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#1  Edited By castleking

Kraven the hunter is tracking killer croc when NW sees kraven from his vantage point above a building. kraven reaches what appears to be an empty ware house when he catches the cent of NW and hears him swinging toward his location.


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#2  Edited By Captain Planet

Nightwing wins

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#3  Edited By SUNMAN
Captain Planet said:
"Nightwing wins
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#4  Edited By castleking

bump

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Kraven.

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#6  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

I think Nightwing can handle Kraven.His is a master of several styles unlike Spider-Man,he has great acrobatic ability,he's quite the detective and he's plenty smart.I don't see Kraven having an advantage at all here.He can't exploit Nightwing's lack of fighting ability because Nightwing has that..he can't exploit his senses because he doesn't have prep and Nightwing has no Spider-Sense.I think Nightwing has this.

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Well Kraven outclasses him physically thanks to his special herbs. And he's also pretty skilled in H2H and very strategic, he has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. With his superior speed and strength, he could use one of his poisons or KO him with one well placed hit.

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#8  Edited By Kataklysmo
Kraven
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#9  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Well Kraven outclasses him physically thanks to his special herbs. And he's also pretty skilled in H2H and very strategic, he has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. With his superior speed and strength, he could use one of his poisons or KO him with one well placed hit.
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First of all even with the special herbs Kraven barely outclasses Nightwing.He's a very low level superhuman..like he has the minimum requirements for superhuman ability.I don't see what makes Kraven so good h2h.Going against Spider-Man is obviously something people with a touch of fighting skill can do.Kraven is strategic but so is Nightwing.He's a great leader..some believe even better than Supes for the JLA.I don't know where Kraven is getting these poisons from but in a straight one on one,Nightwing is going to kick his ass.
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#10  Edited By Static Shock

Kraven.

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#11  Edited By SUNMAN
Vance Astro said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Well Kraven outclasses him physically thanks to his special herbs. And he's also pretty skilled in H2H and very strategic, he has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. With his superior speed and strength, he could use one of his poisons or KO him with one well placed hit.
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First of all even with the special herbs Kraven barely outclasses Nightwing.He's a very low level superhuman..like he has the minimum requirements for superhuman ability.I don't see what makes Kraven so good h2h.Going against Spider-Man is obviously something people with a touch of fighting skill can do.Kraven is strategic but so is Nightwing.He's a great leader..some believe even better than Supes for the JLA.I don't know where Kraven is getting these poisons from but in a straight one on one,Nightwing is going to kick his ass.
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agreed. Nightwing is smarter than Kraven, and is more skilled in h2h/MA.
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Vance Astro said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Well Kraven outclasses him physically thanks to his special herbs. And he's also pretty skilled in H2H and very strategic, he has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. With his superior speed and strength, he could use one of his poisons or KO him with one well placed hit.
First of all even with the special herbs Kraven barely outclasses Nightwing.He's a very low level superhuman..like he has the minimum requirements for superhuman ability.I don't see what makes Kraven so good h2h.Going against Spider-Man is obviously something people with a touch of fighting skill can do.Kraven is strategic but so is Nightwing.He's a great leader..some believe even better than Supes for the JLA.I don't know where Kraven is getting these poisons from but in a straight one on one,Nightwing is going to kick his ass.
He's still superhuman and outclasses him physically. I'm not saying Kraven is better than Nightwing in H2H, but he is skilled and has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. Nightwing is better leader, not a better hunter. Kraven has tranquilizing drugs and sprays in his belt tusks at all times.
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#13  Edited By castleking
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Vance Astro said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Well Kraven outclasses him physically thanks to his special herbs. And he's also pretty skilled in H2H and very strategic, he has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. With his superior speed and strength, he could use one of his poisons or KO him with one well placed hit.
First of all even with the special herbs Kraven barely outclasses Nightwing.He's a very low level superhuman..like he has the minimum requirements for superhuman ability.I don't see what makes Kraven so good h2h.Going against Spider-Man is obviously something people with a touch of fighting skill can do.Kraven is strategic but so is Nightwing.He's a great leader..some believe even better than Supes for the JLA.I don't know where Kraven is getting these poisons from but in a straight one on one,Nightwing is going to kick his ass.
He's still superhuman and outclasses him physically. I'm not saying Kraven is better than Nightwing in H2H, but he is skilled and has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. Nightwing is better leader, not a better hunter. Kraven has tranquilizing drugs and sprays in his belt tusks at all times.
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nightwing also has gas pellets and other items in his belt, with kraven super senses it would have a greater effect on him. kraven is barely peak/ superhuman something nightwing has dealt  with in the past he shouldnt to far behind in stats with kraven.

