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#1 Edited by MudHole (126 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay, so sorry if I put the contestants in wrong order of power, but here goes.

h2h & melee only.

CONTESTANTS

1. Iron Man & War Machine(Civil War)

2. Vision

3. Hela

4. Ultron

5. Captain Marvel

6. Hulk

7. Stormbreaker Thor

8. Thanos

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#2 Posted by SmokerNaruto (78 posts) - - Show Bio

movie or comic ?

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#3 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears

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#4 Posted by TheOneAboveLife (1157 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by Hypnos0929 (6660 posts) - - Show Bio

Only chance is Vision. Other than him they all get beaten to death

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#6 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (4735 posts) - - Show Bio

He kills them all.

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#7 Posted by Green_Tea (10529 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears

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#8 Posted by Rockette (5932 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 3

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#9 Posted by CyberpunkCop (3406 posts) - - Show Bio

Hela kills him

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#11 Edited by TheSerbianEmpire (1236 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: It's always great when a guy saids a charecter is overrated and then proceeds to give no explanation as to why he stops early.

He might stop at Hela regardless, as shes probably superior to everyone here bar stormbreaker Thor and maybe Thanos.

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#13 Edited by TheSerbianEmpire (1236 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: Not really? His piercing durability is pretty meh, but its still blatantly superhuman and he has a pretty solid healing factor and shield that can take hits from Magnis sword.

His blunt force and energy durability is still pretty up to par.

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#14 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio
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#15 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: you’re reaching. Baldur 3 shot the Midgard Serpent and Kratos was eating his punches for ages.

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#16 Posted by Redshift_Bacon (687 posts) - - Show Bio

Could stop at Hela, depending on Cockiness. Stalemates 4. Other than that, he stops at 8. He could hold off Cronos's punches whom is much, MUCH larger than Surter. Physicals he has easily but he could stop at 7 depending on how bloodlusted Thor is, and if he goes for the head lol

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#19 Posted by TheSerbianEmpire (1236 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: "His piercing durability isn't just a meh, it's a shame.He was pierced by an Atreus' arrow and Baldur pierced him with a random rock."

Atreus's arrows are basically a nuisance without their electricity effect, they pierce but dont go deep enough to actually do any serious damage, hence why in the e3 gameplay and after the stun effect wore off kratos just tore the arrow out and immediately ran after baldur. Atreus is also a blatant superhuman, so the overall force behind them is considerably more than most bullets.

Were talking about Baldur here, just do to his shere strength, were talking about thousands of pounds easily being thrusted onto a tipped point. If Kratos had such bad piercing resistance, the crystal should of blown his skin clean off, the ogre bite should of done more besides some superfical damage.

"His healing factor could save him of flesh wound but nothing more."

He's survive being gutted by the blade of olympus and the stone from baldur, both definetly hit internal organs, baldur also cracked his knee when he kicked it and yet he was up walking fine afterwards.

"Magni's sword is featless and didn't seem powerful enough to be impressive."

True, but Magni and Modi as toddlers flipped a giant, and Magni was seen casually ragdolling a Ogre, so his strength alone means that its considerebly impressive to take hits from a sword by him, even Sindri (one of the greatest smiths ever and who hates aesir) complimented Magnis strength and sword.

"Also the energy durability of Kratos is also crap.See how the arrow Atreus shot to Kratos paraliced him.The same with Modi's sword."

I was refering to his resistance to explosions and such.

"Kratos is strong, but not as strong as some of his high-end feats(some of them outliers) say.And also he is brave and quite skillful, but that's all."

He moved a bridge that weighs over a million tons, anyone on the mcu team have a feat like that?

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#20 Edited by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: Kratos has a shield and can slow down time. Kratos has killed beings that merely have to step on Hela to kill her, there’s levels to this and she’s not up to par.

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#21 Posted by KingLouie (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears

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#22 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (2385 posts) - - Show Bio

h2h ? Clears. Only CW Supergirl or Avengers Assemble Hulk and Thor could give Kratos a fight

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#23 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (2385 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by jashugan (6635 posts) - - Show Bio

Hela's blades are far more dangerous than Atreus' bows while having better feats. Hela can make them much larger and isn't limited by how much she's carrying.

On the other hand, most of those feats took place on asgard where she's more powerful.

Wonder if melee only means no weapons.

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#26 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (2385 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan said:

Hela's blades are far more dangerous than Atreus' bows while having better feats. Hela can make them much larger and isn't limited by how much she's carrying.

On the other hand, most of those feats took place on asgard where she's more powerful.

Wonder if melee only means no weapons.

But rules are h2h only

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#29 Edited by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: Zeus, Cronos and Atlas

And I love the fact that you had no legitimate response to him being able to slow down time.

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#30 Posted by KingLouie (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

@theserbianempire: Kratos has more than enough consistent feats like him moving the bridge. Are you even playing these games?

