Kylo Ren vs Obi, Anakin, Luke.

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Kylo Ren just after he was shot with an explosive in the stomach that destroyed a boulder and knocked a few storm troopers up.

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  • Anakin straight after he just lost his arm,
  • Obi after he got a knick in the arm and leg
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  • Luke straight after he lost his hand
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Well I seem to get the reaction that I expected. Quite a few people have dismissed this thread as stupid. Quite a few people in several threads have completely thrown Kylo Ren as a fodder fighter even though they" acknowledge" his injuries because he lost two 2 people.

So we have set the standard of Kylo Ren based off his injuries.

So i pitted him against Jedis straight after they suffered their movie injuries. Straight after they suffered less off an injury and noone has the balls to admit what is painstakingly obvious. Kylo's feat to fight those 2 are infact one of the strongest feats of resilience in the Star Wars movie. Worse yet, noone has the balls to debate what is now equalized terms and will resort to calling this thread stupid.

The Kylo hate is strong in this board.

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Team wins

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This is stupid.

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@combatt: Ya think so? Obi is too incapacitated to stand after receiving a few knicks, Anakin is practically knocked out for the rest of the fight and Luke can't barely even hold himself up.

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Kylo got beat by Ray when she's had no training. Annie, Obi, and Luke are all well trained in the force. Kylo stands no chance

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AND still better duelists than him.

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Lol

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@gambit474 said:

Kylo stands no chance

Poor choice of words since in this scenario, even though Kylo has the more grevious and hindering injury, was the only one who could actually stand.

@tragic_johnson:

You are right, Obi has shown his ability to be one of the better duelists. But then again. He did get a cut on the arm and leg. So he's practically done for the fight.

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@combatt Oh cause the team has literally no chance despite having less injuries?

Thought so.

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Well I seem to get the reaction that I expected. Quite a few people have dismissed this thread as stupid ( @combatt@helixflameyt@darthaznable )but is it? I expect these people to also find kylo ren to be weak.

Quite a few people in several threads have completely thrown Kylo Ren as a fodder fighter even though they" acknowledge" his injuries because he lost two 2 people.

So we have set the standard of Kylo Ren based off his injuries.

So i pitted him against Jedis straight after they suffered their movie injuries. Straight after they suffered less off an injury and noone has the balls to admit what is painstakingly obvious. Kylo's feat to fight those 2 are infact one of the strongest feats of resilience in the Star Wars movie. Worse yet, noone has the balls to debate what is now equalized terms and will resort to calling this thread stupid.

The Kylo hate is strong in this board.

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Kylo lost to 2 almost-fodders, that's why he's regarded as weak...

now you pit him up against 3 injured somewhat seasoned jedis?

the 3 do not need to take out their lightsabers, all they have to do is keep throwing ren around with the force like a ragdoll

until he bleeds to death

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@combatt: except they won't and they can't.

Case and Point = exactly what happened after they got injured with far less.
Anakin's pretty much out of commission, albeit his injury is the most severe out of the 3.
Luke physically struggles to hold himself up on a pole after having his hand lobbed off.
Obiwan completely incapacitated after having 2 scratches to the arm and leg.

And after having his insides blown up by an explosion akin to a grenade. Kylo Ren can still fight 2 people.

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#21  Edited By Combatt

Ah, so what you're saying is... the fighters are just...

Injured Kylo Ren vs Injured Luke Skywalker.

Alright, you take away luke out of that situation where he's struggling to hold on to a pole

Luke still wins

and your battle is still stupid.

Point not taken, Kylo Ren still sucks, a crybaby and weak... lost to newbie.

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@soaringturkeys: You're basically no better than the other threads. You don't like their opinions/spite threads so you make a thread so that Kylo can win. There is no purpose to this thread at all.

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#23  Edited By micah007123
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@prophetvivec36: Poison? Why exactly? You standardise Kylos ability based off his injury. So I equalised the terms by giving injury to the jedis.

And you call this poison because it reveals what some comicvine users are like? All veneer and no substance to actually think about characters?

Sure. I'll take poison as a compliment.

@darthaznable:

I made a thread exactly with the same conditions that Kylo Ren faced. This thread follows exactly the same format most battle threads in this site go off.

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@soaringturkeys: You're basically no better than the other threads. You don't like their opinions/spite threads so you make a thread so that Kylo can win. There is no purpose to this thread at all.

He's trying to make Kylo win, but Kylo still loses... One-Handed luke and Conscious Obi still beats Kylo.

You might as well put Kylo Ren against a normal Stormtrooper... or Han Solo... then he could win.

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@combatt: ^ why don't you try and actually debate against me. Again ill ask you. what proof do you have that with less of an injury, Obi and Luke can do anything.

If you actually read who you are trying to run behind. He's completely against your opinion.

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Luke with one hand seems more of a capable duelist than Ren

Obiwan isn't unconscious, he can still use the force and back up luke...

there ya go... Ren loses.

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@combatt: Have you even seen the movie?

Obiwan got his leg and arm scratched so Anakin fought Palpatine by himself?

