Poll Kratos (God of war) {Mythology lore scaling} vs Thor (Marvel comics) {616} (32 votes)
Kratos with the lore scaling wins 22%
616 thor wins 78%
Kratos (God of war) {Mythology lore scaling} vs Thor (Marvel comics) {616}
Current King Thor is much stronger than the overrated trash that is Herald Thor. He was able to defeat Galactus by taking control of his power against his will, so ignoring the connection between the Power Cosmic and the Odin Force, Herald Thor hadn‘t really shown any other impressive feat in his short-lived run. Instead, it has been implied that Thor was able to maintain his stances during most of the fights because of his kingship or the Odin Force, which serves under the commands of the King of Asgard.
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An artificial demon known as Desmond Pitt appeared on Asgard, infected by an infant symbiote emerging from Bedlam, and started fighting it saw. After awhile it reached into itself and discovered an extremely powerful magical composition that its body contained, known as Promethium.
Promethium is explained by Doctor Voodoo, Sy’m, and other demons in Limbo to be the core of their universes, and a very powerful element. A small shard of it can make multiple universes known as The Splinter Realms disappear temporarily as it is removed from where it belongs, and has been stated to have inflicted an immense pain on Ares who happened to beat Beta Ray Bill who was imbued with the power of the elder god Surtur in the same book.
Upon accessing the mineral in the bones of Desmond Pitt, the Death Demon, the infant symbiote crafted a Limbo Mjolnir out of it.
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It continued to attack Thor and his friends and brother with its Mjolnir and while they were fighting Sif, a younger sister to Heimdall and the current All-Seer of Asgard, who has the ability to gaze into almost everything, even thoughts as she said it herself that being the All-Seer she could even read Thor’s mind despite his status as the All-father, made a remark that the power that Desmond was attacking Thor with was the totality of the dark power of Limbo itself.
The battle then appeared to be won by Thor as Eddie Brock offered to help him fight, but Eddie wasn’t the Eddie that we used to know. He has finally reached the height of his power and completely evolved into the god known as Meridius, a being beyond time and space and a King-in-Black that is what Knull was, an ascended, nihilistic elder god with a complete control over his power. It was at that moment everyone realised the conflict was not as it was seen at the surface. Meridius simply tricked everyone into playing his game and fighting Desmond so that it would copy Thor’s fighting style and craft a Mjolnir of its own and that he might then claim the Promethium hammer for himself and become more powerful.
Meridius is the final stage of what may ever become of King-in-Black Venom. He is an inevitable future of Eddie Brock, a King-in-Black that will manifest out of the being who has claimed the power. By definition, Meridius should be at least half as strong as Knull if not completely equal to him because of their absolute similarities.
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Knull is omnipotent being incapable of being felled with conventional means. In his time, the Symbiote race was mindless and serving him the same way as the limbs move when the brain commands it, and that time came back through the ascension of Meridius who ate their sentiences and took over the entire host as its supreme God as was Knull.
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Meridius then introduced himself and blasted Thor with Limbo Mjolnir’s hellfire, and said that he was going to absorb the Promethium inside of the hammer as it was a dark matter similar to symbiote substances. And Thor, reminded by Meridius that he has felt the power of Limbo Mjolnir and should have known that he was in big trouble and shouldn’t have continued to fight to bother hurting himself further, also reminded Meridius that though it was true that he was hurt by his hammer Meridius himself hadn’t really tasted his(Thor’s) power either. Odin then offered to help him fight but Thor put Mjolnir down and stated that it was his fight and then proceeded to blast Meridius who, though blocking the attack with the Limbo Mjolnir before it really got to hit his face, was whining like a little bitch and finally admitted that Thor won and beat his ass into submission like a true alpha. That was a Knull level being holding a hammer that required two omnipotent gods and one All-Seer to be tricked into fighting a demon for it to be created, had the power to save the wielder‘s future as addressed by Meridius himself after he got hold of the hammer, and was likely even more powerful than the King in Black who wielded it, and yet he still got beat up by Thor badly and had that same almighty sinister hammer dissolved into jello. Thor formerly lost to Knull in the comic book series known as King in Black, before he was given the totality of the Odin Force. This shows how much Thor has grown since then.
