Korra vs Firelord Ozai

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#201 Posted by Amendment50 (15844 posts) - - Show Bio

One thing I think helps Korra a lot is that fire is one of her strong elements. Aang was weakest with fire by far when he fought Ozai. Korra can make way better use of Sozin's comet which could even the odds a lot against Ozai.

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#202 Posted by Tektonic (1391 posts) - - Show Bio

Like many here have said Korra has a huge advantage as a master firebender to cancel out Ozai's advantages and a master waterbender to compete with even his enhancements. Her air is great support and earth can be very useful if she spam environmental techniques.

Korra's got this.

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#203 Posted by mialthefencer (367 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra's a very good firebender in her own right, and she's much more aggressive than Aang, which will help her a lot in this fight. I'd back her extreme-dif due to that.

Korra has no Avatar State, so I don't see how she can get a win. Aang basically needed it to bail himself out, and I think they're comparable enough that Korra wouldn't have an easier time than he did without it.

One can argue that Korra's a more offensively oriented bender than Aang is, but that's a pretty poor tactic against Ozai with Sozin's Comet in effect.

The main difference between Korra and Aang under the Comet IMO is that Korra is a far, far better firebender than Aang, meaning that although they're comparable normally, the Comet helps Korra a lot more than it does Aang.

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#204 Edited by ANTHP2000 (29640 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not seeing how Korra can actually defeat Ozai without the Avatar State. His firebending is leagues better and her waterbending and airbending can only help her so much with power and mobility. He's still a lot more mobile and powerful than she is. Aang couldn't defeat him without the Avatar State (and lightning reidrection) either.

I also don't think Korra's firebending is next level compared to Aang's. We saw more of it, and I agree she's better, but we barely even saw Aang using it until he fought Ozai. That doesn't make him bad at all, it just means he doesn't prefer it unlike Korra. It is an advantage by all means, but I doubt it's one that can carry her.

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#205 Edited by marvelfan1992 (3160 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra's a very good firebender in her own right, and she's much more aggressive than Aang, which will help her a lot in this fight. I'd back her extreme-dif due to that.

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Korra has no Avatar State, so I don't see how she can get a win. Aang basically needed it to bail himself out, and I think they're comparable enough that Korra wouldn't have an easier time than he did without it.

One can argue that Korra's a more offensively oriented bender than Aang is, but that's a pretty poor tactic against Ozai with Sozin's Comet in effect.

The main difference between Korra and Aang under the Comet IMO is that Korra is a far, far better firebender than Aang, meaning that although they're comparable normally, the Comet helps Korra a lot more than it does Aang.

this. She used fire about as much as she used water, so the boost sozin's comet amp helps her just as much as it helps Ozai. The reason Aang had such a hard time was because he didn't really benefit from the comet's amp since he didn't have a preference for fire and hardly used it. He was basically matching ozai's comet amped fire with non-amped bending. Korra on the other hand would for the most part be matching amped fire with amped fire, making the fight a lot easier for her than for Aang.

That said, she still will have a hell of a hard fight

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#206 Posted by ByondEon (1732 posts) - - Show Bio

She would absolutely destroy Ozai if she could go into AS. As for people saying she isn't as mobile as Ozai, I would strongly disagree. She showed that she is equally mobile as Zaheer, and he can fricken fly. She also have stronger bending than Ozai and Aang. Her airbending isn't as proficient as Aang's and her firebending isn't as good as Ozai's, it's still better than Aang's. The only way I can see Ozai winning is by blasting Korra with lightning, and while she would most likely lose to that if she got hit, he would for the most part lose unless she actually stand still and let him shoot her, which she won't.

Korra for the easy win

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#207 Posted by vengefulshot (2205 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra because her firebending is actually worth a damn.

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#208 Posted by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: Korra has everything that Aang needed to defeat him. If she able handle stronger enemies than Ozai than she able to defeat Ozai especially since she good with fire. Korra is even able to bend multiple elements without avatar state making strong combos. Remember Ozai needs to make stops to is lightning with Korra going offense she won't let him. She will have him running from her. If Ozai gets Korra angry than he won't be stopping raging Korra at Sozin coment. She going to kill him completely.

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#209 Posted by ANTHP2000 (29640 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrsomebody:

I understand your points but Korra never, ever defeated anyone more powerful than Ozai under Sozin's Comet without the use of the Avatar State.

