Dante solos quicksilver + doppelgänger venom is dead. Dante has Yamato so he can cut through anything that isn’t imbued with demonic power including space so he cuts wolverine and colossus to pieces.
Slow down time? Quicksilver, 2 Bangles of Time, and Chronoheart stacks beyond that then.
Better magic and weapons? Based in what criteria?
Healing and Immortality? Certainly takes time and becomes very debilitating to truly heal after being stabbed by a rock compared to multiple chest impalements being shrugged off.
@juiceboks: They did say composite feats and that does include Yamato and Sparda. The statement is that they have weapons that can cut through anything including dimensions.
The feat of cutting the massive monolith ( which is a hell gate ) from a large distance might already be enough if Colossus doesnt have the nescessary piercing resistance feats.
Raiden has perceived explosions in slow motion which is massively hypersonic so no Spiderman tier character comes close to him in speed. I dont think Venom can even hurt him either.
Ill post scans later. Since im on mobile, but Venom isnt on the same league.
edit: And I also dont think any Raiden debater youve debated with ever expounded his feats enough.
Lmao it seems you don't know what a composite Kratos would be like
Composite Kratos would be God Kratos wearing his God armor from Psp ghost of Sparta end game reward that makes him nigh invulnerable
DEFENSE
He becomes fully immortal
has healing factor similar to wolverine
has golden fleece and shields to deflect attacks
Can activate a short state of complete invulnerability
HAX
Can turn Dante to stone with head of Medusa gorgon head.
Can soul steal with claws of hades
Can attack Dantes soul with a God of death blast
CROWD CONTROL
Massive aoe attacks from poseidon rage,
atlas quack
Army of hades
Meteors
Hailstorm
Various Aoe freeze attacks
RANGED
Lighting bolt of Zeus
Hell fire attacks
Artemis bow
Typhoons bane
Soul blast
Fire of ares and so on
WEAPONS
Immortal killing blade of Olympus.
Blades of chaos
Gauntlet of Zeus
Leviathan axe and so on
Can even alter his size to become a giant God. Just imagine him using any of his aoe attacks in giant form. Dante would get koed from that
Dude are you serious? A composite Kratos would mop the floor with dante who's only advantage would be speed but that gets countered by Kratos time slow power ability. Even if Dante slowed time they would both be moving very slow so no speed advantage to anyone
Kratos can also wear the boot of hermes for increased speed and by being much stronger and more durable via all combined defense Kratos would stomp dante
There's a reason why Kratos isn't allowed to carry his previous ability into new game cos he would be crazy overpowered
It's like this
Normal Dante > normal Kratos but composite Kratos >>>composite Dante
@zane240: @sovngarde: Didn’t see that this was composite versions of the game characters.
Default starting distance is 15 feet which is under 5 metres. So Logan can win only if he blitzes and one-shots Kratos right away, otherwise Wolverine would most likely lose.
He has aoe attacks like poseidons rage atlas quake meteors hailstorms
He outranges wolverine with lightning bolt of Zeus Artemis bow typhoons bane, hell fire attack, soul blast etc
Dude even if wolverine were to stab current Kratos somehow... he wouldn't die. He's immortal and can heal from any injury
Get that into your head. Kratos would rip wolverine apart even if you take away his weapons and magic and gave him just his axe blades or gauntlet of Zeus
Nope, this has been debunked countless times now. Also that gif of Kratos dodging lightning is from a non-canon commercial so it can't be used.
He is immortal now
Being Immortal doesn't mean you can't be momentarily put down. In Kratos' case I don't even think he's immune to death; has he ever come back from being decapitated or brain stabbed? Has he ever come back from being stabbed in the heart? Can he regrow limbs?
He has a healing factor similar to wolverine now
No he doesn't.
He can slow time
Can you show me Kratos doing this? Also I said that Wolverine can only win if he starts close to Kratos so that he can blitz before Kratos can use any of his exotic powers.
He has his God armor
Which Wolverine's claws will easily go through, just like they went through Thing, Gladiator, Hulk, Thor, WWH, Mangog and Thanos.
He has aoe attacks like poseidons rage atlas quake meteors hailstorms
He outranges wolverine with lightning bolt of Zeus Artemis bow typhoons bane, hell fire attack, soul blast etc
Again, I said that Wolverine can only win if he starts close to Kratos so that he can blitz before Kratos can use any of his exotic powers.
Dude even if wolverine were to stab current Kratos somehow... he wouldn't die. He's immortal and can heal from any injury
Show me Kratos tanking decapitation, a brain/heart stab or regrowing limbs.
