Kronos ( Wrath of the titans ) vs The Avengers ( Movie )

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#1  Edited By kingkronos

Kronos:

Avengers: Thor, Hulk, Captain America, Iron man, Hawkeye, Black Widow.

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#2  Edited By IKnowEverything

I don't see how they could win. Thor would be the key. If he charged up he might be able to destroy Kronos. The rest are useless except Iron Man.

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#3  Edited By The_Thunderer

Thor solos (cos rest are useless) He flies through him if he has a body

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#4  Edited By kingkronos

@The_Thunderer said:

Thor solos (cos rest are useless) He flies through him if he has a body

The rest aren't useless, thor wasn't the only one fighting the chitauri. Iron man and hulk can be of use.....

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#5  Edited By The_Thunderer

@kingkronos: Iron Man would melt prolly, and hulk might be, but he is too slow..

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#6  Edited By kingkronos

@The_Thunderer: Then you really think thor can solo Kronos?

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@The_Thunderer said:

@kingkronos: Iron Man would melt prolly, and hulk might be, but he is too slow..

Iron man has ranged attacks and can fly. So I think Iron man can do something other than melt....

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#8  Edited By Bo88gdan

Avengers Maybe

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#9  Edited By Trinity00

Captain America,Black Widow,Hawkeye, die as soon as the first blast of lava hit them, Iron Man tries to avoid but gets tagged and retreats for repairs, Hulk gets drowned in magma

Thor: F*ck this I'm going back to Asgard.

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@Trinity00 said:

Captain America,Black Widow,Hawkeye, die as soon as the first blast of lava hit them, Iron Man tries to avoid but gets tagged and retreats for repairs, Hulk gets drowned in magma

Thor: F*ck this I'm going back to Asgard.

So......... Kronos wins?

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@kingkronos said:

@Trinity00 said:

Captain America,Black Widow,Hawkeye, die as soon as the first blast of lava hit them, Iron Man tries to avoid but gets tagged and retreats for repairs, Hulk gets drowned in magma

Thor: F*ck this I'm going back to Asgard.

So......... Kronos wins?

Is Thor's brother a orphan?

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#12  Edited By justleader

kronos wins here because he was destroying mountains easily he was just moving forward he also defeated zeus and hades together and the only weapon capable of defeating him is the spear of trium

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kronos wins here because he was destroying mountains easily he was just moving forward he also defeated zeus and hades together and the only weapon capable of defeating him is the spear of trium

SPOILERS DUDE!

NOT ALL OF US SAW THE MOVIE!

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#14  Edited By justleader

@rinity00: so how could you debate if you didnt see the movie? anyway when you see it you will defenitely say kronos and btw it was very very very awesome

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@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@ kingkronos how do you put videos in threads

What? I am not getting what your saying here.......

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#17  Edited By Trinity00

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@rinity00: so how could you debate if you didnt see the movie? anyway when you see it you will defenitely say kronos and btw it was very very very awesome

By looking at the trailer the OP posted, besides you should have put the spoiler.

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#18  Edited By TheSuperHuman

If you haven't seen the movie, don't debate. If you must debate, don't expect spoiler warnings. You're making the choice to debate on something you have little knowledge of, therefore your demands should be overlooked. Back on topic; Kronos would slaughter them. Thor may get some good shots in. But that won't be enough to put the Elder God down; nothing else could, except for the Spear of Triam which was the only way to kill him.

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#19  Edited By Trinity00

@TheSuperHuman: lol dude the op left a video jeesh no need to be mean about it.

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#20  Edited By TheSuperHuman
@Trinity00 said:

@TheSuperHuman: lol dude the op left a video jeesh no need to be mean about it.

