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Kratos is equipped with atlas quake,blade of the gods and hermes boots

Kenpachi is using his deadly kendo style the battle take place in the dessert WHO WINS ?

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#2  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

Kratos has better feats

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Kratos has better feats

Like what? When has kratos sliced through a building with slice of his blade?

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#4  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

@those_eyes: Ah, hmm.

Killing the Olympian gods comes to mind.

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Kenny moves way too fast for Kratos IMO

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@those_eyes: Ah, hmm.

Killing the Olympian gods comes to mind.

Not once did kratos one shot an Olympian god or titan by slicing it in half with one swing. Kenpachi is on another level almost compared to kratos.

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Kenny enjoys a great fight and comes out on top Kratos has great stregth i will grant you but Kenny has a more stable output in damage and a better range attack ( can't believe i said that) not to mention he can negate Kratos magic by flying

Kenny can also break out his shki and one shot

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Base Kenny would be a good match but Shikai should stomp

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@colliderz: At this point, is there even a difference?

Base Kenpachi takes an easy win.

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Nopenopenope. Why is Kenpachi using his Kendo style? It's meant for strength, not speed. Kratos may be lacking in other departments, but strength is not one of them. Kenpachi shouldn't be trying to overpower Kratos. I want to say Kenpachi wins, but not under these conditions.

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Kratos could take Kenpachi I give it to Kratos.

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Kenpachi cuts through him like A Meteor.

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@linsanel_doctor: so when did kratos one shot through a lot of stuff like kenpachi did ?

has kratos one shotted a bigass meteor ?

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Kenpachi stomps. I sorta hate Video Game characters. All their feats are literally all Plot.

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Kenpachi.

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@106me: Thats not true? So if the game requires for you to bust the planet to beat the boss that doesn't count for Plot?

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@justsomerandomkid: Actually, you're partially correct and partially incorrect. No, they do not get their powers coincidently by plot. Yes, the plot is influenced by the powers/abilities that the character receives. It makes the game more fun that way.

I could talk about how nearly every god d*mn manga in history has a story where the main hero becomes the most powerful character and receives abilities by plot. Manga can be so utterly generic at times.

I could also talk about how comic books rewrite the same effing story twenty times over because every ounce of innovation is poured into used up characters, too.

Every form of media has it's faults, but there's no need to go around insulting it in a way that could cause problems.

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@106me: I said nothing about powers or abilities. In games like Infamous you can choose your own powers regardless of plot. I was talking about the FEATS they get. Feats such as planet busting or star busting is incredibly easy to do when the plot gives you a health bar and says you have to kill/destroy this to get to the next stage of the game.

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@106me: Video Game feats: 50% Plot - 50% You.

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Is Kratos Continent level? Didn't think so.

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#26  Edited By Auction_Sniper

@those_eyes said:

@linsanel_doctor said:

@those_eyes: Ah, hmm.

Killing the Olympian gods comes to mind.

Not once did kratos one shot an Olympian god or titan by slicing it in half with one swing. Kenpachi is on another level almost compared to kratos.

He one-shotted Perses; cut through Cronos like butter, both, who are mountain-sized. Kratos is faster, stronger, has faster reactions, and is more durable.

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Strength yes in h2h combat kratos would be stronger yes but in a real battle hell no

the titian is not Montain size if anything he is about as big as your average Gilligan

Kratos faster hell no kenny can keep up with Byakuya in combat he can dance circles around Kratos

Now lets go into weapons

the blade of the gods i'm assuming has been shrunk down to normal size or Kratos can't use it and even if it has Kenny should be able to cut though it with relative ease as it was taking damage from the fight betwine Kratos and the sister of the past

Atlas quake Kenny can doge by going up adn staying there

the boots barly make him a bit faster and only in straight lines Kenny will have a field day with that

and of course Kenny can one shot as Kratos has a notoriously hard time with staby things

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Kenpachi is a million times slower then Byakuya

And until recently he had no Shunpo

Shikai Ichigo (Arc rescue) wrecked Kenpachi

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@linsanel_doctor: He still has no shunpou.

Doesn't mean he doesn't beat Kratos rather easily.

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#31  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

Lol, keep bringing up the Meteor thing

So insignificant to the guy who outmuscled the Big Titan

Who carried a continent

You Kenpachi lovers must be disappointed

He should be overpowered right

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@cjdavis103 said:

@auction_sniper:

Strength yes in h2h combat kratos would be stronger yes but in a real battle hell no

the titian is not Montain size if anything he is about as big as your average Gilligan

Kratos faster hell no kenny can keep up with Byakuya in combat he can dance circles around Kratos

Now lets go into weapons

the blade of the gods i'm assuming has been shrunk down to normal size or Kratos can't use it and even if it has Kenny should be able to cut though it with relative ease as it was taking damage from the fight betwine Kratos and the sister of the past

Atlas quake Kenny can doge by going up adn staying there

the boots barly make him a bit faster and only in straight lines Kenny will have a field day with that

and of course Kenny can one shot as Kratos has a notoriously hard time with staby things

Strength yes in h2h combat kratos would be stronger yes but in a real battle hell no

In a real battle? What?

the titian is not Montain size if anything he is about as big as your average Gilligan

He's around the same size as Cronos, who's as big as a mountain.

