Korra (water, fire) vs Toph

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#101 Edited by DJudgment (526 posts) - - Show Bio
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@djudgment: People are also forgetting how powerful Korra is too.Korra is the avatar and as Kyoshi has said the avayar us a god in their world with all the power. In this fight Korra has her best elements water and fire. She a prodigy and been bending before she was discovered to be the avatar at age 4. What Toph going do when Korra starts flying with rockets shooting powerful for balls that are explosive or shoot massive waves of fire at her. Korra can even do flash freeze against Toph. Toph doesn't do well. The only way I see Toph defeating Korra in earth bending match between those two but given Korra other elements gives her the win here. Many people are underestimating Korra power as the avatar who mastered all four elements.

I'm not at all, Korra was a powerful and formidable bender and a great Avatar, aside from losing the connection to the avatars -_-!!

There's bending, and then there's mastering elements. She indeed showed promise but actually took longer to master all four elements than her previous two incarnations. Off topic though.

The problem with Korra flying around is that she can't sustain fire jets long enough to actually "Fly around" Korra needs to land, and the moment she does Toph will know her exact location.

Toph would have no trouble defending these attacks. Again Toph has to quick of a reaction time to be able to successfully hit her without a defence being mounted by toph.

However, you have to also look at the peronailites and the way the fight too. Korra is a very head on, aggressive fighter ! This does not work against Toph at all, Toph's weakness is someone like Aang who is defensive and light on there feet. Korra is very much straight to the point.

Nothing wrong with her style at all but against toph it hinders her. Seismic Sense is a huge part of Toph's ability to defend and attack, she will always be a little quicker of the mark than Korra.

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#102 Edited by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: You're talking about the old Korra. Not the current. Korra was shown to use rockets while bending huge chunks of earth in book four and has shown using offense and defense. In tornado or water spout. She doesn't need to land. Toph seismic sense was only to help her see. It's not powerful at all just help Toph to see around her. Seismic will go good with Korra using earth bending against Toph. Toph could defeat Korra in earth. But as I said Korra has the best elements in this fight water and fire. That gives her the win. She can do many things with water and fire and has shown to make combos. Toph weekness is she too stiff and slow bender that best on ground. Even when Korra did traditional earth bending Bolin told her that it's too slow and stiff. With Korra using pro-bending earth bending she able to keep light on her feet and bend at a faster rate. Same thing with water and fire. Korra uses both styles and has great durability which would take long for Toph to defeat her.

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#103 Posted by DJudgment (526 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: You're talking about the old Korra. Not the current. Korra was shown to use rockets while bending huge chinks of earth in book four and has shown using offense and defense.

Im sorry but i don't recall Korra every showing a continuous burst of jet propulsion to fly without touching the ground, and i don't not understand the second part of that ? has shown what using offense and defense ?

@djudgment: You're talking about the old Korra. Not the current. Korra was shown to use rockets while bending huge chinks of earth in book four and has shown using offense and defense. In tornado or water spout. She doesn't need to land. Toph seismic sense was only to help her see. It's not powerful at all just help Toph to see around her. Seismic will go good with Korra using earth bending against Toph.

She cant use a tornado, she only has Fire and Water ! Water spout would not work due to to there being not much water around and would restrict Korra to one position, Toph has also shown the ability to defend airborne attacks.

You are mistaken with Seismic Sense, it is not just there to for Toph too see! Yes she uses it for that only because she is blind. Seismic Sense is more than just a tool to see otherwise why would Aang, Suyin, Lin use it still.

Seismic Sense is a sub technique for Earthbenders that help sense vibrations through the ground. It basically gives the bender a 360 point view of everything around her. The reason why Toph uses this technique more than most is due to her being blind and she actually enhanced it to its most powerful form.

It doesn't only work against earthbending, it works when you make the slightest move with anything, she senses everything.

But as I said Korra has the best elements in this fight water and fire. That gives her the win. She can do many things with water and fire and has shown to make combos. Toph weekness is she too stiff and slow bender that best on ground. Even when Korra did traditional earth bending Bolin told her that it's too slow and stiff. With Korra using pro-bending earth bending she able to keep light on her feet and bend at a faster rate. Same thing with water and fire. Korra uses both styles and has great durability which would take long for Toph to defeat her.

Toph weakness in agility is made up for 10x times over with her power in earthbending. After spending years with Aang she well would have gotten used to more agile opponents, not to mention facing off against Azula a couple time. Korra's combos won't amount to much as they wont get past Toph's defences.

Just because Korra was slow and stiff that does not mean traditional style is. You're forgetting Bolin is also leagues below Toph when it comes to Earthbending, so his word doesn't mean much.

No even if shes light on her feat Toph can counter easily, she's still making friction with the ground which enables Toph to see every move before it happens. She would need airbending to overcome this.

Korra's durability is the only reason she last longer than she does.