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#210 Posted by Alsimmons77 (1949 posts) - - Show Bio

aang needed avatar state to definitively put ozai down, though he did have the upper hand with lightning redirection and surprise attacks (which korra has neither of). ozai should win this

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#211 Posted by The_Magister (14724 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozai is an alpha male, so I'm not sure why ANTHP is debating in his favor

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#212 Edited by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: Yeah but each villain have to face Korra being handicapped somehow like book one Korra facing Amon the strongest blood bender without avatar state or Korra facing strongest villain Unalaq and Vattu. Ravaa stated the more spirits turn dark the more power Vattu has and Vattu was getting stronger and that why Unalaq had more power. Korra facing Hundun another powerful spirit with chaos magic or Korra going against Zaheer with mercury poisoning dying in painful way while trying fight Zaheer in the air. Korra facing Kuvira for first time having PTSD and being out of shape as even Kuvira notice Korra is rusty and off her game that why Kuvira played mind games with Korra. Even Amon said don't underestimate her or Zaheer knew how dangerous she was and attacked her in her sleep and put her in chains and yet Korra was still fighting with being locked up in chains from hands to legs. Plus she showed how powerful her avatar state is at end of book four bending physical energy.

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#213 Edited by Alsimmons77 (1949 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_magister said:

Ozai is an alpha male, so I'm not sure why ANTHP is debating in his favor

Ozai is a terrible dad, psychopath and a very pathetic kind of megalomaniac as especially shown in the comics, if that's what alpha male means are alpha males basically human trash.

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#214 Posted by mialthefencer (367 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_magister said:

Ozai is an alpha male, so I'm not sure why ANTHP is debating in his favor

Ozai is a terrible dad, psychopath and a very pathetic kind of megalomaniac as especially shown in the comics, if that's what alpha male means are alpha males basically human trash.

You're not wrong.

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#215 Posted by ANTHP2000 (29640 posts) - - Show Bio

Of course Ozai is alpha according to Mags. He's got all the typical qualities. Smh.

@mrsomebody: That doesn't change what I said. She never beat anyone as powerful as Ozai without the Avatar State like you said at first.

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#216 Posted by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: I said they needed her to be handicapped to go one on one against her. Korra enemies was much stronger smarter then Ozai. Here another thing Korra good with fire and able to fly like Ozai and uses same and similar attacks like Ozai Iroh Azula and Zuko. There even gif showing Korra using same techniques as them and yet people want claim all she do is punch and kick when she doesn't. Since Korra good with fire during sozin coment she going roast him with or without avatar state.

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#217 Edited by The_Magister (14724 posts) - - Show Bio

@alsimmons77 said:
@the_magister said:

Ozai is an alpha male, so I'm not sure why ANTHP is debating in his favor

Ozai is a terrible dad, psychopath and a very pathetic kind of megalomaniac as especially shown in the comics, if that's what alpha male means are alpha males basically human trash.

You're not wrong.

Being an alpha is irrespective of moral qualities. That's another matter entirely.

It's about the muscularity and the personality. Ozai knows he's the boss, and he carries himself as such. His defined physique adds to his imposing presence.

Every spoken word, every stride taken, etc. is full of alpha energy.

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#218 Edited by GXrevs06 (5109 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra will win with all 4 elements. A lot of people may disagree with this but a morals on Aang was somewhat capable of holding his own against Ozai for a while. He evaded and blocked(with earth, fire and water) virtually everything Ozai threw at him and the latter only really got one hit in, which Aang immediately recovered from. He only really gained the clear upper hand in that fight after Aang deflected his lighting and subsequently lost to the strength and will to continue. Korra is a more aggressive fighter than Aang, will benefit considerably more from the comet amp, and will not hesitate to kill him and get right up in his face.

Korra takes this with mid diff at most. Going up against an aggressive Avatar like Korra with mastery of all 4 elements(her strongest element that is boosted) will be too much for Ozai here. I dare say fire and water, alone, would be enough to take Ozai in a high diff fight(assuming vast quantities of water available)

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#219 Posted by blackspidey2099 (6891 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra absolutely wrecks. Aang would have beaten Ozai too if he wasn't such a wimp about it.

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#220 Posted by Crimson-Feather (183 posts) - - Show Bio

@knightofzero said:

aang needed avatar state to definitively put ozai down, though he did have the upper hand with lightning redirection and surprise attacks (which korra has neither of). ozai should win this

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#222 Posted by chloros (242 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree with the above. Korra would definitely need the Avatar State, and probably lightning redirection to be able to win. 🌺

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#223 Posted by Tektonic (1391 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra, a top tier waterbender and high tier firebender/airbender, I don't see how Ozai will win this.

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#224 Posted by DJudgment (526 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra has no Avatar State, so I don't see how she can get a win. Aang basically needed it to bail himself out, and I think they're comparable enough that Korra wouldn't have an easier time than he did without it.

One can argue that Korra's a more offensively oriented bender than Aang is, but that's a pretty poor tactic against Ozai with Sozin's Comet in effect.

Couldn't agree more.

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#225 Posted by Captain_Narlowe (228 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozai should win under these rules, Aang was only doing well as he could have redirected the lightning, and Korra is more aggressive but Ozai is a much better firebender and Aang more evasive.

