

Rules:
Current Law
Saiyan Saga Goku
Kaioken x3
Location: Elbaf
Goku fires a ki blast and law gets destroyed.
Law can’t… dodge?
Pretty sure Goku can blitz this but if Law's room goes up first he easily outsmarts & trolls this version of Goku
Goku should be faster than Law by this point. He one taps.
@ninjarizer: not with the radius of ki beams and energy blasts he cant.
@scythenger: Why not? Why would it even reach him with room available? Goku isn't the nuke them all type. He very much loses this fight. Nappa has better odds than he does.
@pandalumina: That aint how Goku fights. We all know he'll want to fight Law at his strongest so he'll let him use room and then get one shotted
@ninjarizer: not with the radius of ki beams and energy blasts he cant.
Room would teleport those away.
@paxa: "he can't beat this character who has a specific resistance to his bullshit, but this dumb brick TOTALLY takes him out"
This is like pretending that just because Goku could outpunch Molecule Man that he wins. No chance.
If FatBeard can tank Law´s shit then Goku can just ignores it lol
@kajin_style: @wabubub: law would get blitzed any ways. He's also not strong enough to deflect any blasts or beams. Goku can spam them so he'd also get overwhelmed easily.
Goku destroyed hits pocket dimension. Deflected and blocked his intangible attacks. Will also benefit from vegeta's feat of destroying the htc.
And has er resistance. He also physically touched and deflected a er attack. An attack that can also erase ghosts. Then there was his shaking the world of void feat.
Goku also implied he could defeat fusion zamasu after he merged with trunks timeline and was expanding his reach further. Goku was also able to physically hit and interact with timeline merged zamasu with a ki blast. Goku moved in stopped time as well. None of laws hax if it even lands would effect goku. Not with his feats and shown resistances.
If law trapped goku inside his room he'll doom himself because goku would just fire a ki blast or beam that'll cover the entire room up. Law will be caught in the aoe and would be unable to teleport it away. Goku destroyed a black hole too.
@omnihater: goku's not a brick though.
@kajin_style: @wabubub: law would get blitzed any ways. He's also not strong enough to deflect any blasts or beams. Goku can spam them so he'd also get overwhelmed easily.
Goku destroyed hits pocket dimension. Deflected and blocked his intangible attacks. Will also benefit from vegeta's feat of destroying the htc.
And has er resistance. He also physically touched and deflected a er attack. An attack that can also erase ghosts. Then there was his shaking the world of void feat.
Goku also implied he could defeat fusion zamasu after he merged with trunks timeline and was expanding his reach further. Goku was also able to physically hit and interact with timeline merged zamasu with a ki blast. Goku moved in stopped time as well. None of laws hax if it even lands would effect goku. Not with his feats and shown resistances.
If law trapped goku inside his room he'll doom himself because goku would just fire a ki blast or beam that'll cover the entire room up. Law will be caught in the aoe and would be unable to teleport it away. Goku destroyed a black hole too.
This is Saiyan Saga Goku.
@kajin_style: I know. Goku has shown those resistances though and has feats where he's resisted a bunch of hax. He'd benefit from resistances shown by other characters he's on par with and stronger than too. Law still gets blitzed.
He doesn't have the physicals to match this version of goku in any way and law would be dumb to try and confine goku in his room who could fire out beams and ki blasts with a blast radius that's moon+ level.
Law isn't matching blows with goku. He's not going to keep up with his speed. He's not capable of taking any hits from him. Any beam or ki blast ends him. And goku can spam those. Law's physical attacks would get tanked. Goku can fly too. Room would get destroyed along with law.
@kajin_style: I know. Goku has shown those resistances though and has feats where he's resisted a bunch of hax. He'd benefit from resistances shown by other characters he's on par with and stronger than too. Law still gets blitzed.
Evidence of these instances? Like where? Which Saga? Against who?
@kajin_style: goku destroying hits pocket dimension. Him physically interacting with hits intangible attacks and destroying them. He destroyed a black hole. Has resisted hakai. Physically touched a hakai ball and was completely fine afterwards he also deflected it. Vegito resisted transmutation.
And goku's a part of that fusion. Since vegeta was shown to destroy the hyperbolic time chamber goku would also be able to. Goku nullified jiren's energy ball. Resisted a poison toxin that could instantly kill someone.
Is able to use kk for an extended period of time. Kk damages the users body. Can no sell vital attacks. Is unable to have his vitals read. Has been in the upper atmosphere of space. Can resist love manip hax. Poison. Lava. Absolute zero. Can withstand black hole level gravity.
Can move in stopped time. Can see through illusions. Can break out of telekinesis and restraints. Is able to break a spell that crushes him with his own power. Can break out of being frozen. Would be able to break out of mind control. There might be more I'm missing.
Goku can hold his breathe underwater for a good while without any problems even after performing various actions. And he can get out of being imprisoned in water. Even without sight he can still find his target.
How he is not a brick...?
How he is not a brick...?
Goku having several energy attacks and martial arts techniques under his disposal would not classify him as a pure brick. People just mindlessly say one is a brick when they don't have hax, which Goku also gets much later.
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Energy projection with not durability negation and that depends on your stats, does not get you out from the brick category.
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Energy projection with not durability negation and that depends on your stats, does not get you out from the brick category.
