Mid is trash as well.His feats suxs ass

In fact,that whoule Gauntlet is full of frauds with shitty feats

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@paxa said:

Ace is fodder ffs.The Bouchi Manga is not canon and will never be accepted as that

Mid is trash as well.His feats suxs ass

In fact,that whoule Gauntlet is full of frauds with shitty feats

Nothing Laxus can do will affect Ace, while Ace can just pierce Laxus with flame spears.

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#26  Edited By exauce

@paxa:

Ace is fodder ffs.The Bouchi Manga is not canon and will be accepted as that

It a manga adaptation of a canon novel and it publish by shueisha, you can't more canon than that.

Mid is trash as well.His feats suxs ass

Overpowered Big mom and puts her on her back, Laxus doesn't have feats on that lvl.

In fact,that whoule Gauntlet is full of frauds with shitty feats

And Laxus isn't above most of them feat wise Lol.

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@paxa said:

In fact,that whoule Gauntlet is full of frauds with shitty feats

I don’t know about that one man. By your standards, Katakuri shouldn’t be considered a fraud.

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@nixtollo: Better check the newest Coverstory

CC clowened Kata aka Mr. FS.Hes a fraud

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stops at enel since enel is lightning himself, the element that laxus is using

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Katakuri snaps him like a twig.

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you are supposing Laxus will always throws his small mountain AOE lightning right off the bat. He only did it once and never again. I would think that was an outlier tbh. All his other lightning attacks ranges from small building to large building at best. How can every OP on this list fail to dodge such small range attacks? And Laxus lacks of stamina to keep up with anyone here. For how long he can fight? Minutes? OP can fight for hours and days.

Why would it be an outlier? His opponent was far away from him so he used a ranged attack. If he finds that some people in this gauntlet are too fast for his small range attacks (which is arguable), then he nukes them and calls it a day. Stamina means nothing when they can't put a scratch on Laxus. He could stand still and they'd die of exhaustion. Big Mom especially should not be brought up in a stamina debate as even Chopper could tank her attacks when she was starving.

Lisanna no selling the equivalent of Acnologia roar is amusing. You took that information from VSB?

You think the AP of Acnologia's roar is mountain level?

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@omnisage:

They dodge the attack because they can predict it, they have the reaction and combat speed.

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Once again, One Piece characters have shown the inability to dodge omnidirectional sound-speed attacks even with observation. Yes, they sound speed. They aren't dodging Laxus' omnidirectional lightning nuke.

Ace.... Ace can fly.

Scan? If you're talking about him "flying" over short distances then that's useless. Worst case scenario, he flies away from Laxus because he knows he can't beat him, goes to a nearby town/island to eat food and stockpile on energy only to find Laxus stealing all of his food and water until Ace starves/thirsts to death. Laxus can travel at bare minimum lightning speed as he's shown multiple times.

When did this happen? because Luffy and Zoro have dodged light.

The Big Mom and Kaido vs Supernova fight. Law, Zoro, and Killer all got tagged by lightning:

You don't get it, she tanked it while starving, she could tank nukes and bombs while normal with only a little smoke cough.

Starving or not starving, it's irrelevant due to how weak the attack was. I can bring up how Alvarez Erza had many of her bones broken (to the point where she could only move one arm) and she was still able to one shot a meteor that's at least large island level with downplay, one shot dragon Irene, and fall down from hundreds of feet in the air. Current Erza is hilariously stronger, and Laxus scales slightly above her since he won a 1v1 against her not too long ago.

Woah Woah, scans plz?

And does he casually throw around 'multi-continental' blast?

In AP, not DC. He scales above Irene's human form, who reconstructed and compressed the entire country of Fiore (which is continental in size) to 1/20 of its original size, while also rearranging the country's geography meaning she literally flung entire cities and mountains (even Island as shown with Tenrou Island) from all over the country at high speeds in a very short timeframe. It's at the very least a small continental spell which she did with very little effort. She kept this spell intact for an entire day while strengthening an army of 1 million and fighting Erza + Wendy.

Hax my man, Hax.

What hax do the OP chars in this gauntlet have that will give them the win?

And also damage like piercing, burning, crushing, etc.