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#31 Posted by RandomGuy287 (1157 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Posted by DavidHarewood14 (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

Kratos stomps all of them then

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#33 Posted by KingLouie (3567 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Edited by KingLouie (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: Yes, in GOW2 and 4 he has more feats close to that level

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#39 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: Kratos can slow down time, did you even play the new GOW? And Kratos dominated both his fights against Zeus, hence why Athena had to intervene in their first fight. Yeah you’re right about Atlas, Kratos only tied him up my bad. But Cronos still stands.

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#40 Posted by KingLouie (3567 posts) - - Show Bio

I can’t post gif’s. You’ll have to find his respect thread. 🙂

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#41 Posted by jashugan (6635 posts) - - Show Bio

@sexybayonetta22: OP says "h2h & melee only". Melee combat is just close quarters combat which includes weapons.

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#42 Posted by diydeath (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

Hela could give him trouble but it depends where the battle takes place. If ot happens on Asgard after Hela has been there for a while? Not sure Kratos can win...but if the battle doesn't take place on Asgard...Kratos is going to rip her arms off and shove them down her throat.

Stormbreaket Thor could probably kill Kratos and Thanos would easily kill Kratos if he has the gauntlet.

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#43 Posted by jashugan (6635 posts) - - Show Bio

Kratos can slow down time, did you even play the new GOW? And Kratos dominated both his fights against Zeus, hence why Athena had to intervene in their first fight. Yeah you’re right about Atlas, Kratos only tied him up my bad. But Cronos still stands.

Realm rift is a gameplay move given with amulets and item enhancements and isn't a real time slow. It slows down enemies upon dodging and is only available for a specific amulet.

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Canonically speaking, nothing says Kratos got all those items that allow him to realm shift (or didn't get them) so it's entirely dependent on if the op allows it to happen. SInce the op says nothing about that, you're better off sticking with the actual weapons Kratos always has with him: Leviathan Axe, Blade of Chaos, Guardian Shield.

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#44 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: Kratos is still superior in all aspects apart from piercing durability. Strength, skill, speed, the whole lot.

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#45 Posted by jashugan (6635 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness: Skill? probably not. Fictional character skill is one of those things that are hard to quantify.

Speed? Probably not again. Kratos isn't faster than most of the characters on this list.

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#47 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript: Kratos has never been dropped by Lightning, he has overcome it on three occasions now. And has killed dominated a lightning god in a fight, the same God who wiped out and island with a wave. The same God who also bodied multiple titans at once.

To say Kratos agility, speed and skill is nearly human is flat out absurd. He’s reacted to Baldur’s bulrush consistently, killed Hermes and what he accomplished in his first trilogy tells us he’s a skilful Fighter. He has singlehandedly defeated an army worth of men, no man can do that. Hela simply doesn’t have enough feats to compete.

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#48 Edited by jashugan (6635 posts) - - Show Bio

@dayoscript:

No. Kratos is definitly superhuman in speed and agility, just not as superhuman as many fictional characters and certainly isn't approaching something like sonic speeds.

He's certainly weaker to Electricity in current God of War than in previous god of war games. They cause him more pain now and he also has to enter spartan rage to counter act against it, and even that still takes a good amount of effort.

Anyone that doesn't believe so should compare God of War 3 Kratos when shot by Zeus lightning and electrocuted by Hephaestus to God of War Kratos against modi.

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He isn't reeling in pain in the first video. He's strong enough to push through even though he's being electrocuted in the 2nd video, while the bottom video has him kneeling in pain, unable to stand when a similar current of electricity is shocking him only standing after getting angry enough but still taking more effort than his previous self. It's consistent with the fact that Kratos is older now and weaker. While he can still lift as much as before, he's certainly slower, less agile, and holds back his strength more.

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#49 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16564 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan:

Nah Skill is quantifiable because we’ve seen Kratos face all types of adversity. He has fought Dragnos, armies, sea creatures, trolls, valkyries, Gods, titans etc. Anything Hela has done, Kratos has also done and more.

Nobody on the list has fought and stomped a teleporter, so I’m struggling to just agree with the statement of most people on this list are faster than Kratos. They may be able to travel faster but in combat it’s a different story.

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#50 Edited by jashugan (6635 posts) - - Show Bio

@ready_4_madness:

Nah Skill is quantifiable because we’ve seen Kratos face all types of adversity. He has fought Dragnos, armies, sea creatures, trolls, valkyries, Gods, titans etc. Anything Hela has done, Kratos has also done and more.

Like I said, this isn't quantifiable. All you did was make a list of things he's fought, that isn't quanitfication especially given most of the people in this gauntlet has fought the same.

Nobody on the list has fought and stomped a teleporter, so I’m struggling to just agree with the statement of most people on this list are faster than Kratos. They may be able to travel faster but in combat it’s a different story.

Teleportation isn't a measure of speed, how did that make you think Kratos was faster just for fighting one character that can teleport? Loki can teleport too (You see this when he kills Coulson), does this mean everyone that has fought and/or beat him is now some uber speedy guy? No.