Kratos vs All Might

Kratos

All Might

Rounds

1. GoW 3 Kratos
2. Current Kratos

Rules

• In character
• No prep
• Win by any means except BFR
• Standard gear

Location

• Begin visible
• Begin 50 feet apart
• Fight takes place here:

Who wins and why?

All Might stomps in both rounds, this is a massive mismatch.

Yeah, that time Kratos smashed Hercules face in, he's about to know how that feels.

EDIT: Oh wait, morals on. Might still stomps except for maybe round 2, I don't know how really strong current Kratos really is.

R1: All Might one-shots

R2: Kratos gets beaten into a pulp.

Kratos might be able to nuke him round 1 if he has the Blade of Olympus.

@sy8000: He can have the blade of Olympus in round one.

Kratos r1 at least

All-Might probily both rounds.

In before “Kratos killed (fodder) Gods so he stomps”.

All Might both rounds.

Bump

actually all might cuz kratos has no counter 9/10

Kratos wins both rounds. All might is not strong enough. Speed could be a problem but kratos has beat people way faster than him.

Almight

Kratos WTF stomps

Kratos wins both rounds.

He has the durability advantages, weapons capable of killing All Might, and the endurance to last.

If Kratos fights how he works in the game, he loses both rounds.

With scaling, intent and statements, Kratos wins both rounds.

Kratos perhaps.

Hm, probs all might. Kratos would win round 1 if he ever used the blade of olympus like his old man, but i don't think he ever did. Meanwhile All might just hits harder and moves faster

Kratos wins both rounds

Kratos.

Kratos pretty easily.

Kratos solos the verse. Mismatch.

Kratos stomps

-Creates Universes

-Fodder

Choose one

Lol even strictly game mechanic nerfed Kratos solos my hero academia foh

@mcflicky said:

Agreed. Kratos wins this. Fought beings way stronger, obtained their powers [1], and has magical/divine weaponry [2] (which makes him more versatile). All might is mainly brute strength.

I don't know what all might is going to do to stop kratos he gets out maxed in every stat.

Round 1 Kratos curbs, it is not even remotely close. Even with base gear Kratos by gow3 is far above all might.

Round 2 All might makes a fight of it since Kratos has lost a step but ultimately still loses.

Kratos both rounds

Isn't Kratos on par with if not superior to Titans like Kronos and Atlas? If I remember correctly Atlas was strong enough to carry the world (which could mean universe or earth since world is a really vague term):

Or has this been debunked?

@eazy2002 said:

Isn't Kratos on par with if not superior to Titans like Kronos and Atlas? If I remember correctly Atlas was strong enough to carry the world (which could mean universe or earth since world is a really vague term):

Or has this been debunked?

Hades size is confirmed - Infinite

And Kratos fix holes in reality by raw strength

and Kratos > Zeus > Thor and Thor splintered the entire World Tree ( a tree with 9 realms on Its branches and all of space/time + all fabrics of reality ) in his battle with the world serpant

And this from GOW Writer

Kratos should win pretty easily

@light123:

Creation =/= Attack power

Creation =/= Durability

Universal to multiversal a character who flesh can still be pierced by arrows and can't even consistently Dodge lightning..

And I really hate this NERF by gameplay excuse as a way to dismiss the consistently low showings.

How do you explain Kirby how do you explain Asura wrath or bayonetta .

You know games were characters can literally crack planets knock enemies into stars and level entire continents with just their fingers? But Kratos is more powerful than all of them.. he was just limited by gameplay..Even These games all have the same kind of limitations.

smh

I never said Creation is equal to attack potential first of all

First of all , Kratos casually dodged Lightning and attacks from Helions

Second of all , Lightning doesn't move at the same speed as Both of Kratos and Zeus are unbound by space and time which is a statement coming from the word of the god .

Yes ,NERF from Gameplay does Exist , at one moment The Last Dragonborn was fightning the Final Shard of time itself and then getting tagged by a frost troll and an arrow SMH

Bayonetta is not even FTE by gameplay but lore showings far surpass FTE

Same for Asura and probably the same for Kirby

Kirby is hurt by boulders in game while he can survive black holes

Some chaarcters are more nerfed by gameplay then the others , Dante and Bayonetta in gameplay are block tier slower then sound Characters while one was able to fight the creator of the Universe/Multiverse while the other fought Mundus .

@light123: "Bayonetta is not even FTE by gameplay but lore showings far surpass FTE"

Witch time :Witch Time is the name of an ancient art used by powerful Umbra Witches to speed themselves up.

Her Being so fast that time basically stand still is literally a part of gameplay mechanics.