Kratos faster hell no kenny can keep up with Byakuya in combat he can dance circles around Kratos

Yes, he is faster. Kratos can keep up with Zeus/Helios.

the blade of the gods i'm assuming has been shrunk down to normal size or Kratos can't use it

What?

and even if it has Kenny should be able to cut though it with relative ease as it was taking damage from the fight betwine Kratos and the sister of the past

Canonically, they never destroyed the sword.

Atlas quake Kenny can doge by going up adn staying there

Ah, so he's running from Kratos.

the boots barly make him a bit faster and only in straight lines Kenny will have a field day with that

Feat-wise, Kratos is faster without the need of the Boots.

and of course Kenny can one shot as Kratos has a notoriously hard time with staby things

Except for the fact the he can't and won't.

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In a real battle? What?

Kratos and kenny are not trying to punch each outher or arm wrestle each outher they are trying to cut each outher to pieces and lifting force =/= cuting force

He's around the same size as Cronos, who's as big as a mountain.

then how is he climbing up a mountain?

Yes. Kratos can keep up with Zeus/Helios.

nothing impressive from zeus in terms of speed and Helious was to fast for Kratos it took a balsta bolt blindside to slow and wound him so Kratos could beat him. the fact that a slow a$$ balsta bolt can tag Helios means he is not that impressive

What?

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I imagine that might be a bit unwieldy

Canonically, they never destroyed the sword.

no but they damaged it With a hell of a lot less force then Kenny can generate He should be able to cut clean though it

Ah, so he's running from Kratos.

the hell? no he is jumping up and waiting for his oponent to stop mucking around in the dirt and fight him like a man

Feat-wise, Kratos is faster without the need of the Boots.

again nothing that Kratos has done is the least bit impressive with speed

Except for the fact the he can't and won't.

Oh has he caught a bulding buster blade with his bare hands? by all means show me this Cuting /stabbing durabilaity feat

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1. I'm assuming this is God of War 3 Kratos, who has shown to be more durable over the course of the game.

2. Even then, Ares threw a pillar at him at hypersonic speed and he only died because he failed to move the pillar. Not to mention that Kratos was able to slow down the momentum of the pillar. Also, it failed to cut Kratos in half.

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Ares threw a pillar at him at hypersonic speed and he only died because he failed to move the pillar. Not to mention that Kratos was able to slow down the momentum of the pillar. Also, it failed to cut Kratos in half.

and Kenny fights hypersonic beings on a reqular bases and he him self is damn fast

and the proof is something so weak pirced him Kenny on the outher hand can take a hell of a lot more power than that without a scratch

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#36  Edited By Auction_Sniper

@auction_sniper:

In a real battle? What?

Kratos and kenny are not trying to punch each outher or arm wrestle each outher they are trying to cut each outher to pieces and lifting force =/= cuting force

He's around the same size as Cronos, who's as big as a mountain.

then how is he climbing up a mountain?

Yes. Kratos can keep up with Zeus/Helios.

nothing impressive from zeus in terms of speed and Helious was to fast for Kratos it took a balsta bolt blindside to slow and wound him so Kratos could beat him. the fact that a slow a$$ balsta bolt can tag Helios means he is not that impressive

What?

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I imagine that might be a bit unwieldy

Canonically, they never destroyed the sword.

no but they damaged it With a hell of a lot less force then Kenny can generate He should be able to cut clean though it

Ah, so he's running from Kratos.

the hell? no he is jumping up and waiting for his oponent to stop mucking around in the dirt and fight him like a man

Feat-wise, Kratos is faster without the need of the Boots.

again nothing that Kratos has done is the least bit impressive with speed

Except for the fact the he can't and won't.

Oh has he caught a bulding buster blade with his bare hands? by all means show me this Cuting /stabbing durabilaity feat

Kratos and kenny are not trying to punch each outher or arm wrestle each outher they are trying to cut each outher to pieces and lifting force =/= cuting force

By feats, Kenny wouldn't be able to cut through Kratos. At least, from I've seen from him.

then how is he climbing up a mountain?