Wasn't trying to be. =P
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#21  Edited By justleader

@TheSuperHuman: totally agree with you about kronos

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#22  Edited By Ancient_0f_Days

Thor Solos with casual lightning bolt ............. the rest either die or retreat ....... Movie Thor was stronger than all the gods in Wrath/Clash of the titans ..... he has better feats ...... like downing two giant chitauri beast whale things in one lightning shot ....... Kronos wasn't that big .... all he did was wave his arms around and slide around like a slug ..... he one shotted a bunch normal people .... Zues and Hades were weakened and were lame too ..... Thor doesn't need some stupid spear to own Kronos ..... just whirl that hammer around faster than helicopter blades and chuck it ..... or charge up a energy shot .... thats all ....

Thor Solos .........

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@Ancient_0f_Days: thor solos? and kronos wasnt big? and kronos killed a bunch of humans? im sorry but youre very wrong here the mountains were small to kronos and he killed the humans without even noticing just by waving his hands you said it yourself which proves how powerful he is and he defeated zeus and hades who were very powerful if you watch the clash of the titans you will see how hades is powerful, and thor's lightning wont do anythiing to kronos since unlike thor who is a child that needs to be taught lessons by his father kronos is a primordial god whose mother and father are literally the earth and the heaven respectively so kronos uberslaughterstomps

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#24  Edited By The_Thunderer

@justleader: you obviously don't know Thor's parents..

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#25  Edited By Mad8Baller

Thor - God stuck doing Solo.  Since they are both gods, it's really hard to tell.
Hulk - Definitely Weaker than Kronos.  He still didn't manage to kill Loki after smashing him around for like 3secs.
Captain America - Cowers behind his shield while Kronos steps on him.  Shield survives, but Captain goes SPLAT!
Iron man - shoots his laser into Kronos face and Kronos swats at him with his hands.  Ironman is forced to pull back after using lots of power and still doing 0 damage.  Or Ironman actually gets hit by Kronos' hand and gets hit backwards like half way across the globe.
Hawkeye - Shoots Arrows at Kronos.  Kronos steps on him.
Black Widow - Probably gets stepped on  as well or she manages to have enough agility to dodge his big feet, but manages to do nothing.

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#26  Edited By progenitorigin

Kronos wins. Thor is a godling, the combined might of Zeus & Hades together couldn't take down Kronos, a special, godly weapon was required to destroy Kronos.

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#27  Edited By Jayfournines

Movie Thor ain't soloing nothing here, all of them die and Kronos wins

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#28  Edited By niBBit

Thor is the best one in this but still loses, Zeus's Lightning attack is no joke, Perseus uses Zeus's Lightning in the first movie to send Hades flying true the air and then banishing to the Underword in the process, yet when Zeus attacks Kronus he only was hurt a little, later on Hades join with Zeus and attack them both together with an combined attack with shook the entire ground yet it did nothing to Kronus. Thor's lighting in the movie is strong but i doubt its as strong as Zeus/Hades combined attack.

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@Ancient_0f_Days: thor solos? and kronos wasnt big? and kronos killed a bunch of humans? im sorry but youre very wrong here the mountains were small to kronos and he killed the humans without even noticing just by waving his hands you said it yourself which proves how powerful he is and he defeated zeus and hades who were very powerful if you watch the clash of the titans you will see how hades is powerful, and thor's lightning wont do anythiing to kronos since unlike thor who is a child that needs to be taught lessons by his father kronos is a primordial god whose mother and father are literally the earth and the heaven respectively so kronos uberslaughterstomps

Honestly....

Thor's father is Odin, All-Father and God of War, Poetry, Death, Magic, Wisdom, Knowledge, Foresight, Strength, and the Great Hunt.

Avengers slaughter.

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@ShootingNova said:

@justleader said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: thor solos? and kronos wasnt big? and kronos killed a bunch of humans? im sorry but youre very wrong here the mountains were small to kronos and he killed the humans without even noticing just by waving his hands you said it yourself which proves how powerful he is and he defeated zeus and hades who were very powerful if you watch the clash of the titans you will see how hades is powerful, and thor's lightning wont do anythiing to kronos since unlike thor who is a child that needs to be taught lessons by his father kronos is a primordial god whose mother and father are literally the earth and the heaven respectively so kronos uberslaughterstomps

Honestly....

