Zabuza Momochi, the Demon of the Hidden Mist met a little girl whose body is being inhabited by an evil spirit, Wraith, in a dining room. Wraith tried to trick Zabuza Momochi, the Demon of the Hidden Mist, into giving him his soul, but he refused. When Zabuza Momochi, the Demon of the Hidden Mist, went to leave he found his exit blocked and the evil spirit attacked him.
@pipxeroth: Here goes nothing.
From what I can tell, he should be able to use his considerable speed advantage to not be overwhelmed by her, he does have a counter to most of her abilities too.
Now, it'll depend on what exactly all those powers can do, I'm not 100% sure, but the main idea should be to get close and cut her up in CQC with the Wooden Sword.
Don't mind the edginess
Let's just get straight into it.
I think he should have a considerable speed advantage over Wraith. Sure, with Kirei's body she's a casual bullet timer, but so are Agents, and Neo as the One is laughably faster than them.
If my speed were primarily coming from my body you would be correct; however, and unfortunately for you, my body is largely irrelevant to Wraith's stats, due to the fact that I possess two different powers that boost my stats all the way up to the max of the scenario. When it comes to speed, though, I'll just be using one to prove my vast superiority in the area, and that would be Azuma's reality warping. Going off of your scaling above for speed, I'll be using the same type (mainly to prove a point), but just going further with it.
This is the Mad Hatter, a monster capable of effortlessly deflecting gunfire from several different directions simultaneously. I could also show it cutting a tank shell in half, but I think this is sufficient to show it's even with the Agent's that you're scaling off of.
This is the Mad Hatter fighting a monster called Giger. As you can see, Giger casually wipes the floor with him. The fight continues as seen above, with the Mad Hatter being unable to get a single hit in and completely relying on its regeneration, and Giger nonchalantly cutting him apart until he figures out how its regen works, at which point he promptly wins. This is almost the exact same feat you're using to prove Neo's speed. Moving on.
Giger possesses a power that allows him to create clones of equal power to him. So, basically, multiple people on the same speed level as you. For additional context to the feat I'm about to post, the "mother" and "father" clones create more child clones which allow Giger to have an army of beings on the same level as him.
Here, Azuma takes out 5 of these clones before they have a chance to move or process what's happening. I think this should speak for itself, but just in case you come out with "that was her throwing it so it doesn't really count" I'll show one more.
Here, she kills 13 of them simultaneously, with a single swing of an absolutely giant axe. The point I'm trying to make here is this: that speed advantage you thought you had? Yeah, you don't have it. Not by a long shot. I do have more speed feats to show if they're needed, but I really don't think they will be.
TP resistance is good and all, but they're useless here. The only TP I have is used for mind control which goes against the rules anyway, which only leaves my illusions, and my illusions can't be resisted. Why do I say something that's so obviously NLF? Because my illusions aren't really illusions. Allow me to explain.
Basically, as the above said. The illusions are real, to the point that they can do stuff like replace people's organs. Don't be too worried though, the real illusions are mainly used for defence so there's not too much to them that I plan on using offensively. Mainly because a lot of it goes against the rules. I'll show defences when I deem them necessary.
We both seem to be pretty much immune to electricity, so I guess these will cancel each other out. Even if I could argue that Misaka's higher level output would get through your natural resistances it wouldn't be the best use of time for either of us, so I suggest we just ignore the whole zappy part of our respective powersets.
However, Misaka isn't limited to just zappy power when it comes to her electromagnetism. She also has her railgun. The railgun lets her launch stuff at mach 3, and with enough force to go straight through a building, taking out 20 steel pillars in the process:
The location was right beside a certain building. If Shirai remembered correctly…on the 31st of August, there was an accident where some steel pillars collapsed. The steel pillars had been removed, and the remaining parts had been investigated thoroughly; now they were on the process of reconstruction.
...
There were no obstacles in front of Mikoto at all. There was clearly a small bus flipped beside her, but Mikoto didn’t intend to hide behind it. Based on common sense, facing several men armed with long range weapons with this attitude would be too daring.
But the Railgun’s power could defy any common sense.
A flash was emitted from Misaka Mikoto’s fingertip.