Laxus has great resistance to all of those.

Clashing with Kuzan's ice and Whitebeard's quake, Kuzan could freeze tsunamis, Doflamingo, the ocean, and a log.

Freezing water isn't going to help much. Clashing Whitebeard's quake is an AP feat not a heat feat, and it's still inferior to Irene's Universe One.

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@exauce:

Sorry but I gotta reply to this

Of course lmao

Expect this case they can, the nuke isn't big or fast enough to suggest that they couldn't dodge it before it land or just plainly outrun it.

I've already explained how they can't dodge sound omnidirectional attacks, even shown in Film Red apparently.

He could just fly and destroying the terrain also means that Laxus has to deal with being surrounded by sea and it not like he can fly like Ace, not to mention Laxus hasn't DC capable of destroying through countries's bedrock.

Scan of Ace flying? And yes Laxus can fly, turning into lightning is one of his main methods of attacking. Laxus can spam his nukes until the country gets submerged in water, he has more than enough magic for that.

What even makes you think Ace will just sit there and wait until Laxus destroy land?

I don't, and it doesn't matter because if he tried attacking Laxus while Laxus is destroying Wano, he'd die of exhaustion because he can't damage him.

Are trying to argue their lightning speed or something around that? And the reason they were getting tag by lightning was because they getting caught off guard and lightning was sentient meaning it was literally following them around to catch them off guard.

In the air when they can't move/dodge, they're below lightning speed in reaction. We've seen this many times in the rooftop fight. Lightning following them around means nothing since it'll be moving like a slug given that you think they're FTL+.

Ace was capable react within BB gravitational pull something not even light can escape, that is far above some lighting bolt.

Overrated feat, Blackbeard's blackhole doesn't work remotely like a real black hole. In the same chapter, he says the blackhole has infinite power, which is already laughable, and then right after he shoots the town back out (which again isn't like a blackhole irl) and we see how much destruction his "infinite power" did, which isn't impressive at all. The town became scrap wood, if it was really infinite power then there would be nothing left of it. BB's blackhole has crappy feats and one vague statement.

Kidd overpowered a slash from Big mom and tanked some of her strongest attack, the same Big mom that was clashing with Kaido, calling his attack mountain lvl is pure lack of knowledge. And Kidd isn't worry about his metal at all as he refer to it "it a bunch of junk anyway", he could literally let his metal go and get them back at any moments and in this case he doesn't even need that, he could pull Laxus when ever he want through Awakening.

Read again, I was responding to Omnisage's reply of Big Mom tanking a "mountain+" lightning bolt. Kidd's AP is fodder compared to Laxus, slamming a bunch of metal to his body isn't going to do anything to him unlike what it did to Big Mom.

Laxus hasn't shown feat near that lvl. It multi-continental, but that feat isn't needed here as Ace was clashing with Whitebeard's Quakes, that alone solo Laxus.

Bajrang Gun ain't multi-continental, even if it was then it'd be at the very low end. Either way, Laxus scales above that and WB's quakes.

Ace was passively stopping snow from failing down in drum Island, Natsu doesn't have Heat feat on that lvl.

That's a fodder heat feat, even chapter 6 Natsu no diffed glass (1600 C to start melting it, he did it in a second so his heat >>>).

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@dimitri1220:

Of course lmao

My bad but I had to.

I've already explained how they can't dodge sound omnidirectional attacks, even shown in Film Red apparently.

Or you mean dodge sound in general? Sound is not dodgeble unless you can get out of range of it, I though this conversation was over with Apoo's ability?

You can't physically dodge sound withotu getting out of range of it, it call omnidirectional for a reason and Laxus attacks aren't omnidirectional.

Scan of Ace flying? And yes Laxus can fly, turning into lightning is one of his main methods of attacking. Laxus can spam his nukes until the country gets submerged in water, he has more than enough magic for that.

Here him flying when he saved Luffy in marineford, or when fought Jinbei. Turning into said Lightning is not something that going to help him in fighting as he will be easy to dodge and blast away. Magic and DC that he has never shown, when as Laxus shown DC capable of doing that?

I don't, and it doesn't matter because if he tried attacking Laxus while Laxus is destroying Wano, he'd die of exhaustion because he can't damage him.