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#226 Posted by IdrisianGraecus (161 posts) - - Show Bio

Without the Avatar state, Ozai more or less => Aang as of the series finale. Korra < Aang without the AS. Lightning redirection was practically the only advantage bar the AS Aang had in the fight, and Korra has never shown the capability to redirect lightning.

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#227 Edited by Itachus17 (3740 posts) - - Show Bio

Ozai but it's quite tough.

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#228 Edited by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@idrisiangraecus: She won't need direction lightning since she will chase Ozai instead and try kill him on offense. With Korra going on offense Ozai won't have enough time to shoot lightning. In order for Ozai to do that he needs to make stops and its going be hard to tag Korra when she flying too. Korra would be going on same speed as him in raging state against Ozai and Ozai won't have time to defend himself. All he can do is fly as fast he can against raging avatar. Just look what happened to him with Aang. So there won't be any lightning in this fight all you going see Korra chasing him trying to kill him.

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#229 Edited by Zuriel-el (3620 posts) - - Show Bio

Korra takes it being a far better fighter.

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#230 Edited by IdrisianGraecus (161 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrsomebody: No, Korra &lt; Aang without AS as well as with. Ozai dominates Aang without AS, so he beats Korra as well.

Korra can’t fly. Also, Ozai can charge lightning ridiculously fast, and Korra can’t block that.

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#231 Edited by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@idrisiangraecus: Youre wrong. Korra has stronger avatar state since she has better connection to Ravaa and has stronger Ravaa who back her prime. Korra is a prodigy and beats Aang in water earth and fire. Korra even surpassed Aang on her spiritual side by end of book four and has more spiritual abilities like bending physical energy connected to all energy from both worlds and able spirit bend heal metal bend. Korra has him beat in elements except for air. Korra so far has best feat in avatar state showing how powerful the avatar state is by bending physical energy causing nuke blast and ripped a hole between two worlds creating a spirit portal. Ozai doesn't beat Korra. As I already said why many times. All you're doing contradicting Korra power. What Azula and Zuko going do to Korra in that state? Korra going kill them. Korra can fly but not like Zaheer. She uses rockets to fly propel herself in the air like Ozai did.

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#232 Edited by blackspidey2099 (6891 posts) - - Show Bio

Aang would have comfortably beaten Ozai without the Avatar State if he wasn't such a terrible and timid fighter. Korra might not be as good overall as Aang, but her aggressive style means she will face Ozai head on instead of running away. Her superior fire-bending is another huge advantage in this scenario, and those 2 things put together give her the win.

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#233 Posted by IdrisianGraecus (161 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrsomebody: Aang > Korra in earthbending, but not metal. Ozai has ridiculous speed with his lightning charge, and could defeat korra

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#234 Edited by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@idrisiangraecus: But how he going make stops to shoot lightning when Korra going keep attacking on offense. That only worked on Aang who was running away and kept defending himself. Aang was able to dodge Ozai lighting by leaping from pillar to pillar so that mean Korra who has rockets able dodge it and she most likely won't let him make any stops to shoot lightning. Metal Bending is earth bending so it counts its a sub-element of earth. That gives Korra the edge over Aang since she has metal.

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#235 Posted by IdrisianGraecus (161 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrsomebody: The thing is, that Korra won’t get the opportunity to attack. Ozai will push her back, as he did Aang, and eventually overwhelm her, likely with lightning.

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#236 Posted by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@idrisiangraecus: That wont happen to Korra. The difference is Korra is shown to lift and throw bigger guys that bigger than Ozai around like they're nothing. She won't be afraid to face Ozai as she face people that are worse than Ozai. Ozai won't have time to do any of that. All he can do is fly as he can just like he did when Aang went ham on him.

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#237 Posted by IdrisianGraecus (161 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrsomebody: But Korra doesn’t HAVE THE AS. Without the AS, Aang was being practically annihilated by Ozai, and Aang > Korra.

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#238 Posted by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@idrisiangraecus: Just because Aang was being beaten it doesn't mean it will happen to other avatars. Each avatar are different. Korra is a fighter and will go on offense mostly and her favorite element is fire that being amped by Sozin coment. Forrra won't struggle against Ozai.

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#240 Posted by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenger13x: You got be joking. Go rewatch the damn show. Fire is her most used element and her favorite element to use. She uses fire and make combos like fire and air or fire and earth. Korra uses fire a lot and she able do all techniques that Ozai amd Azula Zuko and Iroh did. Ozai won't be doing anything but running away before he gets killed.

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#244 Edited by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio

@avenger13x: Dude are you seeing gay porn on here? Who ever doing this needs help.

Also, Ozai still not going win. Korra defeats him easily. She mastered all four elements something Aang needed.

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#246 Edited by Mrsomebody (90 posts) - - Show Bio