A small coin was shot out at 3 times the speed of sound, cutting the thick and heavy pillars. The armed men were terrified by the shrapnel that was falling due to the pillars being shot. The espers who were standing in a higher story were aiming at Mikoto’s head, but lost footing due to the pillars breaking and fell down. The railgun slammed into 20 steel pillars before slamming into another building, causing a crack in the wall before the energy was completely lost.
*A Certain Magical Index* Volume 8, Chapter 3, Part 3, Page 45
She did this with a coin which is pretty impressive; however, a coin isn't the only thing she can do it with:
A great noise burst out.
It was the sound of a large amount of iron sand moving up from the white beach around her.
The mass of black powder spread out around the flying fish with a radius of five meters. It was both a barricade to keep the tourists from getting close and her final key to turning the situation around. According to Mikoto’s will, the great amount of iron sand
attacked the flying fish from all sides and coated it 360 degrees around without leaving a single gap.
(If I don’t have a coin for my Railgun…)
Mikoto smiled.
Bluish-white sparks flew from her bangs indicating the presence of a high voltage electrical current.
(…then I’ll use you as my ammunition!!)
A tremendous roar rang out.
The giant flying fish that had been covering Mikoto was fired up into the sky.
The flying fish and the iron sand coating it was blown away. Of course, it was not a coin, so it did not reach three times the speed of sound, but that did not particularly matter. The giant flying fish flew away diagonally and was caught by gravity at an altitude of
about two hundred meters. It arced like a long throw in baseball, passed beyond the tourist area, and disappeared beyond the horizon.
*A Certain Scientific Railgun SS: Liberal Arts City* Chapter 1, pages 26-27
She can launch basically anything magnetic, and lucky for me, due to my reality warping and illusions, I can create basically anything. Do you see where I'm going with this? The two powers have been used to create cars, tanks, and a variety of other giant metallic things. It goes without saying that these are all going to be launched at you during the course of the fight, so you know, have fun with that. Hope you have some good defences.
Although Mob's TK is ridiculous, it's quite nerfed by the rules:
Actually, the host has allowed all anime feats, so while you're correct that I'm nerfed in the form of not having Mob's crazy manga feats and not being able to affect you directly, it's not nerfed as much as you think power-wise.
As I stated before, he'll pull earth from under the house and try to get outside to be able to get some rocks. With that, his earthbending should be able to cancel out her TK
I don't know where you think this fight is taking place, but there are no rocks around. The room we're in is in the centre of the labyrinth: the labyrinth that doesn't bend to Earthbending unless it feels like it. You're not chucking up any rocks in this fight; however, due to my TK and ability to create literally anything I want too, I'll be chucking basically everything at you. This is how fast Mob can move things around with his TK. Obviously, I can't use TK directly, but if I summon a bunch of swords, or pots, or anything really, the room will be filled with countless stuff flying around at this speed, which on top of the odd flying tank and my own physical prowess, will give you an awful, awful lot to deal with.
My TK also massively amps my stats, most notably strength and durability, but I'll talk about those a little later on.
He's got Fox Wolverine's regen, which although not as good as 616, it's still pretty good.
Pretty good, sure, but the feats you showed were high ends. Whilst you could recover from wounds like the above, you wouldn't exactly be ignoring them to continue fighting. It may only take one or two seconds for you to recover from injuries like that, but with all the stuff flying at you simultaneously those few seconds where you're focusing on recovering are going to cost you immensely. In this fight, you don't have the luxury of waiting to recover from your injuries before another attack comes flying.
With Iihiko's Irreversible Destruction, any damage dealt by me will be impossible to heal.
Then it's a good job that you have very few ways to actually hurt me.
So what I'm seeing from this argument isn't that the wooden sword could hit me if I'm intangible (for the sake of transparency here's the proof that I can turn intangible at will), but that nothing in your kit apart from the sword can. Or, in other words, it's impossible for you to harm me at range as I can phase through whatever you throw at me.
Simply put, I have a multitude of ways of harming you as detailed in this post, but you have all of one method available to harm me. I'll leave it at that.