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#14  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Vance Astro said:
"The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Well Kraven outclasses him physically thanks to his special herbs. And he's also pretty skilled in H2H and very strategic, he has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. With his superior speed and strength, he could use one of his poisons or KO him with one well placed hit.
First of all even with the special herbs Kraven barely outclasses Nightwing.He's a very low level superhuman..like he has the minimum requirements for superhuman ability.I don't see what makes Kraven so good h2h.Going against Spider-Man is obviously something people with a touch of fighting skill can do.Kraven is strategic but so is Nightwing.He's a great leader..some believe even better than Supes for the JLA.I don't know where Kraven is getting these poisons from but in a straight one on one,Nightwing is going to kick his ass.
He's still superhuman and outclasses him physically. I'm not saying Kraven is better than Nightwing in H2H, but he is skilled and has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. Nightwing is better leader, not a better hunter. Kraven has tranquilizing drugs and sprays in his belt tusks at all times.
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Since when did barely being outclassed mean anything?
Kraven is nowhere near Nightwing in fighting ability and with Kraven not being that far ahead of him physically that puts Nightwing in winning distance.
Nightwing being a good leader means he knows how to strategize..Hunting animals isn't the same as hunting Nightwing just like it's not the same as Kraven hunting Spider-Man.He's not fighting someone with flaws in his abilities in combat.He's fighting a genius,who is a bette fighter than he is.
Kraven has sprays and poisons and all that..Nightwing has quite the little arsenal himself.
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#15  Edited By SUNMAN

Nightwing has taken on guys that would destroy Kraven (example Deathstroke) and has beaten them before.

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#16  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
SUNMAN said:
"Nightwing has taken on guys that would destroy Kraven (example Deathstroke) and has beaten them before."
I was going to say that but..I expected people to b#tch about battle history comments so I left it alone.
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#17  Edited By Static Shock
SUNMAN said:
"Nightwing has taken on guys that would destroy Kraven (example Deathstroke) and has beaten them before."
Kraven beat Spider-Man, and he would thrash Nightwing.
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Hmmm.... I remember Kraven being a lot stronger than he actually is I guess.
I might change my mind after seeing what Nightwing did in a recent Superman/Batman.

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#19  Edited By Chrome Zillion
Static Shock said:
"SUNMAN said:
"Nightwing has taken on guys that would destroy Kraven (example Deathstroke) and has beaten them before."
Kraven beat Spider-Man, and he would thrash Nightwing.
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Is that ABC logic I sense?
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#20  Edited By Nighthunter
The Man of Yesteryear said:
"Well Kraven outclasses him physically thanks to his special herbs. And he's also pretty skilled in H2H and very strategic, he has used nerve strikes on Spider-Man before. With his superior speed and strength, he could use one of his poisons or KO him with one well placed hit.
"
I don't know about speed considering that Batman who is peak human in speed always has problems trying to catch Catwoman, Nightwing not only outran Catwoman but even had enough time to wait for her before she realized that he was there (that means it's quite an advantage and Catwoman started running first) That should say a lot about Nightwing's speed.

As for strength, Blockbuster is way stronger than Kraven and Dick was owning him ever since he was Robin with no trouble
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#21  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Oh BTW..I think Kraven beating Spider-Man is bullsh#t.

