Kingdom Come Superman vs Darkseid

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I know Darkseid gets his ass kicked by Superman of New Earth every time they meet, but I think that's purely CIS for Darkseid. So, how do you think he'll fight against Superman of Earth-22? Battle is on The Bleed. 
 
Rules: 
 
- No CIS, PIS, or anything like that. 
- No BFR. 
- Darkseid cannot just erase him from existence. 
 
Let the battle begin! 
 
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#2  Edited By Saren

Which Darkseid? Pre Crisis, Post Crisis or Final Crisis?

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#3  Edited By Baltoro

Kingdom Come Superman has some serious strength feats, I'm betting he can pound Darkseid's eyes shut as that tactic has worked for Supes before.  Not that he'd need to go for the eyes because Darkseid cant use omega effect per OP.

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#4  Edited By AMS

Yeah Supes would probably pull it off.

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darkseid loses
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Which Darkseid? Pre Crisis, Post Crisis or Final Crisis?  


 
Post Crisis, I just use Pre Crisis for Skyfathers or higher and Final Crisis for Cosmic Cube beings or higher.
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#7  Edited By doomsummers
@higher_evolutionary: That is the most embarassing thing to have ever happened to any character.
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#8  Edited By demifiend
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@higher_evolutionary: That is the most embarassing thing to have ever happened to any character.
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@demifiend said:
@doomsummers said:
@higher_evolutionary: That is the most embarassing thing to have ever happened to any character.
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#10  Edited By YoungThriller

Kingdom come supes would murder darkseid.

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#11  Edited By demifiend
oppssss 
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#12  Edited By Assman
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darkseid loses
To be fair, he was totally depowered there, and yes, that was very silly to do to him.  Anyway, as it's known and been stated and shown that regular Superman can and has more than occasionally overpowered DS, KC does it even better.  In fact, Orion in KC already took out DS and was ruling in his place.
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@demifiend said:
@doomsummers said:
@higher_evolutionary: That is the most embarassing thing to have ever happened to any character.
mmmmm 
 
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I remember those cops having cosmic cubes in there pocket for that arrest ;-)  There have been some down right amusingly funny and stupid showings in comics lol
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#14  Edited By davdjams

kc superman took a punch from hercules without as much a flinch

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#16  Edited By monarch2016

darkseid wins easy

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#17  Edited By Thor's hammmer

Superman can take.
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#18  Edited By monarch2016

@davdjams said:

kc superman took a punch from hercules without as much a flinch

darkseid had the same reaction to a suprgirl punch while he was weakened

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#19  Edited By eatmore_payless

THE HECK?! normal supes can beat the crap out of Darkseid in any day if he wants to,

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#20  Edited By monarch2016

@eatmore_payless said:

THE HECK?! normal supes can beat the crap out of Darkseid in any day if he wants to,

darkseid bitch slap superman more times

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#21  Edited By Dex_Starr

@___Living_Tribunal_22__ said:

I know Darkseid gets his ass kicked by Superman of New Earth every time they meet, but I think that's purely CIS for Darkseid. So, how do you think he'll fight against Superman of Earth-22? Battle is on The Bleed.

Rules:

- No CIS, PIS, or anything like that.
- No BFR.
- Darkseid cannot just erase him from existence.

Let the battle begin!

Darkseid
Darkseid
KC Superman
KC Superman

I'm just curious but are you trolling? Or do you honestly have no idea what you're talking about? Because Darkseid has beaten Superman on 5 or 6 occasions where Superman has beaten Darkseid at the most on 3 occassions. 1 of them with help and a power amp.

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@doomsummers said:
@higher_evolutionary: That is the most embarassing thing to have ever happened to any character.
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Exactly, no more embarassing than Thanos getting hauled off by the NYPD.

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@higher_evolutionary said:
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darkseid loses
To be fair, he was totally depowered there, and yes, that was very silly to do to him. Anyway, as it's known and been stated and shown that regular Superman can and has more than occasionally overpowered DS, KC does it even better. In fact, Orion in KC already took out DS and was ruling in his place.

I'm not sure what you mean by occassionaly because in Post Crisis continuity DS has twice as many wins against Superman as he does losses.

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@baron2011 said:

darkseid wins easy

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#23  Edited By TifaLockhart

First off, he's depowered in that mugging scan.