I'll only show feats for piercing durability as it seems like the sword is your only hope here (even though it's a wooden sword I'm going to assume it's piercing. If it's blunt force, don't worry, I have feats for that as well that I'll show if that is the case). Mob's psychic barrier allows for feats like this, where the dude with the sword was previously shown capable of stuff like this with apparent ease. Honestly, I doubt you have the feats to even break through my barriers, which you would need too to even have a hope of harming me. Unfortunately, though, my bodies durability to piercing attacks is superior to my TK shields.
Here, Azuma takes several bloodlusted attacks from a character and only ends up with minor cuts at the end of it. For context:
This is what the dude can do. I don't really think I need to add much more here.
You need to bring out some damn good piercing feats if you want to get past my barrier, and then you need to bring out even better ones if you want to actually hurt me. Due to Mob and Azuma's powers, I am at the very top of the scenario limits when it comes to stats, and since your only means of hurting me comes from CQC, well, let's just say that you're not gonna have a good time of it.
I'll only show one feat, because as far as I'm aware that's all I'll need to easily overpower you. Going up and coming down. Honestly, from what I've seen of your first post, I could just blitz you, grab you by the throat, shove you into a wall at full strength and one shot you that way. Neo's body lacks the durability feats to contend with someone who's physicals are right on the limit, and most of your powers are as good as nullified in this fight (even not taking intangibility into account electromagnetism is useless due to my own immunity, and Earthbending is useless due to fighting in the labyrinth).
I have the advantage by an absolutely massive extent when it comes to range, considering I can launch tanks at you as well as an almost endless amount of weapons due to reality warping and illusions whilst you have no means of harming me. Also, let's not forget that I can throw weapons fast enough to take out people on your level of speed before they can react. On top of this, I also have the advantage in CQC, as even though the wounds you would deal wouldn't heal, going off of your first post I can straight up ignore your attacks as they wouldn't even be enough to get through my barrier, let alone my actual durability.
I know that I've come across as quite cocky here, but if we're going to be real for a second: I hope you've been saving your big feats because you sort of need them right now.
You should have just accepted my offer, mate
So, lets take a look at what we've got now:
So, the plan should remain mostly the same. Find some earth to throw around and keep you busy, while evading your long ranged attacks. His reaction speed should keep him unharmed for most of the fight, and even wounds can be healed quite fast. Cap's shield can block pretty much everything, and all that together should allow him to get in CQC range at some point.
There, his combat speed should be able to overwhelm you, and the Wooden Sword can kill ya. Seeing how cocky you are now, I'd say she would be quite sure that her intangibility + shields should keep her alive. That'll be her doom, the swords will cut her up, and she'll die even if the attack isn't immediately lethal. Another good stuff from the Wooden Sword, is that a single cut will drain all your energy after some time:
“The sword… it can absorb spiritual energy?” Meng Hao was shocked. After a moment, he slapped his bag of holding and produced a Spirit Stone. After placing it next to the sword, he watched as the Spirit Stone slowly grew dark over the space of about ten breaths .
He picked the Spirit Stone back up, feeling a bit sad at the loss of a Spirit Stone, but excited at the same time.
“This sword… it truly is a great treasure.” He gazed at the sword with a look of determination, then slowly drew it across one of his fingers. With ease, it sliced open a cut. Meng Hao focused on his Cultivation base. Sure enough, he felt the spiritual energy in his body being sucked out continuously through the cut.
He covered his finger, excitement clear in his eyes. Within moments, the wound had healed, and Meng Hao gazed at the sword, laughing foolishly.
“If I used this sword when battling a magic-user, all I would need to do is cut them, and their spiritual energy would be drained away and I could trample over them. Too bad I only have one. If I had two, or ten, or a hundred, then I could drain my opponent’s spiritual energy even faster. How astonishing would that be…?” An image appeared in his mind of himself wielding a hundred wooden swords, all stabbing into Wang Tengfei’s body.
ISSTH - Chapter 25
That + the impossibility of healing and blood loss should mess her up. Now, he'll be aiming to cut her in half or decapitate, so it's not that necessary.
Also, Neo's durability is actually quite decent. I had forgotten about this feat:
No sells a whole floor of a building blowing up with him inside.