Thor without the full Odin Force was an Odin level being and would beat up everyone in God of War easily, which means that a battle involving him and any God of War character would be pointless. Him, at his most powerful state, would make it even more of a clown show.
Even without that much power he would still curbstomp them all with very little effort seeing as they got hurt from falling rocks and ice cubes and stuff, and they are still too slow to catch up with him anyway.
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Odin was able to react to and block an attack by the spirit of Mjolnir itself, who was so fast it could travel back through an infinite distance, from a place that hasn’t even been discovered by the elder gods which would include both the Celestials, broke the First Firmament and constructed the current multiverse we know, and Shuma Gorath whose realm is at the edge of the omniverse itself, as it was too far away, before the father and son even finished their conversation, and Odin was absorbed into Thor to the point that his body wasn’t even left around to be cremated at his own funeral.
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He was GONE, utterly, into Thor. This would mean that anything he was capable of was absorbed into Thor including that incredible speed feat he performed while being left with just enough power to stay alive.
Thor also has a fair share of his own speed feats.
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He could communicate his message while his hammer was travelling through at least 10 universes.
He was able to instantly send his crows to meet with Silver Surfer who was surfing in space to Earth at that time and is telepathically connected to the crows through the Odin Force, meaning that brain is able to function at that speed.
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Too fast and strong, for anyone in God of War to even hit him, let alone beat him.
The God of War characters are also not beating the Hulk Thor.
Here is why.
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He was able to utterly beat up the child persona of Hulk to the point he lost his consciousness and was crying, and was about to end his life, as stated by Odin a feat that sounds impossible in itself due to the latter’s connection to The One Below All, but was about to be made possible by this gamma-corrupted Thor as Bruce Banner, who is Hulk himself and who knows damn well what the Green Door is and how it connects him to hell and gives Hulk immortality, didn‘t correct Odin’s ghost at all. This means that he transcends death itself and can rival The One Above All’s Hulk in power, because just his fists were able to passively override the function of the Green Door as they pounded on The Hulk.
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He was also super utterly impossibly strong he smashed the entire new Bifrost Bridge, not the old one destroyed by Mangog, and shattered it completely which was confirmed to be 100% true as Sif broke her tears about it. Sif, wielding Heimdall’s sword and having his eyes, knew every inch of it and was able to even navigate it to counter attacks from Thor and drop Mjolnir in that graveyard realm, so her words are canonical evidence.
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The destruction of the new bridge was so detrimental Thor couldn’t fix it alone and had to call Loki in for assistance and even Loki, the God of Stories, who controls all narratives and was capable of putting a Beyonder in a box, was unable to fix it after having tried for hours to the point he gave up and suggested upgrading Earth‘s technologies to replace it.
The new bridge could stretch into LITERAL infinities as seen in the lower image and the graveyard realm feat.
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The influence of the new bridge also extended beyond time itself. An alien creature named Valg who belongs to a race of extradimensional parasites, similar to Hunger, who could corrupt Galactus’ mind and needed the Infinity Stones to just transport itself and its immense power to the next realities, branched Thor’s past timelines into a whole other new universe where the endings for Thor‘s major events were altered. He fucked parallel Thor’s life so badly that alternate version of Thor became the worst of what he could have become and grew up into Thor Bor-kin, but as Bor-kin began to fight Odinson, he would prove no match to the real Thor, and was shown mercy by him when the latter summoned the Bifrost to send him home and give him a freshstart after he learnt how life should have been had it not been utterly fucked up by Valg from the start, which means that he must have been sent back in time.
Additionally, to make the feat even more impressive I have added the second image where Valg appeared in and was introducing Bor-kin to Thor, because in the same image he outright stated that Bor-kin was going to destroy his universe completely. That would mean that the Bifrost did not just transcend time to alter a history of someone but also took away a universe destroying power via its time alteration hax as well.
