LA CaV: Composite Daredevil / Batman (Subline) vs Green Arrow (RBT)

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To start off we have his feats from the BvS training montage, where he is shown doing multiple reps (presumably) with extremely high weights.

Just to establish the plates used in this scene, a cut showed that a single plate was 45lbs and according to Google, an olympic barbell weights 44lbs, so these are the figures we'll use for each feat.

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1. Starting off with the best feat of the montage, we see him (at the end of the session) drop a bar with a total of 16 plates on it. Using the weights previously listed the total comes to 764lbs or 347kg.

2. Bruce is also seen doing multiple reps of pull ups with 135lbs worth of weight attached to him, adding on Bruce's weight of 210lbs the total comes to 345lbs.

3. We see Bruce push a barrel (sort of?) with 8 plates visible on top, and additionally the bottom weight we see seems to be a good bit above the ground, so there was presumable more, and there was also the added weight of the chains. Ignoring all of this the plates alone weight a total 360lbs, adding on the chains would add on a lot of extra weight and that's still ignoring the fact we don't actually see how much he pushes.

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Moving on to Bruce's more impressive feats, and that is via use of scaling.

Parademon Scaling:

Here we see Batman wrestle with an enraged Parademon mid air, never losing his grip, and these Parademons are not to be under-estimated they can straight up rip metal turrets off the Batmobile and toss them like play toys.

And another feat which isn't through Parademons, but is still really impressive, against Firefly Batman rips apart his Metal Suit with his bare hands.

I'll wait till later posts to provide more feats such as ragdoll feats as I feel they will be more appropriate in counter.

To start off just to get an idea of how hard my character can actually hit we'll use his ragdolling feats:

1. Batman punches a dude and sends him 20 feet away against his own momentum.

2. Batman sends a man spinning in mid air with a kick.

3. Bats flips a man on his head with a punch.

My character has also showed good striking against actual materials, causing significant damage to them:

1. Matt breaks a metal lock with a kick.

2. Matt breaks a windshield with a knee strike.

3. Matt sends Bakuto flying into a bunch of cinder blocks hard enough to shatter a bunch of them.

Moving on arguably the best feat, Batman (while having bad leverage) is able to kick a Parademon around 15 feet away hard enough to knock over a metal pipe. The feat is really quite impressive in itself even without considering the fact that this was all part of Batman's kick up from bad positioning.

Starting off we have a description of Batman's Armor from Batman v Superman, this is taken straight from the guidebook, it states:

Today's Batsuit is reinforced with the latest in bullet-proof fabrics and lightweight plates

These plates are admittedly not everywhere but are on the main parts of the suit such as the abdominal area, with this suit Batman has displayed amazing durability, as we've seen:

• Gets slammed and ragdolled by Parademons, takes it with little damage, and we've already established how incredibly strong Parademons are.
• Tanks a point blank explosion (granted he used his fireproof cape he still took a lot of the concussive force).
• Batman also remained conscious after getting slapped 30 feet by Superman, now of course Superman wasn't using full force and was likely holding back, so all we can assume is that the hit was just powerful enough to send him 30 feet, and hard enough to cripple the side of a car. Same hit dislocated his shoulder, and when Wonder Woman snapped it back in place, Bruce merely grunts and treats the pain like nothing.
• Point blank bullet rounds do pretty much nothing to Bruce's cowl.

Now what makes my character's durability even more impressive is that the suit being used here is a composite suit, that includes Batman's Justice League Armor, same Armor which is considerably more protective than Batman's BvS Suit, and even in that Suit, Bruce was comparably durable to Oliver.

Michael Wilkinson, who worked on Costume Design in Justice League commented about Batman's Tactical Suit, briefly:

Batman faces a challenge of even higher intensity in this film, so we wanted to give him what we call a ‘tactical suit’ for high level battle for when things are becoming more serious and deadly. This suit is has exterior layers of armor and extra details and it has a different cowl. He has additional eye protection.

From this we can see that the Tactical Suit is quite clearly a lot more protective than the regular suit, and was specifically built to take hits from supernatural threats, with this suit Bruce should be able to take shots from Oliver without huge issue.

Even from the design itself we can see the thick layers of exterior Armor on the suit, with what appears to be thick metal padding on most parts of the suit.

Matt has consistently reacted to arrows (often multiple at once), as we've seen:

• Matt deflects an arrow mid air.
• Catches an arrow that arrives from out of nowhere.
• Deflects multiple arrows fired simultaneously by 3 archers.
• Flips around gunfire, again and again.
• Evades gunfire from the Punisher, who is fast enough to gun down 6 Bounty Hunters in 2 seconds before they can raise their firearms, and accurate enough to shoot a molotov in a dude's hand from a decent distance away.

I don't believe speed isn't going to be much of a factor in this fight, considering that Matt has already kept up with and had the upper hand against 2 bullet timers (Black Sky and Iron Fist).

Here we have his fight against Black Sky, throughout the 30 seconds Black Sky does not land a single hit whereas Matt lands multiple, and is only ultimately defeated due to her vastly superior striking power, and to make it even better Black Sky had a sword, which offers great reach and damage output.

Black Sky herself is no slouch, she was able to defeat 10 Armed Hand Ninjas while starting off Unarmed, and she took them all down in under 10 seconds, a single Hand Ninja was capable of taking out 2 cops with no difficulty, which makes it even better considering these aren't just any generic fodder.

Black Sky was also able to dominate Iron Fist for the majority of their fight, and Danny is quite impressive himself, he dropped 10 Hand Operatives in 20 seconds and also fought off Hand Students from every direction while having an injured leg.

And to establish this as consistent Matt also had a clear upper hand when he actually fought Danny himself, Matt lands around 8-9 hits compared to Danny's 2-3.

I believe this is the only scaling I will need for skill but if more is necessary then I'll use more.

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