L&T Thor vs MoM Wanda

Thunder God

Scarlet Witch

They start 30ft apart in Omnipotent City

Both Bloodlusted

Does Thor’s latest growth/advancement in his godly potential give him the win?

Or does Wanda still reign supreme at the moment?

Who wins?

Wanda still reigns supreme, and it’s not particularly close

Wanda, still a mismatch.

Wanda is on a whole other level.

@nassergrant19: you tried to@ me but it’s fost not frost lol

Oh my bad lol.

Anyway nothings changed Wanda still slaps she can react to him or tp him or says what arm lol

Both bloodlusted? A bloodlusted qanda most likely goes for tk.. All the time ,

She does a thanos move on him, but this time he calls stormbreaker to his hand and she dies in the shockwave.

Wanda stomps

Lol Love wanda but Thor certainly has a chance to win here for sure..So does Wanda depends on first shot

Yeah L&T didn't really change this that much. MoM showed us just how brutal Wanda can be at her "reasonable" levels so a bloodlusted one will definitely pack a punch ontop of all the hax she has.

@kfost_5:

"What blank? Lol" won't work. Thor has reality warping resistance. And won't stand still like a moron to allow it to happen:

And his AoE will one-shot her. And she can't catch him in TK, since she didn't do that in MoM, and required to stagger Thanos to do it first in ENDGAME.

Also, Storm-Breaker shrugged off a blast from the complete Infinity Gauntlet, without even slowing down. And easily penetrated Thanos's skins. Something that Wanda didn't even come close to. She made him scream in the same way Worthy Cap did with a bolt of lightning from the sky.

And you're acting as if he can't react to Wanda. Who's best speed feat to date is getting her shit pushed by Thanos when he was a brick with 0 versatility, and barely keeping up with him. And clearly struggling to continue doing so. Whiich is what made her use one of her Mist powerful blasts, that can break his Uru-sword. Which only managed to stagger him. Same Thanos that shrugged off her TK bolts while reaching for his sword.

While Stormbreaker casually goes deep in his chest from a throw.

OT: Wanda wins with hard-diff. They're both comparable in reaction and speed. Although, Thor is a bit superior in his reactions. LOL at people acting as if she's now a god-tier comic level Reality-Warper and Telepath. MoM hasn't done anything to make her suddenly a goddes that oneshots the verse and every other high-tier in it. She's still incompetent with her powers.

Wanda

L&T = prime = EG Thor

Wanda either turns him into a puppy or rips him apart with TK considering she lifted an entire mountain while he strained to lift a head.

And sure guys Thor definitely has reality warping resistance based on the Aether. Just like the grass the plastic poles the rocks and all the others that resisted being warped in the middle of Malekiths vortex

I would vote Wanda!

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Wanda claps.

Thor's magic got buffs in this movie which helps

However he gets versitility debuffs which makes him more threatened by telikinesis.

If you were to restrict there feats to these 2 movies I'd back Thor. But after LaT with Thor not really taking advantage of awakend mode or flight and all, Wanda beating Thanos is looking like a stronger argument (since Thor's fighting style is becoming more Thanos like). While Thanos is better then Thor in martial arts and strength I would still say Thor has the better durability because of the nivelidiir thing.

One thing Thor still has is shockwaves though. As warrior8411 said if she restrains him and he calls Stormbreaker that shockwave we saw would be a big threat to her.

Makeith can use aithier offensively as well and that’s what he did with Thor has he ever used it to warp living matter like Wanda has???

also he was venerable to aou Wanda to he’s gonna get crushed by her new and improved tp.

she has reacted to speedster to lasers to photons and everything else Maria was physically weaker than cm her potions were not visually any slower

Wanda has auto shields

she wins pretty comfortably

Not to mention she could just crush him thanos style

None can defeat mighty Thor who wields the thunder's roar!

No Sorcerer Supreme, and no Scarlet whore!

