Kisuke Urahara vs EMS Sasuke

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#1 Edited by Gilateen (4927 posts) - - Show Bio

•Ninja war arc EMS Sasuke

•TYBW arc Kisuke

•Chakra=Reiahsu

•No Knowledge/Prep

•In character

•Random Encounter

•Both start in Base

•Location: Uchiha Hideout

•Starting distance: 60ft

•Win By K.O or Death

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#2 Posted by ovy7 (3742 posts) - - Show Bio

Hado #99

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#3 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4145 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke mid-high diff. Give Urahara an hour or so of prep and he could take it with minor difficulties.

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#4 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

Urahara, EMS has a lack of showings.

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#5 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (5630 posts) - - Show Bio

Saying a vastly more intelligent character who’s vastly faster, stronger and more versatile needs prep is very funny claim.

OT: Kisuke stomps.

He either blitzes, Kido spams or deconstructs Sasuke with his Bankai.

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#6 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7 said:

Hado #99

Does Kisuke even know Hado 99? I can't remember.

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#7 Posted by batmansolosall (387 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisuke wins low diff.

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#8 Edited by ourmanuel (13010 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisuke stomps

Yes he knows hado 99(according to the novel. Take that as you will)

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#9 Posted by ps4gamerdude (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: Prep is the standard or default for someone of his caliber.

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#11 Posted by ovy7 (3742 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil:Yeah, in the novel. He used it to evaporate an ocean made from Karakura's atmosphere. I've seen a calc putting this at island lvl . . . for 1 dragon, and Hado 99 has 5 dragons (he didn't used them all in the attack, some were for defense).

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#12 Posted by ps4gamerdude (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@gilateen: Kisuke takes this one. He's has a ton of kido techniques at his disposal (more than Sasuke has jutsus), faster, and more intelligent.

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#13 Posted by ourmanuel (13010 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7 said:

@limitlesssigil:Yeah, in the novel. He used it to evaporate an ocean made from Karakura's atmosphere. I've seen a calc putting this at island lvl . . . for 1 dragon, and Hado 99 has 5 dragons (he didn't used them all in the attack, some were for defense).

Oh boy...

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#14 Posted by ovy7 (3742 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: . . . well, if you want to use physics. Otherwise, it should easily be city/mountain lvl.

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#15 Posted by MrViking (1083 posts) - - Show Bio

Urahara stomp.

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#16 Posted by Jko1 (3520 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisuke stomps.

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#17 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19079 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisuke really isn't that impressive without knowledge or prep. Sasuke should take this.

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#18 Posted by InvadedTBD (2003 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisuke wins with Bankai

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#19 Posted by ps4gamerdude (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

Kisuke really isn't that impressive without knowledge or prep. Sasuke should take this.

Even w/o prep and/or knowledge, he still able to gain leverage in battle.

"Urahara has proven himself to be the most intelligent being both within and outside of Soul Society. Much of his intellect is seen in scientific inventions, deduction of situations, and combat tactics. Aizen himself acknowledges that Urahara's intelligence surpasses his own immense intellect.[215] Even after a century of exile, the SRDI still holds great respect for his talents.[216] He is very insightful of other people, allowing him to see through a person's demeanor and determine what they are thinking.[217] Also able to read well into the situation, he can seemingly predict anything well in advance.[...] Urahara is a very insightful and cunning man. He possesses great intuition, quickly becoming aware of any incoming danger and reacting to it in time.[227] Urahara has an undeniable talent for thinking things through well in advance, making decisive and accurate decisions quickly in battle, and seemingly perceiving any situation at hand. He is a crafty tactician, easily deceiving both allies and enemies. In battle, he regularly uses cunning and deception to catch his opponents off-guard.[228] He is a very analytical man, quickly seeing through an opponent's power and attack patterns to ultimately make them useless against him. He easily outmaneuvered and tricked Aizen repeatedly in his fight with him.[96] Urahara stated that he goes into situations expecting many possible scenarios just so he is never caught by surprise and making it possible for him to be ready for any that might occur." - https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Kisuke_Urahara#Powers_.26_Abilities

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#20 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19079 posts) - - Show Bio

@ps4gamerdude: Kisuke pretty much relies on his intelligence, trickery, and kido in battle. With knowledge he can come up with a plan and exploit Sasuke, bit with no knowledge he can get caught in genjutsu, amaterasu, or get overpowered by Sasuke's susanoo. If Sasuke goes right in to full body susanoo, I'm not sure if Kisuke is strong enough to fight with him directly. Sasuke doesn't have many feats showing off how powerful he is with EMS, but he should be somewhat relevant to BM Naruto, though I do think he is weaker.

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#21 Edited by ps4gamerdude (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss:

"Kisuke pretty much relies on his intelligence, trickery, and kido in battle. With knowledge he can come up with a plan and exploit Sasuke, bit with no knowledge he can get caught in genjutsu, amaterasu, or get overpowered by Sasuke's susanoo."

I know that but, even w/o knowledge he still outwit folks in the middle of battle. He doesn't necessarily have to plan.

"If Sasuke goes right in to full body susanoo, I'm not sure if Kisuke is strong enough to fight with him directly."

I could see him going on the evasive. He is master in flash step, after all. And flash step users are sonic+ in speed.