Get that into your head. Kratos would rip wolverine apart even if you take away his weapons and magic and gave him just his axe blades or gauntlet of Zeus
Nonsense, If Kratos only had his melee weapons Wolverine would win regardless of the range as he's faster, more skilled, can take Kratos' attacks and can one-shot him. Also good luck ripping apart Wolverine's adamantium skeleton when Hulk tried and failed to.
@jay_z94: Kratos can avoid point blank explosions, and with the boots of Hermes is massively faster than before going by what is shown in the comics, and can tag people who are mach speed (Persephone, Erinys)
For the record i'm not saying Kratos is faster, but hes fast enough to not get blitzed.
Nope, this has been debunked countless times now. Also that gif of Kratos dodging lightning is from a non-canon commercial so it can't be used.
He is immortal now
Being Immortal doesn't mean you can't be momentarily put down. In Kratos' case I don't even think he's immune to death; has he ever come back from being decapitated or brain stabbed? Has he ever come back from being stabbed in the heart? Can he regrow limbs?
He has a healing factor similar to wolverine now
No he doesn't.
He can slow time
Can you show me Kratos doing this? Also I said that Wolverine can only win if he starts close to Kratos so that he can blitz before Kratos can use any of his exotic powers.
He has his God armor
Which Wolverine's claws will easily go through, just like they went through Thing, Gladiator, Hulk, Thor, WWH, Mangog and Thanos.
He has aoe attacks like poseidons rage atlas quake meteors hailstorms
He outranges wolverine with lightning bolt of Zeus Artemis bow typhoons bane, hell fire attack, soul blast etc
Again, I said that Wolverine can only win if he starts close to Kratos so that he can blitz before Kratos can use any of his exotic powers.
Dude even if wolverine were to stab current Kratos somehow... he wouldn't die. He's immortal and can heal from any injury
Show me Kratos tanking decapitation, a brain/heart stab or regrowing limbs.
Get that into your head. Kratos would rip wolverine apart even if you take away his weapons and magic and gave him just his axe blades or gauntlet of Zeus
Nonsense, If Kratos only had his melee weapons Wolverine would win regardless of the range as he's faster, more skilled, can take Kratos' attacks and can one-shot him. Also good luck ripping apart Wolverine's adamantium skeleton when Hulk tried and failed to.
when did they cut through mangog?
btw about healing factor he survived after impaling himself in gow3 ending
well it kinda wasn't in the heart but does that count?
First of all, Kratos is unable to avoid the initial flash as we clearly see him standing there.
Secondly, the actual explosion is telegraphed by a good 5 seconds, giving Kratos more than enough time to jump out of the building.
People always bring this feat up and I cannot for the life of me see why it's so impressive.
and with the boots of Hermes is massively faster than before going by what is shown in the comics, and can tag people who are mach speed (Persephone, Erinys)
Can you show me his speed feats with Boots of Hermes. Also how are they mach speed?
For the record i'm not saying Kratos is faster, but hes fast enough to not get blitzed.
That's fair, but as far as I'm aware, the boots amp your travelling/combat speed and not reaction speed.
Wolverine wouldn't dance around Kratos, but it's fair to assume that Logan would get in the first hit, which could one-shot Kratos.
I'm only arguing that Logan beats composite Kratos if he starts close to him, otherwise Kratos would be able to subdue Logan with his more exotic powers/gear and essentially have his way with him.
Here, he stabs him in the bottom left panel and you can see blood splatters:
btw about healing factor he survived after impaling himself in gow3 ending
But he still fell unconscious, which would give Wolverine the win. Wolverine can "survive" all of his flesh being vaporised, but he can still be put down by less. His HF is no way near Wolverine level.
well it kinda wasn't in the heart but does that count?
Well, being stabbed in the heart is much worse than being stabbed in the stomach lol
This is a vastly weaker version of Kratos to boot.
As for the Hermes feat.
He basically runs past the horizon and back. Persephone and Erinys both show the capacity to fly to cloud level in seconds, and Kratos was capable of tagging both while they were flying.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qf7KQZ3zXHE
4:55
And after around a minute it displays the speed I was talking about.
Logan could one shot him, but he has to get a direct headshot before Kratos grows in size, anything other than someone that is instantly lethal Kratos can heal from thanks to ambroisa, and he has a insane pain tolerance.
Here, he stabs him in the bottom left panel and you can see blood splatters:
btw about healing factor he survived after impaling himself in gow3 ending
But he still fell unconscious, which would give Wolverine the win. Wolverine can "survive" all of his flesh being vaporised, but he can still be put down by less. His HF is no way near Wolverine level.
well it kinda wasn't in the heart but does that count?
