Kylo Ren vs Season 7 Maul (Force fight only)
By feats I’m giving it to Maul. The Hyperdrive Feat was insane. Not to mention when he completely submits to the dark side he has the brutes strength to beat a Wampa to death and hold his own for a brief time against Sidious.
Kylo imo, his force feat with the jedi temple ruins in the rise of kylo ren was pretty crazy.
Edit: Here it is for anyone curious
Kylo imo, his force feat with the jedi temple ruins in the rise of kylo ren was pretty crazy.
It isn't geologically speaking an ancient temple isn't going to be in very good condition where as state of the art Capital ship engines the size of buildings are going to be in top shape.
Steel/Durasteel>>>>>>Stone too
Mauls feat was better in every way.
@ezra_: The temple is literally carved into the rock I think its pretty durable. The size of those two jedi statues looks to be similar in size to.
@incursion2: Again are you aware that ancient temples are susceptible to the weather of the environment which can cause internal deterioration and form internal cracks that make them more susceptible to applied pressures?
It's basically glorifying someone destroying the ancient walls of China.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Elphrona
He didn't even destroy the temple himself he destroyed the statutes and caused the rest to cave in from the weight of the statues.
It's even less impressive since he's not crushing the temple as you made it out to be, instead he's just causing a chain reaction on statutes HUNDREDS at the bare minimum of years old.
Which is not as impressive as Maul ripping four building sized military generators with ease.
Edit: Before you say anything else look at the link it shows the image of cracks and broken pieces of the statutes which means they were already compromised.
@ezra_: Even if it is cracked its still rock, it is still impressive given the size of the statues. He did not even struggle on panel. Im not saying Mauls feat is not impressive, but I believe Kylos "mighty skywalker blood" would give him the win.
The Venator feat is at bare minimum roughly comparable to the temple busting(imo it's more impressive but it doesn't matter). And with comparable power, I just think Maul is a plainly more talented and experienced Force wielder, having a lot of experience fighting people near his tier while Kylo either fodderizes people or doesn't use the Force when he should.
This fight could go either way. Kylo probably has a bit of a power edge, but Maul has the skill edge.
Really close fight probably going either way now that maul got a pretty impressive new feat. Considering that the temple feat was done by a Padawan kylo before any of his ren training or training with snoke he’ll probably get more stuff superior to that. We already know he had the shielding to withstand the crash of a star destroyer completely unharmed so his potential for feats is there.
Kylo and Rey receive boost in Force when they are together due to Dyad in the Force ... in other words, Kylo's feats in the last two movies are PIS... so it’s very difficult to defend Kylo when his only relevant feat is to knock down large statues
There is nothing to compare skill in the duel, Maul stomp
Maul wins
Rey has the ability to connect with the power of other Force users, that's how she defeated Sidious, Rey is a PIS with a pair of tits, she and Kylo have a special connection
We don't know the condition of the temple it looked very old, if that temple was whole then it would be a great feat
Rey has the ability to connect with the power of other Force users, that's how she defeated Sidious, Rey is a PIS with a pair of tits, she and Kylo have a special connection
We don't know the condition of the temple it looked very old, if that temple was whole then it would be a great feat
It wasn't whole it was run down, the statues were cracked to the point that half the lightsaber part was missing from one of them.
His feat isn't temple busting either he just collapsed the unstable statues on top of it and caused a chain reaction.
@eredin12: I never claimed that Superman is mountain level. I’m just someone who’s lurked for a while to familiarize myself with this site and has now created an account so I can participate. I’ve never debated you or even mentioned you before a day ago.
I’ve been browsing this site for a while, and I’ve seen you constantly lowball the DCRU and wank the MCU way out of proportion, even when presented with measurable, verifiable arguments. You may have an opinion, but in the words of Harlan Ellison, “You are not entitled to your opinion. You are entitled to your informed opinion. No one is entitled to be ignorant.” If we can’t agree here, then I don’t want to throw away any more of my time pointlessly arguing with you. I'm just going to ignore and block you now.
@eredin12: I don't care about what do you think. And yeah, Superman no sold busting a part of it. It doesn't mean he's mountain level. You know we're never gonna see eye to eye though, right? We've debated nearly all of these several times in the past days, I feel like It's just better to block and ignore each other. No offense.
Maul, even is Kylo is strong in the force I don't see why put him in the level of Maul especially with his limited feats, also Maul proved to have a better control and a lot more experience.
Still Kylo
How so? When has he ever done anything as impressive as Maul's hyperdrive feat?
Boi, that's really good, Kylo stomps.
Boi, that's really good, Kylo stomps.
Not really, the temple Kylo collapsed was thousands of years old, ever seen what's left of most Roman ruins? For all we know at normal human could have made one of those statues fall with a kick.
WHAT? No.
With that logic they should have collapsed a long time ago, the fact that they stood for millenia is only a testament of their durability, as it is the case with most ancient monuments in real life.
Can you crumble the most Ancient Pyramid from Egypt with a kick? It's 4700 years old, if you are right you should be able to do it.
Can you destroy this with a kick?
Do it.
- Maul have better feats in raw power
- Maul have superior mastery and experience
- Maul have the body-speed advantage so he will be capable to use and display faster the force than Kylo (not sure if this is included tbh)
Maul take this and this is not really a close fight.
@daddyprometheus: Yes, some structures have aged better than others. Kylo's feat is still unquantifiable because we don't know how much time weakened that temple.
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