Korra (H2H) & Asami Vs Ty Lee & Suki

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  • Korra can't bend; Asami has her glove
  • Suki has Kyoshi Warrior Gear; Ty Lee doesn't
  • Morals off
  • Win by any means
  • Fight takes place in the Earth King's throne room
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Korra is a weak link

Probably team 2

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Ty Lee is the best HtoH fighter in the series. Whichever side has her wins.

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Ty Lee and Suki win without much trouble

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#7  Edited By CryoLancer47

Ty Lee & Suki take the W. H2H is their bread & butter.

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Ty Lee never beat anyone above featless fodder without cheap shots. And Suki's best feat is climbing a wall and not getting stomped by someone above fodder for a change. I really don't get what's the source of their wanking in the fandom.

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Ty Lee and Suki win.

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Ty lee and Suki win. They're both the best H2H combatants in the verse plus they can both Chi block.

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Ty Lee and Suki stomp.

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Ty Lee never beat anyone above featless fodder without cheap shots. And Suki's best feat is climbing a wall and not getting stomped by someone above fodder for a change. I really don't get what's the source of their wanking in the fandom.

I'm noticing a pattern with you on threads. You seem to display a bias towards LOK characters and consistently downplay/lowball TLA characters.

Just looking through some recent threads, not once have you supported a TLA character vs a LOK character in a battle. Also referring to characters such as Toph and Ty Lee as "never having beaten anyone except fodder", which is a generalization that isn't even purely indicative of a bender's combat ability since there are many other factors that tie in.

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Ty Lee is the best H2H fighter in the verse and Suki would be 2nd. Korra has more raw strength and Asami is particularly underrated, but they lose. Plus, we've seen Korra vs. a chi-blocker. She did not fare well. Granted, that was a season 1 Korra, but that was also a random unnamed chi blocker, so it evens out.

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@geekryan said:
@stratospher said:

Ty Lee never beat anyone above featless fodder without cheap shots. And Suki's best feat is climbing a wall and not getting stomped by someone above fodder for a change. I really don't get what's the source of their wanking in the fandom.

I'm noticing a pattern with you on threads. You seem to display a bias towards LOK characters and consistently downplay/lowball TLA characters.

Just looking through some recent threads, not once have you supported a TLA character vs a LOK character in a battle. Also referring to characters such as Toph and Ty Lee as "never having beaten anyone except fodder", which is a generalization that isn't even purely indicative of a bender's combat ability since there are many other factors that tie in.

Tbh the toph thing is true, she has crazy feats but besides the comics she barely 1v1s anyone who's notable.

Anyways, Korra is not a weak link like the first guy said. She has the best physicals here, you can even argue that shes relative to ty lee. In S1 before she got airbending, she mastered airbender-like movement as seen in that probending episode and her tarrlok fight. Shes dodged attacks without bending from dark spirits, who has the fastest movement speed in the series. She's not a marital artist like anyone else here, but shes far more durable and strikes FAR harder than anyone here. If she lands a single strike against ty lee, shes done.

Asami pretty much just has to tap anyone here and its a ggs. Sukis armor isn't saving her here and ty lee isn't fast enough to blitz korra. They lose

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Wait Asami has her glove? One touch is all she needs. Korra is too fast for both. EZ win for Team 1

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Kinda want to go with Suki and Ty Lee in a really tough fight, but it can nearly go either way.

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#18  Edited By Stratospher

@geekryan:

I'm noticing a pattern with you on threads. You seem to display a bias towards LOK characters and consistently downplay/lowball TLA characters

What i said there is factually correct, so i don't really care whatever patterns you see there, no offense. Attack my points, not my supposed bias. Especially when it largely only exists in your head. There is a number of characters from LoK i consider drastically underrated by the fandom, especially here, which doesn't change the fact that i consider most high tiers from AtlA above most high tiers from LoK. Not to mention that i can throw this all right back at you and make a claim that you have the opposite bias, and a lot of your comments would support that claim.

Just looking through some recent threads, not once have you supported a TLA character vs a LOK character in a battle

Am i obliged to? How many LoK characters did you support over AtlA characters recently?

Also referring to characters such as Toph and Ty Lee as "never having beaten anyone except fodder", which is a generalization that isn't even purely indicative of a bender's combat ability since there are many other factors that tie in

In Toph's case - sure, she didn't have that many opportunities to handle a serious opponent in a proper combat scenario. In Ty Lee's case - not so much. And beating fodder while having a very noticeable decrease in your combat effectiveness against actually competent opponents does indicate the fact that beating fodder isn't indicative of a character's combat ability when it comes to fighting characters stronger than fodder. Especially when we have Toph struggling against Yaling and Ty Lee failing to do ANYTHING against anyone above fodder without cheap shots despite having plenty of opportunities. Even sleep deprived mid book 2 Katara with just a pouch of water, the one that got beaten by Mai in that fight despite beating her in Omashu under identical conditions without sleep deprivation, was dodging her punches up close and kept her at bay.