Well, being stabbed in the heart is much worse than being stabbed in the stomach lol
This is a vastly weaker version of Kratos to boot.
Oh man...
First of all, that guy was very far from Kratos, how you can say that's point blank is beyond me. Secondly, we don't know if he evaded it or was blown back. Thirdly, the attack was heavily telegraphed due to the guy lifting is hand like that with energy around it.
As for the Hermes feat.
He basically runs past the horizon and back.
Yeah that's great travelling speed I guess but it's not really quantifiable. Also I'm not sure how that's applicable here, as in I don't think it will help him react to an FTE blitz from Logan.
Persephone and Erinys both show the capacity to fly to cloud level in seconds, and Kratos was capable of tagging both while they were flying.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qf7KQZ3zXHE
4:55
And after around a minute it displays the speed I was talking about.
The scaling that people do to get Kratos feats honestly blows my mind.
Do you honestly think that the bird's speed was even remotely impressive at the time that Kratos tagged it? Because it clearly wasn't moving at the same speed that it was when it flew to the clouds.
This is the equivalent of me saying "Thor has MFTL combat speed, because he tagged Silver Surfer who has flown MFTL". Add onto this the fact that Wolverine has blitzed Thor in H2H and we can see how this argument is made completely redundant.
Logan could one shot him, but he has to get a direct headshot before Kratos grows in size, anything other than someone that is instantly lethal Kratos can heal from thanks to ambroisa, and he has a insane pain tolerance.
Can you show me Kratos tanking a heart stab? Or growing back limbs?
If wolverine got close to Kratos he gets frozen and head gets taken off
Gets blasted with poseidons rage which is an aoe attack
Kratos activates a state of complete invulnerability ignoring all attacks
And lol at wolverine blades going through God armor
The armor is enchanted by magic its not just some hard steel that can be cut. When has wolverine cut magic steel enchanted by God's?
Get it into your head that Kratos is immortal, a stab to any part of his body isn't doing crap
And if wolverine gets in melee range it's him who would be at the receiving end as Kratos is far stronger and has a more versatile weapon that would wreck wolverine
This is a gameplay video of the new game which shows some of Kratos abilities gameplay wise
If wolverine got close to Kratos he gets frozen and head gets taken off
If Wolverine got close and just paused, then yeah sure your fantasy would work. Most likely though, Logan takes Kratos' head off due to being faster.
Even if Wolverine let him, Kratos would be unable to take off his head due to his adamantium skeleton.
Gets blasted with poseidons rage which is an aoe attack
Logan would stab kratos before he can do this.
Kratos activates a state of complete invulnerability ignoring all attacks
Show me Kratos becoming invulnerable.
And lol at wolverine blades going through God armor
The armor is enchanted by magic its not just some hard steel that can be cut. When has wolverine cut magic steel enchanted by God's?
A God's enchantment means nothing if the God isn't that powerful in the first place. Logan's claws will easily go through it as it's gone through much more durable people. Can you prove that Kratos with the armour is more durable than people like Thanos, Mangog, WWH, Thor, etc.
Get it into your head that Kratos is immortal, a stab to any part of his body isn't doing crap
Show me Kratos tanking a brain/heart stab, decapitation or regrowing limbs.
And if wolverine gets in melee range it's him who would be at the receiving end as Kratos is far stronger and has a more versatile weapon that would wreck wolverine
Nope, Wolverine is faster and more skilled so he one-shots.
This is a gameplay video of the new game which shows some of Kratos abilities gameplay wise
https://youtu.be/KJ5v8SwxfJc
These won't help Kratos when he's been one-shotted.
You clearly don't know much about Kratos or haven't played the games no wonder you post so much bull crap
Show me feats for wolverine cutting enchanted Armour if you can't then stop posting trash. Cutting a skin and an enchanted metal are two different things
Saying wolverine is fast enough to Blitz Kratos is laughable considering he swings those weapons faster than wolverine could ever hope to replicate and has deflected lighting and fought beings who moves faster than wolverine
Oh and saying wolverine stabs Kratos faster than he activates poseidons rage shows how clueless you are because that's you saying wolverine is faster than lightning cos poseidons rage is direct lightning from the sky incase you don't know
As if that's not enough Kratos has a shield and frikking golden fleece to defend against wolverine attacks too
If you don't know when Kratos becomes fully invulnerable then why am I debating with one who knows pretty much nothing about Kratos abilities , no wonder you post such shitty comments lol
You don't seem to understand that wolverine fighting Kratos is like fighting one with similar healing factor who is far stronger with far better weapons, hax and overall gear
Wolverine is fodder to Kratos, he wouldn't even register as a boss in a God of War game
You clearly don't know much about Kratos or haven't played the games no wonder you post so much bull crap
Show me feats for wolverine cutting enchanted Armour if you can't then stop posting trash. Cutting a skin and an enchanted metal are two different things
Prove that Kratos' armour is more durable than Thor or Thanos.