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#22  Edited By SUNMAN
Static Shock said:
"SUNMAN said:
"Nightwing has taken on guys that would destroy Kraven (example Deathstroke) and has beaten them before."
Kraven beat Spider-Man, and he would thrash Nightwing.
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Spider-Man owns Kraven any day of the week. Kraven has won briefly over Spider-Man a few times, but Spidey always gets the last laugh. If anything Kraven is use to getting beat down by Spider-Man. In a straight up one on one fight Spidey owns Kraven. While Dick is use to winning the majority of his fights. Nightwing will pummel Kraven.
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#23  Edited By Static Shock
Chrome Zillion said:
"Is that ABC logic I sense?"
You gonna call out SUNMAN for it?
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#24  Edited By SUNMAN
Chrome Zillion said:
"Static Shock said:
"SUNMAN said:
"Nightwing has taken on guys that would destroy Kraven (example Deathstroke) and has beaten them before."
Kraven beat Spider-Man, and he would thrash Nightwing.
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Is that ABC logic I sense?
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it is
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#25  Edited By Static Shock

SUNMAN said:
"it is"

You did the same thing.
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#26  Edited By SUNMAN
Static Shock said:
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SUNMAN said:
"it is"

You did the same thing.
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Yea but it is your fault for stooping to my level.

LOL!
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#27  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Static Shock said:
"Chrome Zillion said:
"Is that ABC logic I sense?"
You gonna call out SUNMAN for it?
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I figured you would do that since SUNMAN and I are arguing for the same character and you a making a case for Kraven.

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#28  Edited By Static Shock
SUNMAN said:
"Yea but it is your fault for stooping to my level."
And, it's your fault for starting it.
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#29  Edited By Static Shock
Vance Astro said:
I figured you would do that since SUNMAN and I are arguing for the same character and you a making a case for Kraven."
I only did it because SUNMAN did it.
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#30  Edited By SUNMAN
Static Shock said:
"Vance Astro said:
I figured you would do that since SUNMAN and I are arguing for the same character and you a making a case for Kraven."
I only did it because SUNMAN did it.
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would you jump off a building if I did too

lol
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#31  Edited By Static Shock
SUNMAN said:
"would you jump off a building if I did too"
I'd laugh at you.
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#32  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Static Shock said:
"Vance Astro said:
I figured you would do that since SUNMAN and I are arguing for the same character and you a making a case for Kraven."
I only did it because SUNMAN did it.
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And I only called you on it because you've called me on it when I wasn't doing it.
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#33  Edited By SUNMAN
Static Shock said:
"SUNMAN said:
"would you jump off a building if I did too"
I'd laugh at you.
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I could see that
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#34  Edited By claws

nightwing in an good fight

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#35  Edited By sexy_merc

I was thinking of making this.

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I'd give the edge to Kraven then. I don't think it is decisive either way who is winning. Nightwing is a bit of a better fighter, but Kraven has the speed and strength. I don't think either one has a large enough advantage over one or the other. As of now I'm saying Kraven, but I'm more than happy to defend Kraven if someone believes me wrong.

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#37  Edited By sexy_merc

This needs to be hijacked by k4tzm4n.

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@Sexy Merc said:
" This needs to be hijacked by k4tzm4n. "
I think thats a good idea.
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Kraven due to strength, speed and superior weaponry.

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#40  Edited By TheDandyMan

Kraven's able to keep up with Spiderman's agility pretty well and the two's martial arts skill isn't massively, massively different (although Dick does win this category). Apart from that, Kraven has the edge in most other things that will affect this battle (gadgets could be argued but Dick doesn't use them every fight he has) so I say him.

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Probably Kraven, but i bet that Nightwing would give him a good run for his money.

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Kraven.

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Kraven ftw.

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Kraven wins, but it would be hell of a fight due to Nigthwing's agility being above, and that Nightwing is more skilled by feats.

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Kraven hunts him down.

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Kraven.

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Kraven wrecks.

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With all of kravens amps, I'd definitely give it to him. Even without prep, his standard gear usually involves his potions/poisons/darts. He also has much higher damage soak than dick, and is used to fighting against acrobatic fighting styles through his numerous encounters with spider-man (a superior acrobat). Dick will have to pound away at him, because kraven only needs a few strikes to hit him, potentially surprising dick when he gets in close with his nipple-lasers.

dick is going to have to play it cool and use his utility belt items/tasers/etc... but even then I don't how effective they'll be against kraven.

6-7/10 to kraven

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Kraven cuts his throat