And yet, Hulk Thor crushed it completely it was irreparable by both All-father Thor and God of Stories Loki even after they tried for hours.
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Hulk became worthy through the approval of Odin later in the run and fought Thor again after he got beat up earlier but it would prove futile, still, as Thor tore his arm off and made him groan in pain as seen in the second image.
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The battle would rage on as Thor unleashed his hundreds of years of wrath on the surroundings, to the point Odin lost it and came to the conclusion that they needed to push him to The World Tree, to let all the elder gods, which would include the Gods of gods that created and and fed off of the thread cycle of Ragnarok and the cosmic entities, channel their powers through all the realms, even those unknown to him, the all knowing, omnipotent All-father of Asgard. Eventually all the power of the multiverse, as the Yggdrasil itself was the manifestation of the whole multiverse or creation into a form of a tree, was spent in binding Thor but it failed.
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During the King in Black event Doctor Strange was compromised by Knull‘s Symbiote constructs and trapped unconscious in a dome, so Black Cat had to go rescue him out and during her trip she ended up with sleeping Strange, his Yggdrasil staff and so many Symbiote dragons following her so she ended up using the staff to transform herself into an Asgardian goddess during which her body automatically acted on its own and her subconsciousness was pulled into a mindscape. The Yggdrasil magic turned out to be sentient and spoke to her in a mindscape, while it was in a form of a man, inside of her and stated that it was THE POWER OF CREATION ITSELF. The statement was true as Felicia, though being tempted by that power, addressed that she had all the stars in the universe burning in her blood. This adds a massive layer into the feat if you look at it the way I do.
Thor then tore The World Tree, the physical manifestation of the multiverse itself, which was consistently stated to be as such ever since the time Seth tried to destroy the multiverse and all the Asgardians back in the classic days, in half and leaving everyone shocked and no one to stop him.
Hulk then stated that should it have continued, the multiverse would have been destroyed, and they were out of hopes and stopped fighting and tried to talk to him nicely instead.
Credit to @abbottforpres. Current King Thor one-shots the entire GoW Universe. Not even close.
Can anyone provide a higher Kratos scale than this?
@fenrisulven said:
Current King Thor is much stronger than the overrated trash that is Herald Thor. He was able to defeat Galactus by taking control of his power against his will, so ignoring the connection between the Power Cosmic and the Odin Force, Herald Thor hadn‘t really shown any other impressive feat in his short-lived run. Instead, it has been implied that Thor was able to maintain his stances during most of the fights because of his kingship or the Odin Force, which serves under the commands of the King of Asgard.
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An artificial demon known as Desmond Pitt appeared on Asgard, infected by an infant symbiote emerging from Bedlam, and started fighting it saw. After awhile it reached into itself and discovered an extremely powerful magical composition that its body contained, known as Promethium.
Promethium is explained by Doctor Voodoo, Sy’m, and other demons in Limbo to be the core of their universes, and a very powerful element. A small shard of it can make multiple universes known as The Splinter Realms disappear temporarily as it is removed from where it belongs, and has been stated to have inflicted an immense pain on Ares who happened to beat Beta Ray Bill who was imbued with the power of the elder god Surtur in the same book.
Upon accessing the mineral in the bones of Desmond Pitt, the Death Demon, the infant symbiote crafted a Limbo Mjolnir out of it.
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It continued to attack Thor and his friends and brother with its Mjolnir and while they were fighting Sif, a younger sister to Heimdall and the current All-Seer of Asgard, who has the ability to gaze into almost everything, even thoughts as she said it herself that being the All-Seer she could even read Thor’s mind despite his status as the All-father, made a remark that the power that Desmond was attacking Thor with was the totality of the dark power of Limbo itself.