I don't want to drag this too much, so you can make your post and we head to voting. If there's something I really need to clarify I can make a small quick one. I did rely a little too much on "you're breaking the rules", but considering how stacked you made your character, so is life. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's the op of the sign-up thread, you can't give yourself powers via reality warping. That ability of yours is reality warping, and amping your speed to such a degree is undoubtedly giving you super-speed, far beyond what your body can achieve, which is a power, just ask Flash.
Nice selective reading my dude.
- No amping yourself past the top tier body limits
This is the limit when it comes to using powers for amping stats (for the readers, all of the build limits are here). Using a little bit of logic here, amping yourself is allowed, due to the restriction placed on such amps being "over the limits of the body" instead of being a full-on ban. On top of this, Prime has been aware of my intent to amp my stats since day one of the sign-ups and has not said it is a banned strategy. "No giving powers" refers to things like using the reality warping to give me precognition, or fire manipulation, or anything else along those lines. Stat amping is not included in this, and therefore my strength, durability, speed, etc. are all fine and at the limits of a 700 point body or the maximum that I am allowed to amp.
So yes, regarding stats I have a ridiculous advantage over you.
Since this covers all my stats, I won't look at other times you pull this card but note that it also works for Mob's TK. Mob is a below average middle schooler stat wise. All of his strength, speed, endurance, etc., comes directly from him using TK on himself, which is, again, a stat amp. Stat amps are not banned by the rules, and thus, the feats that use them are allowed. Simple.
So, it's just reality warping then? It's called an illusion, but it's actually supposed to be reality warping for the scenario? But since it's grouped with TP, seems to me that the idea is just to be a form of illusion, especially since the TP doesn't seem to serve any other purpose. Is it a Matrix style "your mind makes it real" thing? If so, that shouldn't work that well, for obvious reasons.
Regardless though, from what I've read on the wikis, his illusions seem to be mental based, which is also not allowed:
- Illusions/Holograms (Cannot be mental based, must be able to tell aren't real with at least one sense)
In the wiki:
*Wiki quote*
First of all, using wikis isn't the best way to form an argument, because it doesn't give you the full picture and they're usually not the best. Past this, Rokudo's illusions do start at the level of "they're only real if you think you're real," but over the course of the series, he reaches the point where this is no longer the case, and his illusions are by all intents and purposes, real. His explanation of this is where this scan comes from. So, yeah, you'd be better off chucking them under the category of reality warping if it makes it easier to understand that the illusions I can make are so potent that they exist in reality.
Mach 3 coins surely are fast, but considering that Neo can effortlessly blitz casual bullet timers, he shouldn't have trouble dodging or blocking it with Cap's shield (the thing takes Thor's hits without a scratch, the coins shouldn't be a problem).
Cars and tanks are surely bigger, but they're also way heavier than a coin. While you can launch a small object at mach 3, bigger things should move considerably slower, allowing Zabuza to just jump out of the way without issues.
So, you're going to dodge the coins, and the flying tanks, and all the other countless stuff in the room and that I create flying at you from every angle, simultaneously, with a shield? Even if we assume you can track and react to every single object at once, you've seen the room that we're fighting in (this one), so you should know that with the amount of stuff flying around, there's going to be very little room to dodge. Heck, you'd be hard pressed to fit the flying tank in there on its own, let alone adding on all the other stuff.
Not even mentioning that Mach 3 is faster than the bullets the agents dodged (handguns are typically only Mach 1), and fighting a bullet timer doesn't inherently mean you share the same level of reactions as one.
Anime Mob's best feats are way over 20 tons, and by the rules you can't do anything beyond that. That's quite a nerf.
You saw the scan of Cassius saying that anime Mob is perfectly on the limits, right? I have access to all of his anime feats whether you like it or not.
I've bent inside the labyrinth before with no issues, at the forest and inside the castle, both inside the labyrinth, from what I can tell, just like this place. Part of the labytinth, but not part of the tunnels. Don't see why I could bend there but can't bend now.
Cassius gave no info on this room, so I'm just assuming it's something like the castle in the forest. There should be earth under the wooden floor, and also outside the building, which I should be able to access through those huge ass windows.
We're in the middle of the labyrinth:
The room only has windows because Cassius couldn't find a fitting image that didn't have any. If you need too, you can just imagine that the room looks the way it does because of my illusions.