Thor's father is Odin, All-Father and God of War, Poetry, Death, Magic, Wisdom, Knowledge, Foresight, Strength, and the Great Hunt.

Avengers slaughter.

No, unfortunately they don't. As I stated before, which is emphasized in the movie; the only way to destroy Kronos is to use the Spear of Triam. In which the Avengers have no way of getting.
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#31  Edited By ShootingNova

@TheSuperHuman said:

@ShootingNova said:

@justleader said:

@Ancient_0f_Days: thor solos? and kronos wasnt big? and kronos killed a bunch of humans? im sorry but youre very wrong here the mountains were small to kronos and he killed the humans without even noticing just by waving his hands you said it yourself which proves how powerful he is and he defeated zeus and hades who were very powerful if you watch the clash of the titans you will see how hades is powerful, and thor's lightning wont do anythiing to kronos since unlike thor who is a child that needs to be taught lessons by his father kronos is a primordial god whose mother and father are literally the earth and the heaven respectively so kronos uberslaughterstomps

Honestly....

Thor's father is Odin, All-Father and God of War, Poetry, Death, Magic, Wisdom, Knowledge, Foresight, Strength, and the Great Hunt.

Avengers slaughter.

No, unfortunately they don't. As I stated before, which is emphasize in the movie; the only way to destroy Kronos is to use the Spear of Triam. In which the Avengers have no way of getting.

Fine then, they don't "slaughter", but take it. There are other ways to kill a god/titan, many have considered one invulnerable except by a certain weapon, but other weapons have destroyed that person all the same. For example, Odin's spear Gungnir.

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#32  Edited By ShootingNova

@Sci_Fi_Rulez said:

@ kingkronos how do you put videos in threads

That's easy. Find a video you like on Youtube (not necessarily, but I do it more often than not), right click on it, select "copy embed code" and then click on the video option on the top of your reply box thing, paste the embed code and then click "insert" and you will have a video embedded.

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Fine then, they don't "slaughter", but take it. There are other ways to kill a god/titan, many have considered one invulnerable except by a certain weapon, but other weapons have destroyed that person all the same. For example, Odin's spear Gungnir.

But there are no other ways to destroy Kronos, thus leaving the Avengers defeated. Kronos is so large and composed of molten lava, rock and godly essence, that it'd be nearly, if not impossible to take him down. And no one knows whether Odin's weapon, or any other godly weapon is formidable enough to destroy Kronos. He is, after all, above Sky-father level.
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@ShootingNova said:

Fine then, they don't "slaughter", but take it. There are other ways to kill a god/titan, many have considered one invulnerable except by a certain weapon, but other weapons have destroyed that person all the same. For example, Odin's spear Gungnir.

But there are no other ways to destroy Kronos, thus leaving the Avengers defeated. Kronos is so large and composed of molten lava, rock and godly essence, that it'd be nearly, if not impossible to take him down. And no one knows whether Odin's weapon, or any other godly weapon is formidable enough to destroy Kronos. He is, after all, above Sky-father level.

Odin is also a skyfather, but he drained his brothers Vili and Ve, which technically makes him above Skyfather-level. He has also defeated the primeval giant Ymir, so large that he was around a world's size, slightly larger in fact, and was so powerful all others were defeated before hand. It took Odin's powers after he drained his brothers to defeat him, and his spear Gungnir is specially enchanted so that it always hits and always kills.

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@ShootingNova said:

@TheSuperHuman said:

@ShootingNova said:

Fine then, they don't "slaughter", but take it. There are other ways to kill a god/titan, many have considered one invulnerable except by a certain weapon, but other weapons have destroyed that person all the same. For example, Odin's spear Gungnir.