Ace clashed with Old Beard and was damaging guys like Teach, he will have no problem damaging him, and Ace can fight for 5 days against Jinbei and still have enough energy to clash with Old Beard, so good luck with him dying of exhaustion.

In the air when they can't move/dodge, they're below lightning speed in reaction. We've seen this many times in the rooftop fight. Lightning following them around means nothing since it'll be moving like a slug given that you think they're FTL+.

And what is this based on? You mean Zoro getting caught off guard after a massive attack that left gasping for air? How does that make him below lighting in reaction? Lol. We haven't seen it many times, that quite literally the only time they got time by lightning and it happened when they were caught of guard.

And Yes anyone in that roof is beyond Lightspeed, and I don't even see why this being mentioned, Ace wasn't on the roof and he can fly Lol.

Overrated feat, Blackbeard's blackhole doesn't work remotely like a real black hole. In the same chapter, he says the blackhole has infinite power, which is already laughable, and then right after he shoots the town back out (which again isn't like a blackhole irl) and we see how much destruction his "infinite power" did, which isn't impressive at all. The town became scrap wood, if it was really infinite power then there would be nothing left of it. BB's blackhole has crappy feats and one vague statement.

So your problem is that the town didn't seem to be crush with infinite power so we should discredit everything he said about his own power which he describe to be the strongest the devil fruit?

You not liking how the town was destroyed doesn't invalid the fact he stated to pull people with such gravitational force that not even light can escape and Ace was able to react within said pull, that FTL speeds right there.

Read again, I was responding to Omnisage's reply of Big Mom tanking a "mountain+" lightning bolt. Kidd's AP is fodder compared to Laxus, slamming a bunch of metal to his body isn't going to do anything to him unlike what it did to Big Mom.

That cool then. Laxus doesn't have anything close to overpowering Big mom and putting her on her back, and Kidd did using his strength not metal, you thinking about another feat.

Bajrang Gun ain't multi-continental, even if it was then it'd be at the very low end. Either way, Laxus scales above that and WB's quakes.

With what feats?

That's a fodder heat feat, even chapter 6 Natsu no diffed glass (1600 C to start melting it, he did it in a second so his heat >>>).

Stoping snow thought an entire country is much better than melting some glass. it not even in same realm.

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@exauce:

My bad but I had to.

I expected it xD

Or you mean dodge sound in general? Sound is not dodgeble unless you can get out of range of it, I though this conversation was over with Apoo's ability?

You can if you have good enough travel speed, but no one on this list does except Enel, but we can all agree that he's fodder.

You can't physically dodge sound withotu getting out of range of it, it call omnidirectional for a reason and Laxus attacks aren't omnidirectional.

Laxus' attacks have big enough range that the OP characters won't be able to dodge it even if they have good enough reaction speed. They lack travel speed.

Herehim flying when he saved Luffy in marineford, or when fought Jinbei. Turning into said Lightning is not something that going to help him in fighting as he will be easy to dodge and blast away. Magic and DC that he has never shown, when as Laxus shown DC capable of doing that?

The first instance is him going down, if anything that's him falling lol. The second is him in the air using an attack, that's not flying. He scales to human Irene who has very casual continental spells, so even if he can't blow up Wano in one go, he has more than enough MP to spam his nukes.

Ace clashed with Old Beard and was damaging guys like Teach, he will have no problem damaging him, and Ace can fight for 5 days against Jinbei and still have enough energy to clash with Old Beard, so good luck with him dying of exhaustion.

Laxus can kill all those characters with little diff, so Ace isn't doing anything. If needed, Laxus travel to some random town via lightning, eat up, then travel back. That's assuming Ace doesn't drown beforehand since he can't fly (or at least for long).

And what is this based on? You mean Zoro getting caught off guard after a massive attack that left gasping for air? How does that make him below lighting in reaction? Lol. We haven't seen it many times, that quite literally the only time they got time by lightning and it happened when they were caught of guard.

Gasping for air or not, please explain how he is supposed to dodge an attack while he is immobilized midair. Killer was perfectly fine and still got struck by Indra midair. You can't use the excuse of being caught off guard since he knew the attack was coming via observation haki. It's simple: on the ground they can easily dodge normal lightning, but midair they can't because they immobilized.