Last time I remember, being an incredibly skilled martial artist while also having energy projection does not make one a true brick. Hulk and Juggernaut are examples of bricks. They're simple minded, are built like trucks and they just punch and kick. Goku is far more skilled than a true brick and has many different energy attacks.
Goku has no hax, thats my point.
Im no interested in debating what is brick for "definition"
For me a brick is just a character with no hax.
@omnihater: Goku's kamehameha despite being an energy attack has multiple variations to it. Goku has multiple techs. Kk, ui, kienzen, hakai, IT, barrier creation, telekinesis, solar flare, sb, clone creation, ki construct, god bind, gravity crush, various kiai techniques, soaring fist, goku has telepathy, he's able to sense ki, he has the mafuba, spirit ball attack, he can fire ki blasts from his finger tips, there's the dragon fist and like what someone else said goku's a martial artist. He used different fighting styles against broly. Knows the kermit style. Goku can canel out attacks too. And can copy techniques. He did the one inch punch against frieza.
Nothing of those things ignores durability, which is the main thing of the hax.
Also this version of goku is saiyan goku, which does not have hakai or UI.
@omnihater: the main thing of hax isn't to ignore durability. Goku's not a brick. And hakai ignores durability. So does god bind and goku's telekinesis and kienzen too. I also think the sb ignores durability against evil people. Mafuba ignores durability. And I know his saiyan saga self doesn't. I was talking about goku not being a brick though. You don't need hax to not be a brick but goku does have hax. Dragon fist ignores durability too.
@scythenger: Goku doesn't have hax besides Hakai and Mafuuba and he never even uses them. Telekinesis is the only type of hax he regularly uses and he's never even defeated anybody with it.
God Bind can't hold people stronger. Spirit Bomb can be pushed back by a significantly stronger character and Kienzan can be tanked by a character that is significantly stronger than the user. Such as SSJ2 Gohan and Jiren tanking the destructo disks from weaker characters. Dragon Fist doesn't ignore durability either its just a technique which is more amped in power compared to the users KI. Kaioken is an amp not hax, telepathy is not battle applicable if it can't affect the opponents mind. Whens the last time Goku used clones ? Not battle applicable. Sensing energy is not hax 😂😂😂. Barrier creation and Energy blasts are not Hax of any merit. Lol.
Thats just basic energy projection for defensive or offensive maneuvers
None of these techniques ignore durability. Super Goku only has a couple of mid tier hax
And this is Saiyan Saga Goku, who is WAY WEAKER and has 0 hax.
DBZ Goku is a flying brick that uses punches, kicks, and Ki Blasts to kill opponents. He uses old school raw force to get the job done. If he had a large speed advantage over law you can make the case of him winning but he doesn't
@scythenger said:
goku destroying hits pocket dimension. Him physically interacting with hits intangible attacks and destroying them. He destroyed a black hole. Has resisted hakai. Physically touched a hakai ball and was completely fine afterwards he also deflected it. Vegito resisted transmutation.
And goku's a part of that fusion. Since vegeta was shown to destroy the hyperbolic time chamber goku would also be able to. Goku nullified jiren's energy ball. Resisted a poison toxin that could instantly kill someone.
Can move in stopped time. Can see through illusions. Can break out of telekinesis and restraints. Is able to break a spell that crushes him with his own power. Can break out of being frozen. Would be able to break out of mind control. There might be more I'm missing.
You are still talking about future events. This is Saiyan Saga Goku, he doesn't know how to resist hax or break out of it with his Ki/god energy. You can't use events far in the future to explain that current Goku can resist hax.
On top of that you are forgetting the Buu arc, where the other DBZ fighters were unable to resist hax from Dabura, and Vegito got turned into a piece of candy despite being much stronger than Buu.
@scythenger said:
Is able to use kk for an extended period of time. Kk damages the users body. Can no sell vital attacks. Is unable to have his vitals read. Has been in the upper atmosphere of space. Can resist love manip hax. Poison. Lava. Absolute zero. Can withstand black hole level gravity.
Using Kaiken grants resistance to vital, attacks, wut? lol When did Goku resist Love manipulation?? Oh wait, are you meaning the idiots in the tournament. I don't know if that was actual love manipulation hax.
@scythenger said:
Goku can hold his breathe underwater for a good while without any problems even after performing various actions. And he can get out of being imprisoned in water. Even without sight he can still find his target.
This is just reaching.
Have you find one that lets him resist spartial hax and having his body cut to pieces. Don't worry, it won't be lethal, he'll just be a broken up lego toy with his limbs flopping around -- cause that's Law's broken Hax ability.
Goku blitz
This is actually a good argument.
I just don't know what is the general consensus of how fast Saiyan Saga Goku is.
@omnihater: the main thing of hax isn't to ignore durability. Goku's not a brick. And hakai ignores durability. So does god bind and goku's telekinesis and kienzen too. I also think the sb ignores durability against evil people. Mafuba ignores durability. And I know his saiyan saga self doesn't. I was talking about goku not being a brick though. You don't need hax to not be a brick but goku does have hax. Dragon fist ignores durability too.
When does Hakai, Dragon Fist and other ever ignore durability?
Imagine thinking Goku is a brick lol.
OT: Law blitzes and gamma knife destroys his insides. Sayian Saga Goku is only Relativistic+ to LS. Law is FTL+ scaling far above G2 Fishman Island Luffy.
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