The battle then appeared to be won by Thor as Eddie Brock offered to help him fight, but Eddie wasn’t the Eddie that we used to know. He has finally reached the height of his power and completely evolved into the god known as Meridius, a being beyond time and space and a King-in-Black that is what Knull was, an ascended, nihilistic elder god with a complete control over his power. It was at that moment everyone realised the conflict was not as it was seen at the surface. Meridius simply tricked everyone into playing his game and fighting Desmond so that it would copy Thor’s fighting style and craft a Mjolnir of its own and that he might then claim the Promethium hammer for himself and become more powerful.
Meridius is the final stage of what may ever become of King-in-Black Venom. He is an inevitable future of Eddie Brock, a King-in-Black that will manifest out of the being who has claimed the power. By definition, Meridius should be at least half as strong as Knull if not completely equal to him because of their absolute similarities.
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Knull is omnipotent being incapable of being felled with conventional means. In his time, the Symbiote race was mindless and serving him the same way as the limbs move when the brain commands it, and that time came back through the ascension of Meridius who ate their sentiences and took over the entire host as its supreme God as was Knull.
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Meridius then introduced himself and blasted Thor with Limbo Mjolnir’s hellfire, and said that he was going to absorb the Promethium inside of the hammer as it was a dark matter similar to symbiote substances. And Thor, reminded by Meridius that he has felt the power of Limbo Mjolnir and should have known that he was in big trouble and shouldn’t have continued to fight to bother hurting himself further, also reminded Meridius that though it was true that he was hurt by his hammer Meridius himself hadn’t really tasted his(Thor’s) power either. Odin then offered to help him fight but Thor put Mjolnir down and stated that it was his fight and then proceeded to blast Meridius who, though blocking the attack with the Limbo Mjolnir before it really got to hit his face, was whining like a little bitch and finally admitted that Thor won and beat his ass into submission like a true alpha. That was a Knull level being holding a hammer that required two omnipotent gods and one All-Seer to be tricked into fighting a demon for it to be created, had the power to save the wielder‘s future as addressed by Meridius himself after he got hold of the hammer, and was likely even more powerful than the King in Black who wielded it, and yet he still got beat up by Thor badly and had that same almighty sinister hammer dissolved into jello. Thor formerly lost to Knull in the comic book series known as King in Black, before he was given the totality of the Odin Force. This shows how much Thor has grown since then.
Thor without the full Odin Force was an Odin level being and would beat up everyone in God of War easily, which means that a battle involving him and any God of War character would be pointless. Him, at his most powerful state, would make it even more of a clown show.
Even without that much power he would still curbstomp them all with very little effort seeing as they got hurt from falling rocks and ice cubes and stuff, and they are still too slow to catch up with him anyway.
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Odin was able to react to and block an attack by the spirit of Mjolnir itself, who was so fast it could travel back through an infinite distance, from a place that hasn’t even been discovered by the elder gods which would include both the Celestials, broke the First Firmament and constructed the current multiverse we know, and Shuma Gorath whose realm is at the edge of the omniverse itself, as it was too far away, before the father and son even finished their conversation, and Odin was absorbed into Thor to the point that his body wasn’t even left around to be cremated at his own funeral.
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He was GONE, utterly, into Thor. This would mean that anything he was capable of was absorbed into Thor including that incredible speed feat he performed while being left with just enough power to stay alive.
Thor also has a fair share of his own speed feats.
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He could communicate his message while his hammer was travelling through at least 10 universes.
He was able to instantly send his crows to meet with Silver Surfer who was surfing in space to Earth at that time and is telepathically connected to the crows through the Odin Force, meaning that brain is able to function at that speed.
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Too fast and strong, for anyone in God of War to even hit him, let alone beat him.
The God of War characters are also not beating the Hulk Thor.
Here is why.
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He was able to utterly beat up the child persona of Hulk to the point he lost his consciousness and was crying, and was about to end his life, as stated by Odin a feat that sounds impossible in itself due to the latter’s connection to The One Below All, but was about to be made possible by this gamma-corrupted Thor as Bruce Banner, who is Hulk himself and who knows damn well what the Green Door is and how it connects him to hell and gives Hulk immortality, didn‘t correct Odin’s ghost at all. This means that he transcends death itself and can rival The One Above All’s Hulk in power, because just his fists were able to passively override the function of the Green Door as they pounded on The Hulk.