And Yes anyone in that roof is beyond Lightspeed, and I don't even see why this being mentioned, Ace wasn't on the roof and he can fly Lol.

It's being mentioned to show that your "lightning followed them so ofc it would hit them" argument makes doesn't work.

So your problem is that the town didn't seem to be crush with infinite power so we should discredit everything he said about his own power which he describe to be the strongest the devil fruit?

You not liking how the town was destroyed doesn't invalid the fact he stated to pull people with such gravitational force that not even light can escape and Ace was able to react within said pull, that FTL speeds right there.

No that's supporting evidence. Also I realized I posted Bluenote's scan but didn't mention it: He says the same thing about limitless power with his black hole and Tenro Gildarts crushed it, who's <<<< Laxus. These characters calling the power of their blackhole infinite and limitless are obviously exaggerating, there is no logic in believing that they have infinite power. Feats > vague statements that are contradicted by everything else.

That cool then. Laxus doesn't have anything close to overpowering Big mom and putting her on her back, and Kidd did using his strength not metal, you thinking about another feat.

With what feats?

He scales to the BDSK and well above human Irene's U1, putting him above any OP character.

Stoping snow thought an entire country is much better than melting some glass. it not even in same realm.

As an AP feat sure, but even then it's island level max. How hot do you think it is?

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Laxus wank has to stop. Katakuri absolutely folds him, and yet we have people making a fool of themselves continuously.

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They dodge the attack because they can predict it, they have the reaction and combat speed.

...

Once again, One Piece characters have shown the inability to dodge omnidirectional sound-speed attacks even with observation. Yes, they sound speed. They aren't dodging Laxus' omnidirectional lightning nuke.

Well, nobody really has to deal with that problem because he can't get past Ace.

Ace.... Ace can fly.

Scan? If you're talking about him "flying" over short distances then that's useless. Worst case scenario, he flies away from Laxus because he knows he can't beat him, goes to a nearby town/island to eat food and stockpile on energy only to find Laxus stealing all of his food and water until Ace starves/thirsts to death. Laxus can travel at bare minimum lightning speed as he's shown multiple times.

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I don't know how fast he was flying but it was fast enough for him to look a little bit like a gleam of light (Top right).

When did this happen? because Luffy and Zoro have dodged light.

The Big Mom and Kaido vs Supernova fight. Law, Zoro, and Killer all got tagged by lightning:

Isn't that omni lightning? there was lightning coming from literally everywhere while in groups.

You don't get it, she tanked it while starving, she could tank nukes and bombs while normal with only a little smoke cough.

Starving or not starving, it's irrelevant due to how weak the attack was. I can bring up how Alvarez Erza had many of her bones broken (to the point where she could only move one arm) and she was still able to one shot a meteor that's at least large island level with downplay,

That was with POF bullshit sunny.

one shot dragon Irene and fall down from hundreds of feet in the air.

There really isn't any fall damage in OP except Doflamingo and Kaido's, since Doflamingo could fall right through a city and survive even after all his injuries.

Current Erza is hilariously stronger, and Laxus scales slightly above her since he won a 1v1 against her not too long ago.

Meh, I feel Ace still can pierce him due to his fight with Yamato.

Woah Woah, scans plz?

And does he casually throw around 'multi-continental' blast?

In AP, not DC. He scales above Irene's human form, who reconstructed and compressed the entire country of Fiore (which is continental in size) to 1/20 of its original size, while also rearranging the country's geography meaning she literally flung entire cities and mountains (even Island as shown with Tenrou Island) from all over the country at high speeds in a very short timeframe. It's at the very least a small continental spell which she did with very little effort. She kept this spell intact for an entire day while strengthening an army of 1 million and fighting Erza + Wendy.

So... he didn't do the continental stuff but someone else did and he scales above that someone else due to beating someone stronger than that person?

I'm going to say that still doesn't matter since Ace is a logia.

Hax my man, Hax.

What hax do the OP chars in this gauntlet have that will give them the win?

Ace can likely pierce him with fire spears.