Second, that's from Super Powers. If you want to treat Super Powers as canon, then pkease, let me use SP Darkseid in debates from now on.

Third, Superman has Darkseid beat. Not all the time or as often as some people say, but KC Superman would trounce Darkseid.

That said, if I believed in dismissing PIS, I'd say Darkseid -should- curbstomp here.

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Darkseid, but not easily.

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@baron2011: KC Superman is by far more powerful than Supergirl and Normal Superman.

But yeah DS wins.

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#26  Edited By termiteone4ever

I like both characters but in all fairness Darkseid is in fact stronger and more powerful than any regular superman but KC Supes can give him a fight but i see Darkseid winning.

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#27  Edited By Killemall

@baron2011 said:

darkseid wins easy

Hasnt superman regularly beaten dark seid these days?? KC superman was lot more powerful i dont see why he shouldnt win.

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#28  Edited By TifaLockhart

He's beaten him twice. Once was with help. Supergirl was teleported out of harm's way, Wonder Woman deflected the Omega Beams back at Darkseid and then Superman took the fight to space where he was closer to the sun an BFR'd him into the Source Wall after breaking his arm.

Darkseid oneshotted him later in the Superman/Batman series with a punch to the Source Wall (it's confirmed in a later issue he was unconscious), had him incapacitated in Adventures of Superman 495, made him fall to his knees in New gods 10 volume 3 (he did resist though, but Darkseid needed him alive to fight Si'ivaa or however it's spelled), sent a charging Superman flying in Cosmic Odyssey, and fought him in Superman Confidential #10 until Drax stepped in. During OWAW he bloodied him with 3 punches, and then Superman hid behind the Aegis armor to avoid the Omega Effect (but in fairness, Batman and Superman bloodied him and he ran though).

Superman may have the advantage, but it's not like most people think.

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#29  Edited By Killemall

@The_Last_Son_of_Czarnia said:

He's beaten him twice. Once was with help. Supergirl was teleported out of harm's way, Wonder Woman deflected the Omega Beams back at Darkseid and then Superman took the fight to space where he was closer to the sun an BFR'd him into the Source Wall after breaking his arm.

Darkseid oneshotted him later in the Superman/Batman series with a punch to the Source Wall (it's confirmed in a later issue he was unconscious), had him incapacitated in Adventures of Superman 495, made him fall to his knees in New gods 10 volume 3 (he did resist though, but Darkseid needed him alive to fight Si'ivaa or however it's spelled), sent a charging Superman flying in Cosmic Odyssey, and fought him in Superman Confidential #10 until Drax stepped in. During OWAW he bloodied him with 3 punches, and then Superman hid behind the Aegis armor to avoid the Omega Effect (but in fairness, Batman and Superman bloodied him and he ran though).

Superman may have the advantage, but it's not like most people think.

thanks for the correction :) appreciate it.

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A quick question, does Darkseid has actual energy manipulation powers? Or all his energy manipulation are his Omega Effect that he projects from his eyes?
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#31  Edited By MrDirector786

@___Living_Tribunal_22__ said:

A quick question, does Darkseid has actual energy manipulation powers? Or all his energy manipulation are his Omega Effect that he projects from his eyes?

He has matter manipulation, but I don't really recall any instance where he showed energy manipulation outside of the use of his omega beams.

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#32  Edited By TifaLockhart

Not sure if it still stands, but he fired energy from his hands before.

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#33  Edited By YoungGunna

@LivingTribunal: Yes he does.. DS was actually projecting energy blasts out his hand in his fight with Orion during Countdown... And he takes this match also.

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He does have energy powers. But, it seems they are not on the level of other Skyfathers.
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#35  Edited By Hoboseid

@eatmore_payless said:

THE HECK?! normal supes can beat the crap out of Darkseid in any day if he wants to,

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#36  Edited By davdjams

seriously kc supes took a full on punch from hercules with the golden fleece on without flinching and then he had been under sun exposure for more than 30 years i believe ........ darkseid is gonna get pounded and anyway darkseid had been killed ny orion in the kingdom come stroyline anyway.

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#37  Edited By jeanroygrant

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KC Superman

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Darkseid

Every time Superman has matched Darkseid it was either with major help or through WIS

Post Crisis Darkseid is supposed to be the same as Pre-Crisis and Pre Crisis Darkseid laughed at Kryptonians

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KC Supes wins

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Supes slaps.