The Inquisitor got wiped out by someone with far less force potential, and Kylo when bloodlusted attacks far too ravenously and has far superior telekinetic showings. In pure sabers its a decent fight with Kylo edging it due to being more powerful
Potential =/= current power.
Kylo get his ass kicked by a person who has zero training, he was wounded before that true, but his dueling performance against Finn and Rey... It was just shameful.
Kylo losing to Rey. I'll let that slide, but struggling against Finn? I hear people saying he was toying with Finn. I don't think so. After watching the movie I didn't ever get the sense that Kylo was the type of guy that "toyed around". He was just flat out struggling to put Finn away and Finn actually was able to injure him.
Kylo has raw potential only. He brings shame to the name Sith. He is an emotional wreck and a jobber and lost to an untrained noob who only had the most basic knowledge of how to use the force. Honestly he loses to any named Inquisitor, ranking Sith or Jedi Knight.
If he lost in a lightsaber duel with someone who had barely ever SEEN a lightsaber before, imagic how badly he would get whipped if he fought someone who was actually compotent. I know he was shot in the leg, but STILL it's awful for anyone who calls themselves a sith to job so badly. Vader could probably have killed luke in cloud city with both his hands tied behind his back and a malfunctioning leg
Kylo wins. I see people saying that he sucks because of his fight against Fin, two things. 1. He was shot in the gut with a bowcaster which is a weapon that insta kills everything it shoots and blew a storm trooper so far into the air that he landed meters away. 2. He was an emotional wreck. So considering He was SERIOUSLY hindered in his one dueling scene, has really impressive force control/raw power, and is said to have slaughtered his way through Luke's new padawans(his peers at the time) he should be able to take any of the inquisitors in a one on one battle.
@erkan12: I guess. So he brings shame to dark siders everywhere then, I mean it the guy was basically a toddler throwing a tantrum.
From what I gathered from watching the movie his backstory equated to: Was pissed of at his daddy so he went all emo, joined the dark side, killed a bunch of noob Jedi.
It might have been ok if he was a component force user, but he was FAR from that, and would be eaten alive by anybody above padawan level. I know he was snagged in the hip by a bowcaster before the duel, but put Vader in his place shoot him in the hip with a bowcaster, rip one of his arms off and take his saber and he would have still fodderised Fin and Rey. To lose that badly to complete newbies who have barely even see a saber is shameful
@decaf_wizard:SPOILERS He was shot in the stomach by Chewie's bow caster just previously, the same weapon that launched Stormtroopers through the air. Not to mention he was obviously an emotional wreck, so almost certainly was emotionally hindered in both of their fights to a very high degree. And he hasn't finished his training according to Snoke
Also, comparing Kylo to Vader is not fair at all
he's not a disposable Inquisitor
Why not? Vaders Inquisitors were kiling Jedi Knights and padawans from the Clone Wars while all Ren has is killing noob Jedi of some new Jedi Order that did not have half what the Clone Wars ones did.
He fits the definition of disposable Inquisitor.
@sirfizzwhizz: Yeah true the the only people he killed were other students. But I meant he's more worthy of being a Sith (if he is one) than any of the Inquisitors and his force potential puts him above them. We can't gauge his lightsaber skills accurately yet bbecause he was super hindered in his fight but assuming that his skills are as good as his power on a normal day hr should win.
@sirfizzwhizz: Yeah true the the only people he killed were other students. But I meant he's more worthy of being a Sith (if he is one) than any of the Inquisitors and his force potential puts him above them. We can't gauge his lightsaber skills accurately yet because he's he was super hindered in his fight but assuming that his skills are as good as his power on a normal day hr should win.
A lot of assumption in this.
Lol, everyone was hyped for the movie. Now that Kylo Ren has his feats everyone is just trashing on how weak he is XD
Yeah, the guy was able to stop blaster shots like nothing and got owned by two dudes who never picked on saber before.
I think the reason he lost was just a metter of luck. Kylo was mentally disabled at the time, got shot by Chewie and had to fight a very powerful and awakened force user.
Kyle had been hit with a bowcaster (basically an At-ST direct hit) and had just murdered his dad. He's also facing off against a god-tier Mary Sue who managed to become stronger than EBS Luke in the span of a day.
I say kylo. He's the son of leia, nephew of Luke and grandson of Vader his power is off the charts.
Assuming Kylo is a competent enough duelist to compete with a former jedi knight who was trained by Darth Vader when he's not injured is a pretty big assumption. All we know is that uninjured he managed to kill what amounted to younglings through unknown means and later struggled to put down a Stormtrooper in a duel, then lost to an uninitiated Force Sensitive who'd never used a lightsaber before in her life.
Injured and weakened as he was, he was still moving around decently well and seemed to be trying to draw strength from the pain of his wound, so he should have immediately disarmed both of them and cut them down if his level of skill was where people are trying to put him.
It's hard to say as we haven't seen much of what Kylo Ren can do. He definitely has a much greater potential, but I doubt he's fought anybody on The Grand Inquisitor's skill level before. I personally think TGI is one of the most underrated warriors in Star Wars. I don't think he'd beat characters like TCW Kenobi or Ventress, but I don't think he'd get stomped by them either. Every time I saw him fight I was under the impression he was an exceptionally skilled force user and warrior. The Emperor or Vader did make him the Grand Inquisitor after all. I can't imagine they'd give that title to a pushover.
Until I see something from Kylo Ren in the future to suggest otherwise I'd say TGI wins 8/10
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