Katakuri can see the future and can dodge and manipulate himself to get away from attacks (like he did with Luffy)

Fujitora likely bends Laxus over.

Big Mom is Big Mom.

And also damage like piercing, burning, crushing, etc.

Laxus has great resistance to all of those.

I'll believe this but can you show me resistance to piercing and crushing?

Clashing with Kuzan's ice and Whitebeard's quake, Kuzan could freeze tsunamis, Doflamingo, the ocean, and a log.

Freezing water isn't going to help much. Clashing Whitebeard's quake is an AP feat not a heat feat, and it's still inferior to Irene's Universe One.

Isn't her feat a feat above everybodys? wasn't she also able to change the moon? how does Laxus scale to her?

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@pics said:

Laxus wank has to stop. Katakuri absolutely folds him, and yet we have people making a fool of themselves continuously.

Same way he absolutely folds CC in the Coverstory?Oh wait,CC clowned Katakuri

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@paxa said:
@pics said:

Laxus wank has to stop. Katakuri absolutely folds him, and yet we have people making a fool of themselves continuously.

Same way he absolutely folds CC in the Coverstory?Oh wait,CC clowned Katakuri

do you have a scan?

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@paxa said:
@pics said:

Laxus wank has to stop. Katakuri absolutely folds him, and yet we have people making a fool of themselves continuously.

Same way he absolutely folds CC in the Coverstory?Oh wait,CC clowned Katakuri

do you have a scan?

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Mr. FS cant even see CC with his pre-cog.Ridiculous.Not to say Katakuri has shitty stats.He can attack Laxus for years and he would deal 0 damage.Yet one AoE attack insta kills Katakuri

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@paxa: You read One Piece with your eyes blindfolded while keeping the most unrealistic, linear mindset when it comes to One Piece. This isn't Fairy Tail where you can turn your brain off while reading the series. Katakuri "vs" Caesar hardly had any context or what it did to Katakuri and Oven beyond the Germa escaping. Katakuri could have simply seen the future where the poison didn't pose a threat where he'd need to actively escape.

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You can if you have good enough travel speed, but no one on this list does except Enel, but we can all agree that he's fodder.

Yea like Katakuri outrunning Snakeman's punches or Kidd running fast enough to blitz Apoo, Yea and again Laxus power aren't omnidirectional like sound is.

Laxus' attacks have big enough range that the OP characters won't be able to dodge it even if they have good enough reaction speed. They lack travel speed.

His range is irrelevant when he is 10 meters away from his opponent while being slower, a many character here have travel speed to outrun some explosion.

The first instance is him going down, if anything that's him falling lol.

he was literally floating in air while holding Luffy and having a full on conversation, how he is falling when he is clearly inside the fire bolt chilling.

The second is him in the air using an attack, that's not flying.

Ace was literally in air the whole time until he got knock down by Jinbei:

He scales to human Irene who has very casual continental spells, so even if he can't blow up Wano in one go, he has more than enough MP to spam his nukes.

And scales to Irene because? And said continental spells that are unquantifiable and require prep Lol. He can't blow up Wano he doesn't have the DC to do so, and Wano bed rock is absolutely massive, what makes you think he will go through it?

Laxus can kill all those characters with little diff, so Ace isn't doing anything. If needed, Laxus travel to some random town via lightning, eat up, then travel back. That's assuming Ace doesn't drown beforehand since he can't fly (or at least for long).

With no feat to back it up. The hell you talking about? and since when was Laxus flying for that long? and Ace can fly just fine, and he can fly for long.

Gasping for air or not, please explain how he is supposed to dodge an attack while he is immobilized midair.

He can't that the point, while Ace can fly.

Killer was perfectly fine and still got struck by Indra midair.

Because he was running to try and fish up Kaido and caught off guard by Lightning, it ain't that hard to understand.

You can't use the excuse of being caught off guard since he knew the attack was coming via observation haki. It's simple: on the ground they can easily dodge normal lightning, but midair they can't because they immobilized.

The man is caught off guard simple, Having observation Haki doesn't mean you can't get caught off guard and Killer wasn't in the mid-air he was standing on Kaido's body.

It's being mentioned to show that your "lightning followed them so ofc it would hit them" argument makes doesn't work.