Same for Asura: we've seen a Asura fly at FTL speeds in space and it is a part of gameplay because this game is like 90% quick time events.

Same with Kirby. Kirby is a bit more inconsistent than the others due to of cartoon logic.

But the others are fine example of characters with the same kind of limitation is Kratos demonstrating vastly Superior Feats despite being "weaker".

Yet she doesnt display Any FTE movement in gameplay , while her lore version is as fast as you mentioned

Dante moves at visible speed in game

So does Kirby

The fact is that players could not play as a Transcended being , thats just not a thing

Goku moves at visible speeds in Dragonball fighterZ , is he not FTE as well ?

Wait a minute , i will return with some " feats "

I already proved kratos transcends space and time by word of the god , but the premordeals , who are weaker then the titans , the titans are weaker then the gods ( the gods kratos killed ) , the premordeals were capable of moving without the creation of time ( which happened with the birth of Chronoes )

Feats for Kratos

Consistently defeats Baldur, who is able to fight and knock out the World Serpent. His Leviathan Axe is stated to be equal in power to Thor's Mjolnir. The Blades of Chaos, which infuse Kratos with their power when used, are stated to be much more powerful than the Leviathan Axe and Mjolnir by Brok. Can seal Realm Tears, whichare holes in the fabric of realitythat threaten the existence of individual realms, with his rawstrength alone)

Kratos > Thor

Some of thor's feats

His first fight with the World Serpent shook all Nine Realms. Splintered the World Tree, a construct that transcends time and space in all of the realms and contains them within its branches, in his second fight with the Serpent. With help from his father, he defeated the fire giant Surtr, who, in his dying breath after said fight, swung his swordand erasedall of existence)

@light123: "Yet she doesnt display Any FTE movement in gameplay , while her lore version is as fast as you mentioned"

Again witch time is a gameplay mechanic that you can actually use in games and make time seemingly stand still due to speed.

The final boss in the final boss Asura is fast enough to traverse space. And so is Kirby via warp star.

All of these things are faster than light.

I do understand the story/ gameplay segregation but even if you want to argue that Kratos have no feet to his cutscenes either his cutscenes still has low showings...

"Goku moves at visible speeds in Dragonball fighterZ , is he not FTE as well ?"

all characters in the game has a Vanishing ability which allows you to teleport behind your enemies they refer to as instantaneous movement which is faster than the human eye.

So get even with "Nerf by gameplay " all these characters have objectively better speeds feat and Kratos. Kratos can't even consistently Dodge Lightnings in his cutscenes

I always looked at it as a hax , how about you mention the realm shifts and multiple in game time manipulation hax Kratos have in GOW4

You do know that Kratos defeated the sister of fates who look over billions of Fates/Timelines at the same time ? Or Hermes who is fast enough to run from one dimension to another ? Or the Valkyries who take souls to Valhalla ?

Kratos already dodged Helios's light attacks in gameplay

Cutscenes ?

Feats for Kratos

Consistently defeats Baldur, who is able to fight and knock out the World Serpent. His Leviathan Axe is stated to be equal in power to Thor's Mjolnir. The Blades of Chaos, which infuse Kratos with their power when used, are stated to be much more powerful than the Leviathan Axe and Mjolnir by Brok. Can seal Realm Tears, whichare holes in the fabric of realitythat threaten the existence of individual realms, with his rawstrength alone)

Kratos > Thor

Some of thor's feats

His first fight with the World Serpent shook all Nine Realms. Splintered the World Tree, a construct that transcends time and space in all of the realms and contains them within its branches, in his second fight with the Serpent. With help from his father, he defeated the fire giant Surtr, who, in his dying breath after said fight, swung his swordand erasedall of existence)

The punches e.t.c. in Dragonball games are thrown at less then FTE speeds first of all and the player would not even be able to comprehend the speed of higher tier DB characters if they are literally transitioned into the games , You think you can control a Quintillions × FTL character ( Goku ) ?

You are talking about lightning while the writer of GOW4 straight up said this

Kratos is too tanky and has too much of a variety of weaponry for All Might.

@light123: "I always looked at it as a hax , how about you mention the realm shifts and multiple in game time manipulation hax Kratos have in GOW4"

It's not a hax it's just him being able to travel the back channels of the world tree due to Invisible pathways.

"Kratos already dodged Helios's light attacks in gameplay"

Probably an outlier do to help inconsistent it is with his speed in cutscenes.

Cutscenes ? "

You know the story driven scenes that don't any involve gameplay. When it comes to cutscenes you can't use the whole limited by game place because because there are no game plays in those cutscenes.