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#104 Posted by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: Bolin isn't leagues below Toph. He use to be until he got lava bending. Bolin and Ghazan can defeat Toph very easily using lava and turning her attacks into lava which Toph can't do nothing about it. Korra can use water spout. Korra agility durability strength skill speed helps her alot. Just because Toph has power doesn't mean she automatically wins. Korra also has raw power in all four elements. She a power house not to be mess with or underestimated. All Toph faced was bunch fodders and she never face anyone like Korra who is a prodigy of bending. traditional bending is slow compared to pro-bending. There pro and cons for both style. One is slow and other lacks of power but makes it up for using fast tactical attacks that are effective. Korra faced Kuvira who is stated to be on Toph level that ahows Korra would defeat her especially with fire and water her best elements. Korra can stick with fire as well with combat.

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#105 Posted by DJudgment (526 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: Bolin isn't leagues below Toph. He use to be until he got lava bending. Bolin and Ghazan can defeat Toph very easily using lava and turning her attacks into lava which Toph can't do nothing about it. Korra can use water spout.

Bolin is indeed leagues below Toph, just because he is a lava bender does not mean he is on equal footing with Toph at all.

Bolin & Ghazan both would lose to Toph, Bolin has showed plenty of times that earthbending is capable enough to negate Lavabending, now add this too Toph's level it wouldn't be that hard for her to beat him.

Korra agility durability strength skill speed helps her alot. Just because Toph has power doesn't mean she automatically wins. Korra also has raw power in all four elements. She a power house not to be mess with or underestimated. All Toph faced was bunch fodders and she never face anyone like Korra who is a prodigy of bending. traditional bending is slow compared to pro-bending. There pro and cons for both style. One is slow and other lacks of power but makes it up for using fast tactical attacks that are effective. Korra faced Kuvira who is stated to be on Toph level that ahows Korra would defeat her especially with fire and water her best elements. Korra can stick with fire as well with combat.

Just because Korra is the Avatar, it doesn't mean she automatically wins either. Korra is a power house but she's going up against something equally as strong.

I wouldn't say Toph has only fought fodder either as she has been involved in many different matchups, most of the time Toph is held back due to the fact she was always a cheat code for them.

I wouldn't say traditional bending is slow, it depends what element we are talking about ? If anything the ATLA bending style was a lot more efficient and a lot harder to breakdown.

Kuivra hasn't been stated to be on Toph's level and she shouldn't be, Toph is a tier above near enough all Earthbenders par King Bumi tbh.

Korra's fire wont do if any damage against Toph, i would lean more to her water than anything, however Toph is too skilled to be beaten.

As i said before, Korra's head on personality & Style does not help against someone like Toph.

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#106 Posted by Unlimited1 (1295 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: The show's creator has stated that Toph would give Kuvira a good fight in a QNA session. Toph can't see Korra when she is on a water spout so she loses.

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#107 Posted by DJudgment (526 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: The show's creator has stated that Toph would give Kuvira a good fight in a QNA session. Toph can't see Korra when she is on a water spout so she loses.

Giving someone a good fight doesn't help either side ? If anything that statement is incredibly vague? It just says they would have a good fight. Yet no winner was said.

She cant no, but as i said before earlier, there isn't an huge amount of water accessible at the location apart from a few streams, however if they are fighting next to the tree of time, there is next to no water there so no water spout.

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#108 Posted by Unlimited1 (1295 posts) - - Show Bio
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#109 Edited by gunchar16 (2002 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra, but Toph makes her work for it.

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#110 Posted by gunchar16 (2002 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: Bolin isn't leagues below Toph. He use to be until he got lava bending. Bolin and Ghazan can defeat Toph very easily using lava and turning her attacks into lava which Toph can't do nothing about it. Korra can use water spout. Korra agility durability strength skill speed helps her alot. Just because Toph has power doesn't mean she automatically wins. Korra also has raw power in all four elements. She a power house not to be mess with or underestimated. All Toph faced was bunch fodders and she never face anyone like Korra who is a prodigy of bending. traditional bending is slow compared to pro-bending. There pro and cons for both style. One is slow and other lacks of power but makes it up for using fast tactical attacks that are effective. Korra faced Kuvira who is stated to be on Toph level that ahows Korra would defeat her especially with fire and water her best elements. Korra can stick with fire as well with combat.

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Bolin loses badly against Toph, Ghazan has a better chance but could still get overwhelmed by Toph.

Toph was constantly around confirmed prodigies on both sides.

Pro bending is a joke, and even modern bending in general isn't faster than traditional bending per se. Tenzin is a traditional bender to a degree, Aang and Azula were traditional benders to a degree and all of them are faster than the most modern benders.

Kuvira has not shown that she is even close to Toph's Earthbending level, only her Metalbending was really impressive.

I wouldn't even disagree that Korra wins, but most of your post is still bull.

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#111 Posted by EmmaFrostXmen (3378 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra Wins due to agility and versatility

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#112 Posted by Wilkiiins17 (706 posts) - - Show Bio

Toph

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#113 Posted by MrGetMeBodied (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra Wins!!!

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#114 Posted by geekryan (5444 posts) - - Show Bio

Still Toph, in a good fight

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#115 Posted by vengefulshot (2205 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra, more raw power in water alone, adding fire gives her at worst equal versatility/skill and more than enough offensive output to put Toph down.

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#116 Posted by ANTHP2000 (29640 posts) - - Show Bio

Toph.