Wanda wins this she has way to many options to put Thor down and she won’t be messing around with him either she goes straight for the head if you will every since WV so it won’t be pretty

See now this is just uncalled for

Yea as soon as she knew black bolts power she took him out immediately she knows thors power she won’t hesitate

At least I chose to insult Wanda and not you, unlike some Wanda fans I met earlier! This is me being reasonable!

Wanda stomps. L&T didn’t have any impressive feat IMO nor do I think Thor grew in power except he did get better speed feats. Piece of shit, Taika Waititi shouldn’t touch another Thor film.

Both are uncalled for and one will get you banned

Can Wanda reality warp these mighty plastic tripods!

Wanda due to Reality warping and hax

Wanda decimates.

Lemme quote what I said in another thread:

Wanda can mind hax people, reality warp and disintegrate people, Has Probability Manipulation and has transmutation.

That’s not even to mention the cellular manipulation, her illusions, hex and auto shields, plus so much more.

Thor is toast and if anything she walks out slightly hurt? Oh wait… She crawled out of the mirror dimension, broke all her borns, and tore her body apart and didn’t go into shock..? Yeah she stomps.

Thor

@poedameronsbutt:

Wanda can mind hax people, reality warp and disintegrate people, Has Probability Manipulation and has transmutation.

1. Mind hax is the only thing that matters. Reality warping gets countered by resisting Aether Malekith who was gonna plunge the 9 realms into darkness.

2. She only disintegrated fodder Sorcerers who have human durability.

3. She does not have probability manipulation. That comic and Ultimate Wanda. Where did she even show that? Would've been useful when Chavez punched her multiple times, or when Strange used a spell to bring down water on her, or when she was hit by that cannon ball. Or when she was having her blasts absorbed by Zombie Strange's souls of the damned. Or when she was held in that tiny sphere.

4. Transmutation matters very little since she never uses it in MoM. And it's arguable whether it will affect Thor.

That’s not even to mention the cellular manipulation, her illusions, hex and auto shields, plus so much more.

What? No she does not have Cellular manipulation. You're thinking of the likes of Doctor Manhattan. Where are you even pulling these powers from? Her illusions require a Hex. And Thor won't stand still to allow her to summon one. And Auto-shields have been downright debunked and are damn-near featless. The only appear when Kamar Taj fodders are throwing arrows at her. She actually created a shield with her hands against the Ultron bots. And continued doing so throughout the movie. And even if they exist. They didn't help when she got tagged by that cannon ball and pushed back. Which affected her outfit.

Thor is toast and if anything she walks out slightly hurt? Oh wait… She crawled out of the mirror dimension, broke all her borns, and tore her body apart and didn’t go into shock..? Yeah she stomps.

No he is not. Most of the things you brought up are downright Fanfiction worthy. Wanda does not have probability or cellular manipulation. You made those up. And Auto-shields are damn near featless. And only appear once.

@greysentinel365 said:

Can Wanda reality warp these mighty plastic tripods!

Malekith wasn't actively attacking Thor or fighting him in that moment. He was busy sending Aether through the portals to plunge them into darkness.

@greysentinel365:

Wanda either turns him into a puppy or rips him apart with TK considering she lifted an entire mountain while he strained to lift a head.

1. No she did not lift a mountain. She only lifted the Wundagore Temple:

And that thing is definitely not mountain sized from what we see on the inside and out. It's building sized.

2. She couldn't rip Thanos apart from the start. She needed to stagger him first with a blast that broke his Uru-blade to do so. Which is possibly her most powerful blast to date. And ripping your opponent with TK from the start would've been quite useful against Zombie Strange when he appeared. Instead of throwing blasts, when she saw what the souls of the damned can do.

Makeith can use aithier offensively as well and that’s what he did with Thor has he ever used it to warp living matter like Wanda has???

also he was venerable to aou Wanda to he’s gonna get crushed by her new and improved tp.

she has reacted to speedster to lasers to photons and everything else Maria was physically weaker than cm her potions were not visually any slower

Wanda has auto shields

she wins pretty comfortably

1. There's no difference with how he sends it out to plunge the 9 realms into Darkness. And the same lowball can be used on Wanda's Hex via Agatha resisting it and keeping her memory for no reason, when Maria couldn't. Or Strange not being affected when he's inside. As well as Wanda not mindraping him when he's not actively "FORTIFYING HIS MIND!" for no reason. Malekith was Bloodlusted in his fight against Thor. There's no indication that the Aether worked differently when he sent it at Thor, than when he sent it through portals.