Expect it does, cuz the two people you mentioned were caught off guard after they did an attack and people who hit on the ground were followed around by a sentient lightning bolt.

No that's supporting evidence.

Of the destruction not being to your liking.

Also I realized I posted Bluenote's scan but didn't mention it: He says the same thing about limitless power with his black hole and Tenro Gildarts crushed it, who's <<<< Laxus.

Great but don't cuz that wasn't the point of the mention, it was a mention of Ace's speed not whatever you are thinking.

These characters calling the power of their blackhole infinite and limitless are obviously exaggerating, there is no logic in believing that they have infinite power. Feats > vague statements that are contradicted by everything else.

I really don't care about the blackhole being infinite or limitless the feat is about Ace reacting and moving within a gravitational pull of a blackhole not whatever you thinking.

He scales to the BDSK and well above human Irene's U1, putting him above any OP character.

BDSK? don't know what that is, and again scale to irene because? and again a prep feat that nonquantifiable ain't gonna help.

As an AP feat sure, but even then it's island level max. How hot do you think it is?

Yea at least large Island worth of heat powerful enough to stop snow for a whole day. Definitely hotter than melting some glass, unless you think putting 1600c in air is going to stop snow for a day.

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@exauce: Your whole post (as usual) is a joke. Just gonna address the most obvious bs ones

1) Laxus can attack omnidirectionally. That's like...Level 1 magic shit in Fairy Tail. Super basic stuff.

2) Laxus turns into lightning all the time. His flight is by far superior to Ace's attempt at it. He traveled many miles this way getting from a desert to Tenrou. He uses it to travel distances quickly in fights and over obstacles. He basically has all the feats of using it that you wish Ace had.

3) Natsu's heat >>>>> One Piece as a whole. Warming up the atmosphere is a total non-feat. It doesn't mean anything. Look at what else would have to be true for Ace to do that and see that none of that shit happens. Just narrative shit that adds nothing. It isn't like Ace was causing avalanches or floods while he was there.

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Your whole post (as usual) is a joke. Just gonna address the most obvious bs ones

Great lol.

1) Laxus can attack omnidirectionally. That's like...Level 1 magic shit in Fairy Tail. Super basic stuff.

Then please show me an omnidirectional attack from Laxus. Hope you know what omnidirectional means.

2) Laxus turns into lightning all the time. His flight is by far superior to Ace's attempt at it. He traveled many miles this way getting from a desert to Tenrou. He uses it to travel distances quickly in fights and over obstacles. He basically has all the feats of using it that you wish Ace had.

I don't doubt he can turn into "lightning" but I would love to see a scan of him traveling many miles in air from a desert to Tnerou Island.

I also don't think Laxus can clash with Old Beard or became intangible so no you wish Laxus had Ace's feats.

3) Natsu's heat >>>>> One Piece as a whole.

Natsu's heat isn't relevant to anybody Lol, guys in One piece are heat feat on a climate scale while for you guys Natsu melting literally anything is a great feat.

Warming up the atmosphere is a total non-feat. It doesn't mean anything.

Expect it made a snowy Island to not snow for a day, and it is a feat, a feat on scale Natsu doesn't have.

Look at what else would have to be true for Ace to do that and see that none of that shit happens. Just narrative shit that adds nothing. It isn't like Ace was causing avalanches or floods while he was there.

Expect it has happened or it wouldn't be said Lol, and Ace doing isn't even part of any narrative, the dude was just like you know that man just this island snow to stop for a day, and that was it.

He doesn't need to cause avalanches or floods to change climate, we have seen guys like Aokiji, Akainu and even crocodile change climate Lol.

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Ace is at least country level and ftl. Too fast for Laxus

Speed of light isn't capable escaping Blackbeard's Black Hole move.

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Ace counters BB before pulled in by this move

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This is direct feat from Ace calced at FTL.

Also consistent with Ace being fast enough to intercept Akainu kill shot to Luffy and Sabo using Mera Mera (previously Ace's Devil Fruit) to guard Kizaru's light beams in Stampede

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Katakuri has blitzed Raid Suit attacks which are directly stated to be light speed

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"An attack at the speed of light with a ray-covered sword! It has fencing and high dynamic vision to precisely hit your enemies with a single blow."