Because mountains vary in size? Cronos was shown to be as big as mountain Mount Olympus was shown to be so big that it made the Titans look like humans.

nothing impressive from zeus in terms of speed and Helious was to fast for Kratos it took a balsta bolt blindside to slow and wound him so Kratos could beat him. the fact that a slow a$$ balsta bolt can tag Helios means he is not that impressive

Zeus has been shown to move at supersonic/hypersonic speeds. And no, Helios was not too fast for him.

Kratos it took a balsta bolt blindside to slow and wound him so Kratos could beat him. the fact that a slow a$$ balsta bolt can tag Helios means he is not that impressive

That was nothing more than lowshowing/PIS, as Helios was clearly shown to dodge a bolder thrown by a Titan in God of War II. Also, he is the only opponent that is shown to be able to dodge Helios' solar flare.

no but they damaged it With a hell of a lot less force then Kenny can generate He should be able to cut clean though it

It wasn't shown to be damaged. Even then, the Blade was able to take a nuke.

the hell? no he is jumping up and waiting for his oponent to stop mucking around in the dirt and fight him like a man

Okay.

again nothing that Kratos has done is the least bit impressive with speed

He has dodged Zeus' lighting bolts, which has calculated to be at Mach 4000-5000 +

Oh has he caught a bulding buster blade with his bare hands? by all means show me this Cuting /stabbing durabilaity feat

Tanking' Cronos' slap > catching a building buster blade. There's plenty of feats that show his durability, but I'll have to find the videos. I highly doubt he has the PSI and force to pierce Kratos' skin.

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@cjdavis103 said:

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Ares threw a pillar at him at hypersonic speed and he only died because he failed to move the pillar. Not to mention that Kratos was able to slow down the momentum of the pillar. Also, it failed to cut Kratos in half.

and Kenny fights hypersonic beings on a reqular bases and he him self is damn fast

and the proof is something so weak pirced him Kenny on the outher hand can take a hell of a lot more power than that without a scratch

Hypersonic beings such as?

Prove Kenny can survive the pillar being thrown at him at the speed of sound. Prove Kenny posses the strength to pierce his skin.

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@auction_sniper:

Hypersonic beings such as?

hmm Espada, Ichigo, Byakuya, several zampactos , those guys form the memories of nobody movie oh and he fought tolsen using ony the sense of his skin. Yeah kenny is far above kratos

Prove Kenny can survive the pillar being thrown at him at the speed of sound

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Takeing a bulding busting blade with ease without a scratch check

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Unfazed by a massive barrage of spears that broke apart a massive building check

powerful energy beam bitchslaped out of the air with his bare hands? Check

Now to show you just how out classed Krratos is in skill

all his senses besides touch are gone and yet he reacts to a captains blade at the time of impact

Kratos on the outer hand has almost no skill in comparison

And i still have not busted out the more impressive feats for kenpachi

Kratos is screwed

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@jeepeh: Continent "level" what?

Is modern Kenpachi not allowed?

Take this, and put the numbers into a bomb/meteor calculator.

But That's assuming that the Sereitei was only 140km. But there's legitimate calcs and statements that say that the Seretei is more like 1,000 Mi. Using that, we get:

Gremmy’s meteor calc

Radius = 0.3 the size of seirietie

= 533.333 km

Volume = 4/3 * 3.14 * R^3

=1.3*3.14*(533,333)^3

= 6.19253357E+17

mass = volume*Density

= 6.19253357E+17*2500

= 1.54813339E+21

Velocity = 2km/s (minimum ablation velocity)

KE = 0.5m(v)^2

= 0.5*1.54813339E+21*(2000)^2

= 3.09626678E+27 joules

Which is equals to 740 petatons.

Ah i messed up

The radius is 266km not 533km (that is the diameter)

So the final yield is 90 petatons

Continent+ level

And that's with his eyepatch on, with one hand.

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@jeepeh: Isee

He also got owned by a lightning chick out of negligence

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@linsanel_doctor said:

@jeepeh: Isee

He also got owned by a lightning chick out of negligence

You mean candice? Yes, his motor functions were stopped via electricity, which is very normal and not normal damage.

But you forget the fact that that instance was AFTER fighting a low tier Reality warper, having most of his bodily fluids sucked out via a vacuum, and getting hit with an enormous explosion afterwards, he mentioned that his major organs were damaged, and was punched by a girl that me and Dratini calced to be able to lift and throw over 30,000 tons,with one hand, effortlessly,

TL;DR: FINAL NUMBERS AT THE BOTTOM

I can probably help somewhat, but I have a few small, but important detail: We can't see all of the doors, at least it doesn't look like we can. There appears to be and edge on the rock, and the door is far enough away that at this angle that edge covers the base of the entrances. I also need to know what material the building and rock is made of. I'd just assume it's concrete, and the the building is made of concrete as well for simplicity. I'll make some assumptions to compensate:

  • assume we can see all of the door
  • assume the rock is uniform in mass
  • assume the building is uniform in mass
  • assume both are concrete
  • We can see all of the building and the roofs are squared off

Starting with the second scan, the door is approximately 28.3 pixels tall and 29.8 pixels wide (both are rough estimations, but accurate). The rock, from the base of the floor to the bottom is about 241.4 pixels tall, and about 564.4 pixels wide. The windows are (assuming they're uniformly cut) 42.8 tall by 9.1 wide. The building, including the roof, is 159.7 pixels tall by 377 pixels wide. The offshoot of the house is 77.1 pixels tall by 137.8 The tower, or what we can see of it, is 234.2 tall by 126.4 wide.

from here, we move onto the first scan, where the rock is shown to be 356.7 pixels wide, and 69 pixels deep. In other words, the ratio of width to depth is (69/356.7), or .193. This means the depth in the first pixel is approximately 108.93 pixels. ( .193 * 564.4 = 108.93)

Now discounting the actual jagged parts, we can see that the tower takes up this entire space, and is 50.3 pixels deep in the second scan. The house's entire side can't be seen, but what we can see is 49.2 pixels. Thus, we can assume both share a depth or 108.93 pixels

Now we can calculate the area of all of this:

  • Tower : 108.93 * 234.2 * 126.4 = 3224641.72 pixels cubed
  • House, main part: 108.93 * 159 * 377 = 6529591 pixels cubed
  • House, offshoot : 108.93 * 77.1 * 137.8 = 1157313.7 pixels cubed
  • The rock itself : 108.93 * 241.4 * 564.4 = 14841294.21 pixels cubed

Now, using the average height of a door (2.3 meters) and our measured height (28.3 pixels) we find that it's about .08 m/px, which we now square to find m^3/px^3, so 0.00054 m^3/px^3.

thus all of our volumes in meters are:

  • Tower : 3224641.72 * 0.00054 = 1741.31 m^3
  • House, main part: 6529591 * 0.00054 = 3526 m^3
  • House, offshoot : 1157313.7 * 0.00054 = 625 m^3
  • The rock itself : 14841294.21 * 0.00054 = 8014.3 m^3

now, we just multiply each one by the average density of concrete:

  • Tower : 1741.31 * 2,400 = 4179144
  • House, main part: 3526 * 2,400 = 8462400
  • House, offshoot : 625 * 2,400 = 1500000
  • The rock itself : 8014.3 * 2,400 = 19234320

Then just add up all the weight for a grand total of

33375864 Kg, or 36790.6 tons

Hope that holds some water ^_^

And it took like 3 lightning strikes, even after all that, he's still conscious,

Soooo next argument?

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@jeepeh: he's still got his eyepatch on

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#43  Edited By jeepeh

@linsanel_doctor said:

@jeepeh: he's still got his eyepatch on

That too. But he can't exactly take it off when he can't move.

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#46  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

@jeepeh: you think Kenpachi is far stronger without his eyepatch on. He hasn't shown any of that atm

Featless

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#47  Edited By jeepeh

@linsanel_doctor said:

@jeepeh: you think Kenpachi is far stronger without his eyepatch on. He hasn't shown any of that atm

Featless

.............. I never mentioned his eyepatch, you did, and he hasn't taken it off yet, but we do know that he's way more powerful with it off.

In his first appearance taking it off took him from being a strong guy with a sword to a city block leveler.

How on earth is Kenpachi featless?

But he shouldn't even need to take it off for this, unless you can show me Kratos Tanking a continent busting sword.

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#48  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

@jeepeh: #39 you mentioned his patch

And how he hasn't even taken it off

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Kenpachi currently is stronger than pre-Quincy arc. I'm looking at what he is from beginning to end.

Shikai Ichigo in the save the Rukia arc

Was not pulling building busting attacks against Kenpachi, and he still won. If anything that fight puts them both at building level busters lol

You bring up Gremmy and reality warping, but he's kind of an idiot isn't he

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@jeepeh: #39 you mentioned his patch

And how he hasn't even taken it off

Featless

Kenpachi currently is stronger than pre-Quincy arc. I'm looking at what he is from beginning to end.

Shikai Ichigo in the save the Rukia arc

Was not pulling building busting attacks against Kenpachi, and he still won. If anything that fight puts them both at building at best.

You bring up Gremmy and reality warping, but he's kind of an idiot isn't he

Whether he's an idiot or not doesn't take away the feats Kenpachi displayed.

Anyway's, I'm going with Kenpachi in a good fight.

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#50  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

@sightlessreality: Kenpachi cut him... Repeatedly

Any definite strength feats there?

He bust a meteor

Kratos beat the crap out of Titans and Gods