"The punches e.t.c. in Dragonball games are thrown at less then FTE speeds first of all and the player would not even be able to comprehend the speed of higher tier DB characters if they are literally transitioned into the games , You think you can control a Quintillions × FTL character ( Goku ) ?

....... ok. But God of War had several comics and he's never been portrayed as being that strong in his, either in fact he's been shown being able to be damaged by wild animals.

Also Dragon Ball Z Fighters still Ashley has faster than light cutscenes for example with the climatic finished where Gohan defeat Broly he shoots them into the Sun but in 5 seconds proving that his Kamehameha scale for firing at least 19 times speed of light.

Ultra Instinct Goku entry scene lights up an entire galaxy. Etc.

Again even when Nerf by gameplay they still stand well above anything you see from God of War.

"His first fight with the World Serpent shook all Nine Realms. Splintered the World Tree, a construct that transcends time and space in all of the realms and contains them within its branches, in his second fight with the Serpent. With help from his father, he defeated the fire giant Surtr, who, in his dying breath after said fight, swung his swordand erasedall of existence)"

A statement and a feat are not the same thing.

Especially when you're inconsistent and what we see in characters like Kratos in the story dismiss it as being an exaggeration.

@light123: "not an outlier , how the heck is it an outlier when it is a feat , Modi is also a being that transcends space and time and he caught Kratos offguard with lightning rather then straight up"

An outlier is a feat that is completely inconsistent with the others in the series.

"pkratos holds back in the modern comics , he killed all the wolves in a blink when he got serious

I see it as the same thing as Goku getting tagged and visibly hurt by a lazer or being effected by bullets

"

Bruh....

That laser in rock or obvious emotions for go through there are outliers because we see him struggle off more damage than this.

Outlier the showings are ultimately far removed from consistent showing for both highs and lows if I care to perform a feat is way above his normal showings and it's an outlier it also goes for showings way below acharacters consistent showings as well.

People like to joke about the whole Rock laser and bullets being even though Goku has survived the entire mountains dropped on him out a scratch have had bullets bounce off from when he was a child and and withstood frieza's death beam to the face.

Kratos consists showings aren't much then what was portrayed in the comics or game cutscenes.

Just illusion that Kratos is a universal to multiversal character and it's just constantly holding back by gameplay limitation an Comic limitations.

"

@light123: "helios's light covered the entirety of Hades in few moments and Hades is infinite in size and infinite is infinitley bigger Then a Galaxy"

First of all the art designer that said Hades was infinite also said there was no gravity in there but that's obviously not true.

Hades is obviously infinite in size , its literally on GOW Fandom about the world as well and i dont see why it would not be especially when the world is a flat disk

Allmight oneshots

@light123: "it stands totally consistant from statements from the literal writer of the series and multiple feats ( like Valkyries and Hermes being fast enough to literally go from one infinite dimension to another )"

It is not consistent with any on-screen portrayals of these characters.

You can't just point at of turtle and say is going faster than light when it's clearly not.

"dont know man , contesting with likes atlas who holds an infinite realm on his shoulders , dodging Helios's light speed attacks , being confirmed to be Transcending Platonic concepts , being superior to likes of thor e.t.c."

The God of War Realms are not infinite even vs Wiki realize this is stupid which is why they got rid of all of Notions of infinite Strength and infinite speed from kratos's profile.

"Consistently defeats Baldur, who is able to fight and knock out the World Serpent. His Leviathan Axe is stated to be equal in power to Thor's Mjolnir. The Blades of Chaos, which infuse Kratos with their power when used, are stated to be much more powerful than the Leviathan Axe and Mjolnir by Brok. Can seal Realm Tears, whichare holes in the fabric of realitythat threaten the existence of individual realms, with his rawstrength alone)"

And didn't Kratos dismiss these quote-unquote Feats as exaggeration.

Baldur KO'd the world serpent on screen and there was no shaking of any kind of dimensions of any sort.

"His first fight with the World Serpent shook all Nine Realms. Splintered the World Tree, a construct that transcends time and space in all of the realms and contains them within its branches, in his second fight with the Serpent. With help from his father, he defeated the fire giant Surtr, who, in his dying breath after said fight, swung his swordand erasedall of existence)

"Fighting against beings who nesroy destroyed the entire multiverse and broke linear time is enough to solo the HST and My hero Academia"

So your argument legitimately hinges on hyperbole vs actual showings.

Yeah I'm going to place Kratos where his actually suggest he be. As well ignoring the obvious hyperbole exaggeration that are completely out of whack with his consistent showings