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Attack of the Red brother Vinsmoke Ichiji translates to Light Plasma in Kanji text. So light based just like Nji. Katakuri directly blitzed his attack at point blank range.

Also directly kept pace with Gear 4th Snakeman who is obviously a good deal FTL just off the several Gear speed multipliers.

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Power wise, Kat is a lot physically stronger then characters like Doflamingo who has country level feats off the Bird Cage

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@pics: Classic pics excuses.Imagine you cant take down your enemy with 113 hits lol.And yes,i can read Oden Piece without using my Brain.

Anyway,Katakuris AP and Dura is garbage.Shapeshifting is countered with AoE

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Well, nobody really has to deal with that problem because he can't get past Ace.

I completely forgot Laxus has Fairy Law, which have shown to attack intangible beings like Jose's shade. Yeah he beats Ace easily.

I don't know how fast he was flying but it was fast enough for him to look a little bit like a gleam of light (Top right).

That's only the brightness of his fire, nothing to do with his speed. Also it looks more like he's jumping by using his fire, not flying.

Isn't that omni lightning? there was lightning coming from literally everywhere while in groups.

Nope, there are only a couple of lightning bolts. Compare that to the size of Laxus' nuke:

That was with POF bullshit sunny.

Here are the links to both the chapters where Erza encounters the meteor and destroys it. Please find just one instance in which "friend" or "friendship" is used:

https://mangafairy-tail.com/manga/fairy-tail-chapter-518/

https://mangafairy-tail.com/manga/fairy-tail-chapter-519/

If yelling and going all out = PoF BS, then every relevant anime feat falls under that category.

There really isn't any fall damage in OP except Doflamingo and Kaido's, since Doflamingo could fall right through a city and survive even after all his injuries.

None of whom were nearly as injured as Erza was.

Meh, I feel Ace still can pierce him due to his fight with Yamato.

That's fodder to Laxus.

So... he didn't do the continental stuff but someone else did and he scales above that someone else due to beating someone stronger than that person?

Correct

I'm going to say that still doesn't matter since Ace is a logia.

Fairy Law

Ace can likely pierce him with fire spears.

He no diffs that

Katakuri can see the future and can dodge and manipulate himself to get away from attacks (like he did with Luffy)

Once again, lightning nuke

Fujitora likely bends Laxus over.

*gets bent over

Big Mom is Big Mom.

And she loses

I'll believe this but can you show me resistance to piercing and crushing?

He no sold Kyria's cutting abilities, same person who no diffed Erza's swords which can no diff the meteor:

And tanked many of Erza's sword slashes (I'll just post the chapters since they fight all chapter and it's easier):

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-44-page-2.html

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Fairy-Tail-100-Years-Quest-chapter-45-page-1.html

In terms of crushing, that's normal durability and he scales above Irene, who can easily tank continental attacks. This is since for the most part, mages have shown to have equal AP and durability due to the way magic works in FT.

Isn't her feat a feat above everybodys? wasn't she also able to change the moon? how does Laxus scale to her?

Nah you're thinking of Selene, and her moon feat's an outlier since it's a large planet level spell that she did with 0 effort. Irene is weaker than characters who Selene would one shot. Those same characters (Black Dragon Slayer Knights) are on par with Laxus.

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The AoE is at least mountain level and it travels in all directions. Snakeman's and Kidd's are pure AP, nowhere near the same level of DC as Laxus' nuke:

His range is irrelevant when he is 10 meters away from his opponent while being slower, a many character here have travel speed to outrun some explosion.

He can tank their attacks for as long as he wants. What characters here have good travel speed? Attack speed and reaction speed, sure, but OP seriously lacks travel speed minus a few individuals. Oda explicitly stated in the SBS for Volume 85 that Brook has the best travel speed of all the StrawHats and that Zoro ranks higher than Chopper. This is for a 50 meter race. Sure, this is for the WCI arc, but even in Wano we see someone out speeding Luffy going only 200kph. We have a direct author statement + ranking and a direct feat later on to illustrate this.