But there are no other ways to destroy Kronos, thus leaving the Avengers defeated. Kronos is so large and composed of molten lava, rock and godly essence, that it'd be nearly, if not impossible to take him down. And no one knows whether Odin's weapon, or any other godly weapon is formidable enough to destroy Kronos. He is, after all, above Sky-father level.

Odin is also a skyfather, but he drained his brothers Vili and Ve, which technically makes him above Skyfather-level. He has also defeated the primeval giant Ymir, so large that he was around a world's size, slightly larger in fact, and was so powerful all others were defeated before hand. It took Odin's powers after he drained his brothers to defeat him, and his spear Gungnir is specially enchanted so that it always hits and always kills.

That's an interesting tale, but that has nothing to do with this battle. Odin is not part of the Avengers, and since the Avengers are not allowed access to Asgard to collect Odin's spear, let alone have any access to any form of weapon outside of their own, they are not killing Kronos. They lose, pretty badly at that. If the combined weapons of Zeus, Hades and Poseidon was the only weapon able to destroy Kronos, that means nothing else can. Don't know how to be clearer of that.
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@ShootingNova said:

@TheSuperHuman said:

@ShootingNova said:

Fine then, they don't "slaughter", but take it. There are other ways to kill a god/titan, many have considered one invulnerable except by a certain weapon, but other weapons have destroyed that person all the same. For example, Odin's spear Gungnir.

But there are no other ways to destroy Kronos, thus leaving the Avengers defeated. Kronos is so large and composed of molten lava, rock and godly essence, that it'd be nearly, if not impossible to take him down. And no one knows whether Odin's weapon, or any other godly weapon is formidable enough to destroy Kronos. He is, after all, above Sky-father level.

Odin is also a skyfather, but he drained his brothers Vili and Ve, which technically makes him above Skyfather-level. He has also defeated the primeval giant Ymir, so large that he was around a world's size, slightly larger in fact, and was so powerful all others were defeated before hand. It took Odin's powers after he drained his brothers to defeat him, and his spear Gungnir is specially enchanted so that it always hits and always kills.

That's an interesting tale, but that has nothing to do with this battle. Odin is not part of the Avengers, and since the Avengers are not allowed access to Asgard to collect Odin's spear, let alone have any access to any form of weapon outside of their own, they are not killing Kronos. They lose, pretty badly at that. If the combined weapons of Zeus, Hades and Poseidon was the only weapon able to destroy Kronos, that means nothing else can. Don't know how to be clearer of that.

Mjolnir is stated to have similar powers.... and is one of the most powerful Nordic relics/weapons. Mjolnir can:

*Can strike has firmly as Thor wants.

*Hammer will never fail

*It would never miss, nor would it ever fly so far it cannot find its way back into his hand. Mjolnir has flown through planets to return to Thor's hand.

*It has the power to level/destroy mountains

Nevertheless, just because they existed in different mythologies doesn't bar the fact that target hit by Gungnir = Dead, and it was the only weapon in Greek Mythology that could silence Kronos, not out of all mythologies and other concepts. Kronos has yet to show any feats that allow him to defeat Thor.

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If we take Avengers from the movies i think they lose. People can say that Thor's hammer can go true planets and scatter entire mountains and what not but such things are not shown in the Avengers movie. In the movie Zeus attacks first with his lightning, the lightning travels towards Kronus destroying ground while it travels, after it hits Kronus he's like....nothing and walks forward. Later Hades joins in and together with Zeus lighting and Hades Dark Magic attack Kronus together and Kronus only stumbeled and again pushed forward. Zeus's lightning is no joke, in the first movie Perseus tru his Lightning Sword uses it to send Hades flying backward all the way back to the Underworld and banishing him in the process (i posted the youtube link in my previous post). Lets say Thor's Mjolnir lightning is stronger than Zeus in the movie, i doubt its THAT much stronger than Zeus/Hades combo attack against Kronus (witch didn't do much). Also Kronus in the movie with one swing level'd and entire city that was resting apon the mountain, with one lava/fireball attack he lvl'd the army that was stationd at the front, with one punch to the ground he send forth an shockwave that Zeus was barley able to hold, the second one send Zeus flying. Hades Dark magic is no joke either, when both Hades and Zeus join in the battle against those statue/monster/demon things Hades destroyed them with a simple hand gesture like it was nothing they litterly faporized.