2. She did so to the Avengers back then via sneaking when they didn't know she was around. Nor were they ready. But I don't deny she can use TP on him. It's just that she doesn't use it in this movie until it's too late (Kamar-Taj after they cucked her) or when someone else starts with it (MoM Xavier).

3. She reacted to a speedster she created with her Hex. Maria's is not equal to Carol in either speed or energy projection. That has also been debunked due to the Wanda who beat the Illuminati being confirmed as heavily nerfed. And struggling badly with the 838 Wanda's body. Which held her back alot. And her performance in Telekinesis being below that of Civil War Wanda back it up.

Also Maria's photons don't have to be visually slower (they are) the fact that a badly nerfed Wanda reacted to them, debunks any scaling to Carol's. Cause the same Wanda got tagged by Carter, even after she reacted to her, and only brought up a shield to defend herself. As well as the fact as her getting blitzed by MoM Xavier who has been confirmed to not get any scaling or feats from Fox or 90s Xaviers. And has been shown to have slower Telepathy in comparison to even First Class Xavier. Who casually freezes people in an instance. And didn't react react some water coming down on her from Strange's slow, roof breaking spell. Same Strange who struggled against the slow Gargantos in the same movie. And does not scale to his IW version, due to him not putting even half the effort or using any of the spells he used against Thanos.

4. Auto-shields are non-existent and are damn near featless. They only appear once to block arrows. And didn't help Wanda from getting pushed back and her clothes affected by the cannon ball. She didn't use them against the Ultron bots. She actually summoned a shield to protect herself. And they never appear again in the movie.

5. No she does not win pretty comfortably. Most of the points you bring up are headcanon (Maria's blasts being equal to Carol specifically in speed.) Or rely on featless, unquantifiable things (Auto-Shields that only appear in one scene to block arrows, and didn't save her from getting pushed back by a metal cannon ball). TP is why Thor loses if Wanda actually uses it competently. This is far away from a comfortable W for her.

But I agree that Wanda wins.

I’m the OP but since you asked, Wanda would take it as L&T Thor seems to be in the process of going to a whole other level rather than simply being on that level. Makes sense, as this is only the second phase of his new trilogy.

Thor’s still learning how to fully tap into his Odin level god potential so until he does, Wanda wins.

What advancements exactly did Thor get? Was just the same old “swing with stormbreaker”. I don’t think he even used a proper lightning strike the whole movie, was expecting much more insane fighting scenes.

wanda can win like 42 different ways. the only way thor wins is if wanda literally stands still and let’s thor decapitate her which isn’t in character for wanda. so the fight begins with wanda warping away thors arms, legs, and eyes. then wanda follows that up by crushing him with telekinesis (which she does swiftly and easily). there’s no argument for thor, he’s not in her tier, and isn’t capable of fighting even thanos in a 1v1.

MoM wanda > WV wanda > EG wanda > Thanos >> Thor

thor is literally <<<<< prime scarlet witch. he is not a character that will or can ever be written to beat her

Thor will eventually win.

Wanda stomps, anyone who says otherwise is 100% lying to themselves.

Shields up like with Maria's Captain Marvel and then just mind control Thor or put him in an illusion again like in AoU, which she doesn't need to be close anymore to do giving how she did it to the Sword agents and that sorcerer in Kamar Taj.

Even Gorr felt so weak in TLAT.

The Odin Force!

Obviously not yet, most likely in Thor 5

Well, you know how 616 Thor can utilize the OF without actually being OF Thor? I'm thinking this is similar in the instances where he enchants Mjolnir, Zeus's thunderbolt

Or maybe it's just his own Thor Force idk