Kylo Ren (TLJ) vs Darth Maul who wins?

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hulkbuster94

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@kgb725: how aren't the sabre duels in the prequels realistic? Watch the behind the scenes training for them the actors themselves performed the duels. The only part cgi was used was for example when they do the mad flips well apart from Ray Park as darth maul. but the sabre combat was all done by the actors like the duel between obi wan and anakin, the fuel between maul and obi wan. The duels in the new one aren't really realistic just that Disney don't really have much idea about the way lucas wanted the duels to be portrayed.or anything about light sabres or the force in general. The reason obi wan and darth vaders duel was slow in a new hope was because alec guiness was old and due to the light sabres being easy to break it suited those films but he wanted actual faster paced combat as the jedi and sith are basically super human.

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Maul stomps all while meditating.

@Erkan12: Thought you might want to see this.

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Maul wrecks

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Maul for 1.

Kylo for 2 and 3.

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Pretty sure Maul wins all rounds. Was force freeze or whatever impressive? Yes. Not indicative of power though. And unless it’s purely Episode 1, I myself would include novels like lockdown but if you aren’t gonna then Kylo probably. Don’t know why we’d bother though with round 2 then.

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Maul destroys effortlessly each time.

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#57  Edited By KingJedi

Obviously round 1 goes to Maul, but I don’t see how people are saying Maul so matter of factly for round 2..

By feats and hype Kylo is stronger and wins in a force round against TPM Maul.

Round 3 goes back to Maul again.

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Maul curbstomps. Kylo is no match for any decent prequel era force user.

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Kylo can't stand up to any of the old serious Sith lords or Jedi.

Maul stomps with ease.

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I think people are forgetting one major thing. The Force is the power that fuels the best duelists. Jedi Forms don’t just require technical mastery. That’s why the only people Nick Gillard names as Tier 9 - Mace Windu (8 bordering 9), Anakin Skywalker, Darth Sidious, and Yoda - are the people with the strongest connections to the Force in Galactic History.

I mean, how do you think Luke Skywalker advanced drastically as a lightsaber duelist between The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, when Luke constructed his new lightsaber right before the start of the latter movie?

Kylo flounders when using the Force directly against Force Sensitive people. And his attacks are extremely raw and basic. There’s nothing suggesting to me that he can overwhelm Maul, who as of Rebels is at least comparable to ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi in raw power. Not to mention Maul proves himself in Rebels to be very well versed in arcane Sith Lore and Nightsister spells and magic.

Maul takes all three rounds with ease.

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Maul all rounds.

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Maul has shown to be far too skilled to lose round 1, probably takes it 10/10

Round 2 is all for kylo though, he’s definitely above maul in this category

Round 3: I think maul is above kylo in saber more than kylo is above maul in force, so maul

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@co-boss:

What has Kylo Ren done that proves he is Maul’s superior as a Force Wielder?

Freeze non Force-users in place? Maul has frozen Jedi Council Master Obi-Wan Kenobi in place.

Freeze blaster bolts? An injured and distracted Maul pulled a Jedi Shuttle over the edge of a cliff.

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Maul still wins and will still win after TROS

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Maul stomps

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Bump:

I'm assuming that this is movies only.

R1: Maul stomps for obvious reasons. Vastly superior feats, and, just visually comparing them, Maul is much much better.

R2: still Maul. Is a full-fledged Sith Lord which imo carries enough hype to put him over an acolyte like Kylo. Plus, Maul ragdolling an enraged Knight-level Jedi surpasses anything Kylo has done.

R3: Maul stomps.