Where's the force back up on anakin?

And Luke barely had enough strength to even hold himself up on that hanger.

try again.

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#30  Edited By Combatt

so your basically just having luke fight ren

ok

luke wins over ren who is an incapable duelist

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@combatt said:

so your basically just having luke fight ren

ok

luke wins over ren who is an incapable duelist

You mean the Luke who can't hold himself up on a hanger? Who physically can't even stop himself from sliding down and barely has the means to control his body after having a little injury.and you still think Kylo is being beaten? wow. Biased.

No i'm having 3 jedis with injuries less severe and less incapacitating vs Kylo Ren at the end of the movie. It's not that difficult a concept to grasp.

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Hahahahaha, I like this

The anti-Kylo bias is strong, and apparently keeping plenty of people from realizing what his point is

Obi Wan, Anakin, and Luke were all incapacitated by those injuries. Kylo suffered a worse injury, and wasn't incapacitated. That's the point.

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@combatt: before you brag on and jump on the bandwagon of the people who are calling this thread stupid. That very person you quoted literally said that Kylo Ren would win this.

So try and keep to the same side of the argument.

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@combatt said:

uh duh

he was hanging on top of something with one hand while his dick dad was tormenting him.

put him on even ground, then of course he most likely looks like he'll chop up ren

unless you're putting luke against ren without a lightsaber and still hanging on the ledge with just one hand

then no shit ren wins

oh please, don't be that stupid

you're putting ren against two really incapacitated jedis and 1 handed jedi.

people are calling this thread stupid, because it is stupid... you just want ren to really win.

He's pointing out people's bias against Kylo Ren. Obi Wan and Anakin were all incapacitated by injuries less than what Ren suffered (Luke was arguably incapacitated), and yet people don't acknowledge the resilience Ren showed by continuing to fight

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ken still loses to one-handed luke

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@arcus: exactly!

Even in the top page right now there is a thread with King Bradley. And one of the feats that are being used is his defeat at the hands of an inferior fighter. But instead of being called a noob, he's rightfully being praised as a great fighter for being able to keep fighting against severe injuries.

And here we have Jedis with less of an injury fight Kylo with a critical wound.

This equalises the battlefield to the same treatement Kylo is getting and I'm getting called stupid and poison?

The anti-kylo bias is indeed strong.

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@combatt said:

ken still loses to one-handed luke

Luke did nothing to show he was capable of still fighting effectively after his injury

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one-handed luke still wins over injured ren in a light saber duel

if you re-watch... luke wasn't really struggling on the pole, he was trying to get away from Lord Vader...

and then he jumped off it, not accidentally fell... jumped on purpose.

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@combatt said:

one-handed luke still wins over injured ren in a light saber duel

if you re-watch... luke wasn't really struggling on the pole, he was trying to get away from Lord Vader...

and then he jumped off it, not accidentally fell... jumped on purpose.

And what indicates he would still be able to fight? What shows that he'd be in any shape to use a lightsaber, or counter Kylo's force powers?

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if injured kylo ren lost to 2 almost-fodder opponents.. then how is ren going to fight a one-handed luke?

the indication is... ren lost to 2 almost-fodder opponents... that's the indication.

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@combatt said:

if injured kylo ren lost to 2 almost-fodder opponents.. then how is ren going to fight a one-handed luke?

the indication is... ren lost to 2 almost-fodder opponents... that's the indication.

And who did Luke beat when injured? What did Luke do to show he was better when injured?

Kylo Ren showed he was still capable of fighting. Can we say the same about Luke?

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injured luke > than rey or finn

rey and finn > injured ren

injured luke > injured ren

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#44  Edited By Waking_Dreamer

Kylo Ren takes the win.

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@combatt said:

injured luke > than rey or finn

rey and finn > injured ren

injured luke > injured ren

Prove it. What feats does injured Luke have to confirm that?

You're not offering any proof.

Luke didn't show himself to be capable of fighting after his injury. For him to be greater than Kylo, he would have to have shown himself to be capable of fighting. But he didn't. He didn't show himself to be capable of using a lightsaber or of fighting with the force. Kylo Ren did.

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sanitation officer with no lightsaber training and newly force awakened girl with no lightsaber training beat Kylo Ren.

luke, had some training

universal logic... with training > without training

kylo lost to 2 untrained newbies

lost pathetically to rey especially who had zero lightsaber training

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@combatt said:

injured luke > than rey or finn

rey and finn > injured ren

injured luke > injured ren

Kylo got beat by Ray when she's had no training. Annie, Obi, and Luke are all well trained in the force. Kylo stands no chance

AND still better duelists than him.

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The anti-kylo bias is indeed strong.

And Kylo still loses.

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My God...

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@combatt:

And....still absolutely nothing to indicate that Luke could fight after his injury. Just bias and blindness. No proof

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well, he can still move and walk and jump after his hand got cut-off... so yeah

ren lost pathetically to an untrained force awakened female... and a sanitations trooper...

I highly doubt ren can take on a one handed jedi trained luke skywalker.