On top of this, you can't interact with the labyrinth if it doesn't want you too. This can be seen in posts like this, this, and this. However, Wraith's interactions with the labyrinth look like this. The labyrinth plays favourites with who it allows to interact with it, and Wraith is the favourite here, and by an awful long way. To put it simply, if I don't want you throwing chunks of the labyrinth at me, you're not going to be. In other words, you're not bending anything here.
With earth at my disposal, I can match your TK objects in power and we can keep throwing things at each other for a while.
Even if we assume that you somehow can bend the labyrinth and fight me with it, you can't match my TK. See, bending isn't instant: it takes movement to do. This movement can be seen in the posts that you use to demonstrate your abilities (here and here being just two examples) and even though it doesn't seem like much, it's pretty damning. You see, you plan to do flips and stuff to fling Earth at me, while you're already occupied with dodging Mach 3 projectiles, flying tanks, and hundreds of other items in the room flying at you simultaneously. Do you see the problem with this? You're not going too have the time to bend, and even if you somehow did, I can just crush the rocks with a thought.
As far as I'm concerned, your Earthbending is utterly useless due to the location of the fight, but even if that weren't the case you still wouldn't have a chance to use it, and even if that weren't the case, I'd get rid of them with a thought. So, Earthbending is useless for you on three different levels.
See, the Wooden Sword is absurdly sharp. Here, it pierced the tail of the Rain Flying Dragon
Now, that puts him easily as a high tier in South Heaven, the planet they're in. It's a little complicated, but being equal to the heavens puts him way beyond Spirit Severing Cultivators, such as Lord Revelation. To give you an idea how strong the guy is
Creates a gigantic black hand that could flatten mountains in an area tens of thousands of kilometers wide. Mind you, Earth's circunference is only 40.075 km, and that was all inside a very small country on their planet. Apparently Xianxia planets are the size of stars or something. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The Flying Rain-Dragon is at least as strong as that, likely much more powerful. If he's really equal to the Heavens, then we're looking at planet level stuff (in relation to the size of their planet of course)
Piercing even a little bit of its tail should be enough to prove that it can cut you up quite a bit. Clean in half, most likely.
So basically, you're scaling something with (apparently) no durability feats to planetary durability based on someone else having high attack potency (which has nothing to do with durability btw), a statement that could very easily have been hyperbolic, and another statement of some random dude saying "trust me bruh this thing could totally cut it"? And your sword can't kill this thing, but just barely cut it? You'll have to forgive me for not being entirely convinced of this things potency. Either way though, I may as well cover my ass a little bit by bringing out some illusionary shields.
I can summon huge ass shields at will that can hold up to Tsuna's punches. Before this, Tsuna's blasts (which are weaker than the punches here to a large extent) could do stuff like this, yet Mukuro's shields hold. Unfortunately, they can't do much apart from just sort of sitting around and being really hard, but that's all I need them to do. Since I can make these at the drop of a hat, I always have methods of putting distance between us (which wouldn't be too difficult considering my speed advantage on top of this), meaning that even if you could cut me up with the sword, you'd never get a chance too.
That's not super strength though, is it? It's telekenisis, applied in melee, but still telekenisis, which you are not allowed to use directly on opponents or their gear, so that's kind of useless if you want to punch me with it.
I did say that since I can use TK to augment my strength that I wouldn't address it later on, but I'm not stupid enough to not cover my bases on the off chance that a reader does not agree. So, here's a feat without TK augmentation.
This on its own is all I need to massively overpower Zabuza, especially so considering that he didn't show any strength feats of his own.
To be succinct, I beat out Zabuza in every single area in this matchup. Let's go over it:
I could go on, but you get the point. The only real way I could go down is if Zabuza manages to get in close and I just decide to not counter at all, stand perfectly still and try to face tank his hits. I may be acting cockily, but I'm not that cocky. This is evident as in my first post I stated that I might as well blitz and one shot my opponent. I'm confident in my abilities to win, but not to the point where I'm not putting in any effort. In this fight, I'm not holding anything back, especially so considering Zabuza had pissed off Wraith moments before this fight took place.
That should be about it. @cassius_ryder you're fine to open votes now unless Jucas wants to clarify anything.
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