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He was also super utterly impossibly strong he smashed the entire new Bifrost Bridge, not the old one destroyed by Mangog, and shattered it completely which was confirmed to be 100% true as Sif broke her tears about it. Sif, wielding Heimdall’s sword and having his eyes, knew every inch of it and was able to even navigate it to counter attacks from Thor and drop Mjolnir in that graveyard realm, so her words are canonical evidence.
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The destruction of the new bridge was so detrimental Thor couldn’t fix it alone and had to call Loki in for assistance and even Loki, the God of Stories, who controls all narratives and was capable of putting a Beyonder in a box, was unable to fix it after having tried for hours to the point he gave up and suggested upgrading Earth‘s technologies to replace it.
The new bridge could stretch into LITERAL infinities as seen in the lower image and the graveyard realm feat.
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The influence of the new bridge also extended beyond time itself. An alien creature named Valg who belongs to a race of extradimensional parasites, similar to Hunger, who could corrupt Galactus’ mind and needed the Infinity Stones to just transport itself and its immense power to the next realities, branched Thor’s past timelines into a whole other new universe where the endings for Thor‘s major events were altered. He fucked parallel Thor’s life so badly that alternate version of Thor became the worst of what he could have become and grew up into Thor Bor-kin, but as Bor-kin began to fight Odinson, he would prove no match to the real Thor, and was shown mercy by him when the latter summoned the Bifrost to send him home and give him a freshstart after he learnt how life should have been had it not been utterly fucked up by Valg from the start, which means that he must have been sent back in time.
Additionally, to make the feat even more impressive I have added the second image where Valg appeared in and was introducing Bor-kin to Thor, because in the same image he outright stated that Bor-kin was going to destroy his universe completely. That would mean that the Bifrost did not just transcend time to alter a history of someone but also took away a universe destroying power via its time alteration hax as well.
And yet, Hulk Thor crushed it completely it was irreparable by both All-father Thor and God of Stories Loki even after they tried for hours.
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Hulk became worthy through the approval of Odin later in the run and fought Thor again after he got beat up earlier but it would prove futile, still, as Thor tore his arm off and made him groan in pain as seen in the second image.
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The battle would rage on as Thor unleashed his hundreds of years of wrath on the surroundings, to the point Odin lost it and came to the conclusion that they needed to push him to The World Tree, to let all the elder gods, which would include the Gods of gods that created and and fed off of the thread cycle of Ragnarok and the cosmic entities, channel their powers through all the realms, even those unknown to him, the all knowing, omnipotent All-father of Asgard. Eventually all the power of the multiverse, as the Yggdrasil itself was the manifestation of the whole multiverse or creation into a form of a tree, was spent in binding Thor but it failed.
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During the King in Black event Doctor Strange was compromised by Knull‘s Symbiote constructs and trapped unconscious in a dome, so Black Cat had to go rescue him out and during her trip she ended up with sleeping Strange, his Yggdrasil staff and so many Symbiote dragons following her so she ended up using the staff to transform herself into an Asgardian goddess during which her body automatically acted on its own and her subconsciousness was pulled into a mindscape. The Yggdrasil magic turned out to be sentient and spoke to her in a mindscape, while it was in a form of a man, inside of her and stated that it was THE POWER OF CREATION ITSELF. The statement was true as Felicia, though being tempted by that power, addressed that she had all the stars in the universe burning in her blood. This adds a massive layer into the feat if you look at it the way I do.
Thor then tore The World Tree, the physical manifestation of the multiverse itself, which was consistently stated to be as such ever since the time Seth tried to destroy the multiverse and all the Asgardians back in the classic days, in half and leaving everyone shocked and no one to stop him.
Hulk then stated that should it have continued, the multiverse would have been destroyed, and they were out of hopes and stopped fighting and tried to talk to him nicely instead.
Credit to @abbottforpres. Current King Thor one-shots the entire GoW Universe. Not even close.
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