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@niBBit said:

If we take Avengers from the movies i think they lose. People can say that Thor's hammer can go true planets and scatter entire mountains and what not but such things are not shown in the Avengers movie. In the movie Zeus attacks first with his lightning, the lightning travels towards Kronus destroying ground while it travels, after it hits Kronus he's like....nothing and walks forward. Later Hades joins in and together with Zeus lighting and Hades Dark Magic attack Kronus together and Kronus only stumbeled and again pushed forward. Zeus's lightning is no joke, in the first movie Perseus tru his Lightning Sword uses it to send Hades flying backward all the way back to the Underworld and banishing him in the process (i posted the youtube link in my previous post). Lets say Thor's Mjolnir lightning is stronger than Zeus in the movie, i doubt its THAT much stronger than Zeus/Hades combo attack against Kronus (witch didn't do much). Also Kronus in the movie with one swing level'd and entire city that was resting apon the mountain, with one lava/fireball attack he lvl'd the army that was stationd at the front, with one punch to the ground he send forth an shockwave that Zeus was barley able to hold, the second one send Zeus flying. Hades Dark magic is no joke either, when both Hades and Zeus join in the battle against those statue/monster/demon things Hades destroyed them with a simple hand gesture like it was nothing they litterly faporized.

Thor's lightning bolts shattered countless of those machines that were coming down.... including those giant snakes lol.

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#39  Edited By justleader

@ShootingNova: hahaha allfather you say well do you know who kronos' father and mother is? lets start with that his mother is the earth and she created all existance and his father is literally the cosmos itself (uranus) so i suggest we dont even start to compare their parents because odin will be the nothingfather after he faces kronos parents

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Kronos

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@ShootingNova: and really if you are using mythology here like thor's hammer will return it can shake mountains well thats just literally nothing compared to what kronos did, first of all he defeated his father uranus who is the personification of all existance now show me something even close to that. and ssecond of all he became the ruler of the entire reality and universe so how could you compare kronos to thor?

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@ShootingNova: hahaha allfather you say well do you know who kronos' father and mother is? lets start with that his mother is the earth and she created all existance and his father is literally the cosmos itself (uranus) so i suggest we dont even start to compare their parents because odin will be the nothingfather after he faces kronos parents

Yes I do. The mother is Gaea/Gaia, primordial Titan and the Earth. Ouranos/Uranus is the Titan of the Sky/Heavens, you think you are schooling me? I was once a mythology addict, and Greek Mythology was what I studied the second most. When you study Norse Mythology, come back to me. Odin's spear poseesses immense power, Gungnir always hits and always kills. He has also faced a primordial titan before, Ymir, who he defeated and created the world with. He has fought for far longer than Kronos, fighting with a far wider experience, can wield with expertise a far greater variety of weapons, and from the Well of Mimir, has far more knowledge and foresight. He has faced beings like Fenrir, who, when outstretching his jaws, could swallow the sun, Surtr, who could cover entire worlds in fire, and Jormungandr, who is so large his body encircles the world and he sleeps with his tail in his mouth at the bottom of the ocean. I'm going to bed now, good day to you.

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@ShootingNova: so what if someone swallows the sun or eats it im telling you that kronos defeated a personification of the entire cosmos which includes the sun, the stars,the moon the planets,etc......and all are just parts of him now tell me if odin faced someone like that? and kronos was nigh omnipresent and nigh omniscient since zeus was literally hid away between the earth and the sky meaning somewhere below the atmosphere so that kronos wouldnt realize so i wouldnt compare kronos and odin

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#44  Edited By _Psy_

Kronos made himself a CV account and purposely attempted to make a spite thread with himself as the winner. He failed of course.
 