If we look at things from pure h2h skill perspective, both Korra and Asami showed vastly superior skill and versatility in martial arts than either of their opponents here. Ty Lee's entire fighting style is throwing quick jabs. Which basic equalists can do, and more on top of that. Ty Lee's chi blocking is more effective, she needs to land less jabs to paralyze you, but she still needs to land at least one, which she couldn't do even against Suki. Suki is barely better, she can trip and slide into her opponent's legs, which both Korra and Asami can do, and showed good counters too. Except Korra and Asami showed more on top of that as well. Agility? Ty Lee can make huge leaps (in which Korra is not that far behind, though not quite there), and Suki can climb a wall and run on heads. Neither helps them win this fight. Both Korra and Asami showed more than enough combat relevant agility to keep up. I view both of them as significantly more skilled martial artists. Korra on top of that is the most physically strong, the most durable and the fastest of the four, and Asami has her glove, which is superior to chi blocking. So even if AtlA girls win this - it's not going to be nearly as clean as most here think, and they'll have to actually work for it. So yes, Suki and Ty Lee ARE very wanked in this fandom. And you are free to come up with a good case for them or dismiss my points as bias as you already did once, i won't mind either way. But it would be refreshing to see an actually good case for Suki with actually strong points and not "She's a warrior!", "She's the leader of Kyoshi Warriors, elite force!", or "She's a war veteran!" nonsense i've debunked a dozen times.

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Ty lee and Suki

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#20  Edited By Tektonic

Korra's a fantastic H2H combatant. Her reflexes and speed alone are the best here. Literally experienced in dodging or timing every type of attack and fighting beings with literal super speed or characters using speed enhancements. She also has durability and physical strength that are top tier. I'd argue her agility and acrobatics are slept on.

Asami kinda lacks feats but has good scaling and an electric weapon to surprise enemies with.

I don't think it'd be easy either way.

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Suki is the best fighter in the ATLA universe. Ty Lee is right behind. Both of them could solo in H2H.

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ty lee and suki. suki soloes

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Nah I’ll bite.

Korra and Asami win with high difficulty.

Asami stomped the LT who was quite capable, and that was season 1. Her glove makes up for any lack of chi blocking.

Korra outstats and outskills both which also makes up for the lack of chiblocking.

Ty Lees agility will be annoying but if they stand their ground back to back and force the atla girls to come into them it becomes much less relevant.

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@jjkhead said:
@geekryan said:
@stratospher said:

Ty Lee never beat anyone above featless fodder without cheap shots. And Suki's best feat is climbing a wall and not getting stomped by someone above fodder for a change. I really don't get what's the source of their wanking in the fandom.

I'm noticing a pattern with you on threads. You seem to display a bias towards LOK characters and consistently downplay/lowball TLA characters.

Just looking through some recent threads, not once have you supported a TLA character vs a LOK character in a battle. Also referring to characters such as Toph and Ty Lee as "never having beaten anyone except fodder", which is a generalization that isn't even purely indicative of a bender's combat ability since there are many other factors that tie in.

Tbh the toph thing is true, she has crazy feats but besides the comics she barely 1v1s anyone who's notable.

Anyways, Korra is not a weak link like the first guy said. She has the best physicals here, you can even argue that shes relative to ty lee. In S1 before she got airbending, she mastered airbender-like movement as seen in that probending episode and her tarrlok fight. Shes dodged attacks without bending from dark spirits, who has the fastest movement speed in the series. She's not a marital artist like anyone else here, but shes far more durable and strikes FAR harder than anyone here. If she lands a single strike against ty lee, shes done.

Asami pretty much just has to tap anyone here and its a ggs. Sukis armor isn't saving her here and ty lee isn't fast enough to blitz korra. They lose

I do agree Korra has the best physicals here, but her and Asami are less skilled than Ty Lee and Suki, and by a pretty significant margin too.

In H2H, neither Asami nor Korra have faced a bender as skilled as Ty Lee or Suki. Korra has no counter to Ty Lee's chi-blocking style, while Suki would beat Asami pretty easily.

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@geekryan said:

Ty Lee and Suki win without much trouble

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lol.

I am too traumatized to comment on this, iykyk.

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Tylee solos, I'd argue you could put Suki on the other team and she'd still win half of the time.

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team 2 obviously

but team 1 are also top tier hand to hand combatants

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Korra is a weak link

Probably team 2

Huh? Suki is the weak link. Ty Lee get overwhelmed by Asmi and Korra

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team 2 obviously

but team 1 are also top tier hand to hand combatants

Korra and Asami is leagues above Suki.

Ty Lee is gonna fight this 2v1 and she aint winning

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Astonishingly I'm gonna have to lean with Korra and Asami here since they are basically fighting children. S4 Korra should be easily overpowering Suki while Ty Lee is only op against bending and won't do shit against the glove.

Team 1 mid-low diff due to the glove and age advantage

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Don't see how age is a factor when both Ty Lee and Suki have taken down men three times their size and they were firebenders.

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Any reason Ty Lee doesn’t solo?