"As a former Onmitsukidō unit commander, Urahara has exceptional skill in Shunpo and is well-versed in its various techniques. He is so fast, an opponent does not notice when he replaces himself with a portable Gigai for misdirection; this is further demonstrated when he uses this tactic effectively against Aizen.[176]The fact that he could always keep up with Yoruichi's speed at her peak during sparring sessions is further proof of his mastery of this skill" - https://bleach.fandom.com/wiki/Kisuke_Urahara#Powers_.26_Abilities

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#22 Posted by Raziel2014 (1410 posts) - - Show Bio

Urahara should easily stomp of the bat with a basic shunpo and sword slice what is sasuce going to do exactly? if he does not start already in susanoo he basically gets insta kill.

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#23 Edited by REQUIEMCROSS (719 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke wins by using Genjutsu.

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#24 Posted by great_black_star (3362 posts) - - Show Bio

Why people are assuming that Kisuke is more intelligent than Sasuke?

Kisuke is good with prep, I agree but Sasuke has much better battle sense. In a random encounter Sasuke will simply dissect Kisuke, he cannot do anything that Sasuke cannot counter.

Going with Sasuke.

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#25 Edited by ourmanuel (13010 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisuke blitzes

Inb4 EMS kept up with BM naruto, even though he couldn’t catch itachi or blitz kabuto.

Edit: lol at sasuke being smarter than kisuke. And lol at susanoo or Amaterasu meaning anything.

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#26 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

Why people are assuming that Kisuke is more intelligent than Sasuke?

Kisuke is good with prep, I agree but Sasuke has much better battle sense. In a random encounter Sasuke will simply dissect Kisuke, he cannot do anything that Sasuke cannot counter.

Going with Sasuke.

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#27 Posted by TheEmperor95 (2013 posts) - - Show Bio

When people still use genjutsu against someone with a zanpaktuo especially one with bankai...

OT: kisuke wins. EMS sasuke is very overrated because of BM naruto (who he never fought) even though he can't replicate BM naruto feats

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#28 Posted by KingZod (4261 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke stomps in a random encounter, superior speed, precog and genjutsu

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#29 Posted by Antonio_1996 (1636 posts) - - Show Bio

How on Earth does Kisuke blitz when Juubito(who would stomp most Bleach characters) failed to do so? Urahara ain't blitzing shit.

OT: Kisuke has absolutely no answer for Sasuke's Susano'o and even if he has some supposed speed advantage (he doesn't), Sasuke's Sharingan should make up the difference.

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#30 Posted by ourmanuel (13010 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingzod said:

Sasuke stomps in a random encounter, superior speed, precog and genjutsu

Where was this superior speed when it came time to catch up to itachi or to blitz kabuto and restrain him? Do people just assume that his new eyes suddenly put him at BM’s speed level? Hell, he’d be lucky if he were even as fast as KCM, though that’s believable.

genjutsu also gets negged by zanpakuto as per it’s own weakness.

How on Earth does Kisuke blitz when Juubito(who would stomp most Bleach characters) failed to do so? Urahara ain't blitzing shit.

And how fast is juubito in the first place

And btw, yes, juubito did in fact blitz sasuke. He blitzed him so hard that he literally held his head in his hand and was about to shove a TSB into his brain.

OT: Kisuke has absolutely no answer for Sasuke's Susano'o

Hado 91, hado 99, his bankai(which absolutely kills sasuke)

and even if he has some supposed speed advantage (he doesn't), Sasuke's Sharingan should make up the difference.

Even with his sharingan, his movement is still too slow. And that’s assuming he can react. If he can and he manages to put up a susanoo, then it’s going to get ruined by the above mentioned techniques.

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#31 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

How on Earth does Kisuke blitz when Juubito(who would stomp most Bleach characters) failed to do so? Urahara ain't blitzing shit.

OT: Kisuke has absolutely no answer for Sasuke's Susano'o and even if he has some supposed speed advantage (he doesn't), Sasuke's Sharingan should make up the difference.

What a surprise, you clearly haven't read Bleach if you think he has no answer for Susanoo lmao. His Bankai ignores durability.

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#32 Posted by uchihaghost (1114 posts) - - Show Bio

Urahara gets hit with an amaterasu to the face.

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#33 Posted by KingZod (4261 posts) - - Show Bio

@ourmanuel: Catch up to Itachi?

Just how fast do you think Sage Kabuto is?

Sasuke was keeping up with and attacking in perfect paced unison with BM Naruto, he blitzes, hard.

A "weakness" which has been rubbished as PIS due to various contradictory occurrences.

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#34 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

Urahara gets hit with an amaterasu to the face.

That isn't happening... Ever. Raikage was able to casually side-step Amaterasu, that's not touching Kisuke.

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#35 Edited by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

Kisuke still wins decisively;

Far more intelligent

Completely negates Sasuke's Susanoo/Durability

Fast enough to dodge Amaterasu with ease

He's a Kido master and essentially knows every Kido which means he's more than capable of reacting and countering any of Sasuke's attacks

Extremely good at stealth

Can create Kido during the battle for various situations

Very good at H2H due to his time in the Onmitsukidō

Can heal himself with his Bankai

Oh and I almost forgot, after seeing an opponents attack he can analyze it and completely negate it.

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#36 Posted by deactivated-5d065fa72d466 (2222 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke wins low - mid diff

Give Urahara prep time and he wins with mid - high diff

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#38 Edited by UltimateSage (4113 posts) - - Show Bio

Sasuke wins low mid diff.

Man, bleach fanboys bring up intelligent like it's a big factor in this battle lol...a casual sussano swing would one shot him.