Kronos in the movie was a mountain of molten rock. A tornado would spread him apart like butter.

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@_Punk_: you think kronos is just a mountain walking? well unlike the avengers who are a bunch of some failed experiments(i remember the correct term used by the shield was a bunch of freaks) kronos is a god son of the sky and the earth,, the ruler of the universe and father to the greatest olympians(the three most powerful brothers and sisters) he also defeated his father uranus but lets not talk about that since it isnt stated in the movie well kronos actually as you see destroyed mountains easily destroyed a town with a flick of a hand and has the makhai and chimera who will beat the crap out of the avenges

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#46  Edited By _Psy_
@justleader: In mythology. Too bad for you the movie makers butchered Kronos. I know exactly who he is, I'm a expert on several forms of mythology. I'm talking about the movie version.

Thor wasn't an experiment, he's a God.
Hulk was created on accident because of a experiment, he wasn't the experiment itself.
Black Widow is a spy who never was involved in any experiments.
Hawkeye is a assassin who was never involved in any experiments. 
Captain America was a highly successful experiment.
Iron Man wasn't an experiment, he was a mission.
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#47  Edited By justleader

@ _Punk_: thor is a demigod they said it in the tv spots and his mother isnt a god as we have seen in the movie. and did thor destroy a mountain? his biggest feat was in jotenheim with his lightning attack and you think that will stop kronos? hephaeusteus said that kronos will dismantle the earth and scatter it across the universe and in kronos featurre they said that he is the destroyer of the universe which makes sense since he destroyed his father uranus. and did you see kronos' size did you see what mountains where to him? his mere release resulted in a volcanic explosion it is also stated that he spawned the makhai and the chimera which wiped out entire armies so even that would be enough to take out the avengers. and did you really watch the first movie and did you see how powerful was hades? and despite that he not only defeated hades but also the king of the gods zeus

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#48  Edited By Floopay

Iron Man is not useless here, I don't know why people are assuming so.

1. Iron Man is super fast, small (in comparison to Kronos), hard to tag, and can withstand extremely high temperatures, even his original suit could withstand those high heats, and it was built in a cave. Over and above this he has an arsenal of explosives that can take out something as big and armored as a tank with relative ease.

2. Hulk should be pretty much immune to anything Kronos can do, and Kronos is not too fast for him. I'm relatively certain that Hulk could knock him around pretty hardcore.

3. Thor can control the weather, he could make it rain, bring forth a tornado, throw lightning bolts, etc. etc. All of which would be extremely harmful to the movie version of Kronos.

4. Captain America would also be pretty useful. He could stay in back and bark orders over a comm system, and direct the team.

5. Black widow would be pretty useless, I'll give you that.

6. Hawkeye could probably cause some damage. Maybe Iron Man could get him a flyer or something and he could get a few well placed arrows off before he was disintegrated.

I think the Avengers should take this.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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#49  Edited By justleader

@Floopay: you realize you cant compare a tank to kronos right? and how exactly could hulk do damage kronos is made of lava hulk will be disintegrated and iron man will be a lava man before he could even try something. thor could manipulate the weather but then again zeus is the god of weather and you know what it didnt stop kronos even the combined attack of zeus and kronos only stoped kronos for a second and this debate should be about how many seconds or miliseconds can the avengers last.

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#50  Edited By kingkronos

@_Punk_ said:

Kronos made himself a CV account and purposely attempted to make a spite thread with himself as the winner. He failed of course. Kronos in the movie was a mountain of molten rock. A tornado would spread him apart like butter.

Go f*ck yourself, don't accuse me of something I didn't do. And I don't give a sh*t about winning this debate. In this site there are only stupid comic fanboys who don't know sh*t. So why don't you close that mouth of yours and learn how to respect yourself. I admit that I think this is a stomp for Kronos, but I wanted to know how far stupid the comic fanboys are. And I guess I now have an idea......