Kraven VS Cyber (rules)

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#1  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
Scenario: Cyber receives a memo informing him about a high paying job in the Amazon.  However, Sergie has sent the memo.  He views Cyber as the ultimate hunt, and if he can kill him he will feel he has accomplished his goal of being the ultimate hunter.  So, can the original Kraven take down the adamantium man...Or will he die trying?

Location:  3x3 miles.  Unpopulated (humans and animals).  8pm, sun is quickly setting.


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Rules:
-Cyber, being highly suspicious of the location, enters on extremely high alert, fearing it's a possible trap.
-Kraven has 30 minutes to set up traps.
-Kraven has all of his standard gear, including the serum he used during "Kraven's Last Hunt".
-Cyber is in his original body.
-This is the original Kraven.
-Elimination is by death only.




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I say Kraven.

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#3  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Why is that?

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#4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

*cricket, cricket*

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#5  Edited By .Spider-man.

Besides a face shot, would he be able to get through any other part of his body? Cyber back then was completely covered in adamantium right?

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#6  Edited By jesterlichloath
@.Spider-man. said:
"Besides a face shot, would he be able to get through any other part of his body? Cyber back then was completely covered in adamantium right?"

nope just skull and arms biceps up, if i recall right
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#7  Edited By Caligula

Kraven, would snipe him

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#8  Edited By jesterlichloath
@Caligula said:
"Kraven, would snipe him "

he would have to hit his lungs since his brain and heart are shielded
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#9  Edited By Caligula
@jesterlichloath said:
"@Caligula said:
"Kraven, would snipe him "
he would have to hit his lungs since his brain and heart are shielded "

and Kraven could do this with ease
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#10  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

IIIRC, all of his skin was laced with adamatium, except for his face.

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#11  Edited By castleking
his entire body was Bonded with the stuff...Cyber ftw
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#12  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Also, keep in mind Cyber has telepathy.  He claims he can pick up the brainwave patterns of anyone he wants to on the entire planet...If he's using this ability, it may alert him there's only one person and point him in their direction.

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#13  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I will stay at the sidelines for this; even though my mind gives this to Cyber.
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#14  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@castleking said:
"his entire body was Bonded with the stuff...Cyber ftw"

Not his face...And Kraven is the one with prep...So it's not like he's going to just attack the adamantium parts.
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#15  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
There is the issue of his telepathy that gives him the edge though...And that part is quite unclear.
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#16  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Morpheus_ said:
"There is the issue of his telepathy that gives him the edge though...And that part is quite unclear.
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As far as I know, it only allows him to locate a person...I'm not sure how accurate it can pinpoint the person though.  I'll just assume it tells him a person is in a region...This still leaves Cyber open to traps and such and if anything, may work to Kraven's advantage...Since this will lead Cyber directly to him.
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#17  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Kraven beating Cyber without weapons especially made to take Cyber out...seems completely ridiculous to me.I think people give Kraven way too much credit.Cyber isn't Spider-Man.

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#18  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Well, adamantium weapons can't even damage Cyber.  That's why I made this...Not because of my love for either character, but because I think it would make for an extremely interesting bout.  This is because Kraven will obviously have to switch up his tactics...This is an opponent he likely can't weaken or slow down with poison...This is someone he'll have to annoy with nets and do hit and run tactics.  The question is whether or not he can actually pull this off...I see this as being a much bigger challenge than Spider-Man.

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#19  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@k4tzm4n said:
" Well, adamantium weapons can't even damage Cyber.  That's why I made this...Not because of my love for either character, but because I think it would make for an extremely interesting bout.  This is because Kraven will obviously have to switch up his tactics...This is an opponent he likely can't weaken or slow down with poison...This is someone he'll have to annoy with nets and do hit and run tactics.  The question is whether or not he can actually pull this off...I see this as being a much bigger challenge than Spider-Man. "
I agree Cyber is a much bigger challenge than Spider-Man.I really don't think Kraven can win without a plot device.Honestly I don't even think he should be able to take Spidey either but that's me.
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#20  Edited By Chaos Prime

Imo 30 minute prep time doesnt work in Kravens favour.
Had the prep time been at least on the 4 hour mark imo Kraven could have dug some pit full of spikes for Cyber to fall into then unleash hell from above ;-)

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#21  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

30 minutes is more than enough for a person of his speed, agility and strength to make many standard traps that can distract or even annoy Cyber, IMO.

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#22  Edited By Chaos Prime
@k4tzm4n said:
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30 minutes is more than enough for a person of his speed, agility and strength to make many standard traps that can distract or even annoy Cyber, IMO.

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I was thinking of a pit deep enough that even Cyber would struggle getting out of ;-)  
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#23  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Gotcha.  I think Kraven has the potential to beat him without such a trap...But at the same time, I can easily see Cyber ripping him to shreds.  It's easily going to be Kraven's most difficult and strategic battle.

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#24  Edited By Chaos Prime

@k4tzm4n.Agreed thats why i feel Kraven has to keep him at a long distance.He needs to wear him down enough to unleash the killer blow & only with keeping him imomobile for a while & attacking then Cyber falling for the next trap will Kraven win this battle imo.
Guerilla tactics ;-)

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#25  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I'm interested to know, if a large portion of poison, or drug would work on Cyber...Since he has a healing factor in his original form, we can assume it would take a singnificant number of darts to a achieve a KO...So that's a no. I can't recall how advanced was Cyber's healing factor; could he replace his eyes p.e. in a time frame comparable to that of Wolverine? I believe his healing factor was not on par with Logan's. Because if he can heal that fast, there's only the incapacitation choice. And in this battle that is not an option. Close range, Cyber humiliated Logan once; and Kraven is nowhere near Wolverine's level of fighting skills.
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#26  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

When his eye was removed, he had to have an artifical one installed.  Also, his own hallucinogen (spelling?) worked on him, so poison may work.  Not entirely certain...would have to be a large dose.

IIRC, Cyber has actually man-handled Wolverine on three occasions.

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#27  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Hasn't Logan beat him two, or three times as well? I seem to recall only the first Logan - Cyber encounter in which he intimidated Logan.
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#28  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

It was never in a "direct" battle...There were always outside factors that saved him.

The first, a wolf bit cyber, saving Wolverine, the wound was then exposed to his own hallucinogens...It made him go crazy and run away.
Later, he was driving a truck and I believe it blew up.
Then, after Cyber broke Wolverine's claws, a female friend of Wolverine's dropped a desk on Cyber from a few stories high.
Another time, Kitty Pryde had to save Wolverine by trapping Cyber in the danger room (IIRC)
Finally, the "new" Cyber suffered a heart attack after having a strong advantage over Wolverine.

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#29  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
The last one happened in Origins?
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#30  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

Correct.

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#31  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator


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It continues to go downhill from there for Wolverine...But then Cyber comes to realize his new body has a "bad heart" and natrually he cannot continue to fight.

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#32  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Yes, I remember that part.
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#33  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

I wish I had scans (or could find) of his other encounters.