Ace was literally in air the whole time until he got knock down by Jinbei:

He jumped up, did an attack, fell down and almost touched the ground but Jinbe stopped him. Then he got sent flying by Jinbe and while he was midair he did an attack. 0 signs of flying other than getting thrown around and falling lol.

And scales to Irene because? And said continental spells that are unquantifiable and require prep Lol. He can't blow up Wano he doesn't have the DC to do so, and Wano bed rock is absolutely massive, what makes you think he will go through it?

He's >= the black dragon slayer knights (BDSK) like Suzaku and Kirin, who are comparable to a very casual human Selene. Universe One is extremely quantifiable:

1) We got plenty of statements explaining what it is and how it works. The land gets compressed to 1/20 of its original size or even smaller; people, towns, cities, mountains, and even islands (Tenro Island) get flung across the country at high speeds.

2) The spell is literally called "World Reconstruction magic" and it's not a hyperbole or a play on words since it literally reconstructs the world (or the land you use it on).

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She compressed the land and then afterwards rebuilt it, that's the literal definition of reconstruction. It's in the name, it's what we saw, and it's exactly. All of these details, you can't say that this spell is vague or that we don't know how it works when it's one of the better explained spells in the series lmao.

3) We literally see the entire country get affected by it

Prep time means nothing when she used all of her MP for the spell in an instant after she struck the ground with her staff. The only thing that took time was for her magic to travel the country, she had already used it all in one go. Even if you disregarded this, at most the magic took a couple of minutes to travel throughout the entire country. In page 12 she poured out her magic, and 6 pages later Zeref had felt it (chapter 486). This map shows where they were (Irene's one of the "?" on the top):

Hargeon and Magnolia are close to each other on the map despite them being 370km away from each other stated directly by Dimaria and Wahl). Irene and Zeref are much further away (around 2x distance) and yet he could almost instantly feel the effect of her magic. It would take very little time for her spell to travel throughout the entire country.

Also your argument falls to pieces when you realize that she had kept the spell intact for over a day whilst fighting Erza + Wendy and powering up an army of 1 million. She constantly had to control that U1 amounts of MP the entire time, which fits the narrative since U1 was extremely easy and casual for her.

Now that that's done with, Laxus has more than enough MP to get rid of Wano from the face of the earth. His nukes are big enough that it wouldn't take a long time, but it's not necessary since he has Fairy Law (I forgot he did lol) and it affects intangible beings like Jose's shade (BoS FT).

With no feat to back it up. The hell you talking about? and since when was Laxus flying for that long? and Ace can fly just fine, and he can fly for long.

He traveled from some random desert to Tenro Island in a small amount of time as a lightning bolt:

Because he was running to try and fish up Kaido and caught off guard by Lightning, it ain't that hard to understand.

My guy he had just attacked Kaido and was midair. He has observation haki and was fully focused so you can't say he didn't see it coming.

The man is caught off guard simple, Having observation Haki doesn't mean you can't get caught off guard and Killer wasn't in the mid-air he was standing on Kaido's body.

He was in midair, and how exactly was he caught off guard? Literally nothing was going on that would make him not focused and unable to use his observation haki.

Expect it does, cuz the two people you mentioned were caught off guard after they did an attack and people who hit on the ground were followed around by a sentient lightning bolt.

Nope

Of the destruction not being to your liking.

More like your liking. BB said his attack has infinite force, which alone is a very obvious hyperbole. Then we see the consequences of his attacks, which show that it didn't have infinite force at all, matter of fact all it did was destroy a town.

Great but don't cuz that wasn't the point of the mention, it was a mention of Ace's speed not whatever you are thinking.

You used vague statements that are obvious hyperboles that are contradicted by its showings. I showed you the same kinda statement in FT and how the black hole got no diffed by a weakened character before any timeskip.

I really don't care about the blackhole being infinite or limitless the feat is about Ace reacting and moving within a gravitational pull of a blackhole not whatever you thinking.

My guy, you and I both know that BB's black hole =/= irl black hole. I ain't debating this.

Yea at least large Island worth of heat powerful enough to stop snow for a whole day. Definitely hotter than melting some glass, unless you think putting 1600c in air is going to stop snow for a day.

Island level max from what I've seen (which is fodder to Laxus), and again what's the heat?