Saying wolverine is fast enough to Blitz Kratos is laughable considering he swings those weapons faster than wolverine could ever hope to replicate
Not really.
and has deflected lighting
Debunked, he put his hand up after getting hit.
and fought beings who moves faster than wolverine
Show me who he has beaten that is faster than Wolverine. Hermes was mocking him whilst moving at speeds that street levellers would laugh at.
Oh and saying wolverine stabs Kratos faster than he activates poseidons rage shows how clueless you are because that's you saying wolverine is faster than lightning cos poseidons rage is direct lightning from the sky incase you don't know
No I'm not saying Logan is faster than lightning, I'm saying that Logan one-shots Kratos before he can conjure it, there's a difference.
As if that's not enough Kratos has a shield and frikking golden fleece to defend against wolverine attacks too
What feats do they have?
If you don't know when Kratos becomes fully invulnerable then why am I debating with one who knows pretty much nothing about Kratos abilities , no wonder you post such shitty comments lol
Do you know everything about Wolverine? I know you don't, so why are you debating against him? Don't accuse me when you yourself are just as guilty.
Show me Kratos becoming invulnerable.
You don't seem to understand that wolverine fighting Kratos is like fighting one with similar healing factor
His HF is no where near Wolverine's HF. You still need to show me Kratos healing from decapitation, a brain/heart stab or chopped off limbs.
who is far stronger with far better weapons, hax and overall gear
Kratos won't have the chance to use these as he'll be one-shotted.
Wolverine is fodder to Kratos, he wouldn't even register as a boss in a God of War game
You're right, because Logan would be OP in the GOW universe ;)
First of all, that guy was very far from Kratos, how you can say that's point blank is beyond me. Secondly, we don't know if he evaded it or was blown back. Thirdly, the attack was heavily telegraphed due to the guy lifting is hand like that with energy around it."
Alright it wasn't very close, but it wasn't more tha 15-20 feet away, so the distance is negligable compared to the speed of a Explosion.
You can see in the second scan he has his back turned to the explosion and is grabbing onto a branch and can pretty clearly see his face if you zoom in.
Raising his hand could mean any number of things, turning his back and running from a being that can shoot beams of fire isn't very smart. It could give him a warning that something was gonna happen, but not what he could be doing.
"Yeah that's great travelling speed I guess but it's not really quantifiable. Also I'm not sure how that's applicable here, as in I don't think it will help him react to an FTE blitz from Logan."
Hermes would have to have been able to react to his speed to a extent in order to navigate past mountains and collect his drinks and come back.
"The scaling that people do to get Kratos feats honestly blows my mind.
Do you honestly think that the bird's speed was even remotely impressive at the time that Kratos tagged it? Because it clearly wasn't moving at the same speed that it was when it flew to the clouds.
This is the equivalent of me saying "Thor has MFTL combat speed, because he tagged Silver Surfer who has flown MFTL". Add onto this the fact that Wolverine has blitzed Thor in H2H and we can see how this argument is made completely redundant."
Yeah, its not going to be displaying mach speed when your supposed to be able to tag it and react to it in game. But Kratos in canon was tagging and catching a being that could fly at such speeds.
But anyway Kratos was also capable of tagging the Griffens that were keeping up with his Pegasus, which flew from Rhodes to Sicily within minutes. He also could react to bullrushes from Hippocampi, which could shoot straight up mount olympus in seconds.
His HF is no where near Wolverine's HF. You still need to show me Kratos healing from decapitation, a brain/heart stab or chopped off limbs.
when did Wolverine healed for these? about decapitation I only remember him surviving this in the ultimate universe
I brought those things up to see if kratos could heal from them, that wasn't a direct comparison to Logan's HF. But from feats we can easily deduce that Logan's HF is superior.
Logan himself hasn't healed from them because he has an adamantium skeleton. But there's no reason to why he shouldn't be able to. He has regrown his bone claws multiple times when he didn't have adamantium and has healed from having his flesh vaporised to the bone, so clearly he should be able to. Old Man Logan has regrown his hand though. There's also a statement of Logan coming back from decapitation in a story that was set in WW2.
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