King Bradley vs Solid Snake

King Bradley from Fullmetal Alchemist vs Solid Snake from Metal Gear!

• Morals on but determined to win.
• No prep but basic knowlegde.
• Win by death, ko, or incap.
• Both get their standard gear.
• Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Bradley.
• Snake is in his prime.
• Fight takes place on the Effile Tower starting 20 feet away.

With gear I'm just gonna say Snake wins. Bradley isn't even the most powerful character he's fought.

Bradly lols at Snakes bullets and overwhelms him up close.

@nickzambuto: What gear does Snake have that would allow him to defeat Bradley?

I'd also like to call @lunacyde to the thread, since he knows of Bradley.

@highaccuser: You underestimate Snake. He has tagged characters much faster than Bradley, like Vamp, and Solidus. Tactical shooting > power. It will be Bradley who gets laughed at, if Snake were that petty.

@joewell: Guns n stuff.

Bradley closes the gap, then slice n dice on Snake

Snake loses.

His bullets are useless here. Bradley deflects high caliber machine gun fire, slices tank shells in half, and dances around rifle bullets casually.

Up close he's much faster than Snake, has the reach and weapons advantage, and most importantly can see what Snake is going to do before he does it. Add in the fact that he can pinpoint any weaknesses in Snake or his gear just by looking at them and Bradley takes a very solid majority.

@nickzambuto: Well yea, but Bradley can kinda sorta dodge bullets..

@nickzambuto: Sorry, neither Vamp nor Solidus are faster than Bradley. Nor do they have the ability to tell what Snake is going to do before he does it.

Bradley with his ultimate eye dodges and deflects snakes bullets and gets in close and ends the fight

@lunacyde: Ah, but that post exposes your ignorance of the subject at hand. Vamp DID know what Snake was going to do before he did it, Vamp can read muscle movements. It's that ability which allows him to deflect entire clips of assault rifle fire at point blank range, using just a tiny knife, with almost no effort. So tell me, what exactly separates Bradley from Vamp? Is it the fact that Bradley was skilled enough to beat up a Cyborg Ninja in a knife fight? Oh, wait, that's Vamp ;D

In raw speed Solidus is even faster. When he sprints the ground underneath him erupts into flames, he was deflecting an entire hailstorm of vulcan cannon fire with his swords (that's nearly Mach 4). Bradley is not as fast as Solidus. Hell, Bradley isn't even faster than Snake himself. It's implied in MGS2 that Snake could deflect bullets just like his brother, if he wanted, but he just "never really had a thing for blades." So he chooses to dodge bullets instead. Has Bradley proven that he can react to a hypersonic Mach 7 Railgun projectile? Can he do it at the age of 70? In the middle of a seizure? Are Bradley's reflexes THAT great? Snake's are.

@vashtanerada88 said:

Bradley closes the gap, then slice n dice on Snake

You seriously think that's what would happen? Snake would just have his arms wide and be completely overwhelmed and not even be able to think? As if Snake is some rookie? Snake will have his guard up and be ready to counter Bradley's every move with his flawless combat stance.

If Bradley comes over and starts flailing his swords around in that wide arc like a crazed monkey, he's going to get floored.

@nickzambuto: They aren't faster than Wrath. They definently aren't as good bullet timers.

King Bradley

"Call me Big Momma" ? Sounds like a porno from the 70's....

@highaccuser: What about the feats I just mentioned? They're very clearly more impressive than Bradley's feats. Bradley deflects gunfire with a sword, Vamp deflects it with a knife. Bradley runs down a tank, Vamp sprints straight across water. Soo... WHY aren't they faster?

@nickzambuto: Bradly cuts mach 3 tank shells out of the air. That requires much more precision than just blocking bullets. Besides Bradly regularly blitzes bullet timers.

Bradley would be a level 2 boss fight in Metal Gear Solid

Snake wins

Wrath wins after a somewhat difficult fight.

Snake himself can dodge tank shells so the speed gap actually isn't huge. Tank shells are gigantic targets compared to a bullet, and cutting one projectile is infinitely easier than a barrage. Just think about it, it would be a lot easier to bat a basketball than to bat a fly. I mean a LOT easier. Likewise, it's easy enough to bat one baseball, but try batting a whole barrage of them coming at you rapidly. That's the difference between a tank shell and a fully automatic rifle. So I'm still not seeing what makes Bradley any faster than Vamp. Hell, he might not even be faster than Snake. Snake has speedblitzed bullet timers too. Has Bradley ever moved at imperceptible speeds? Snake has. Has Bradley ever dodged a mach 7 Railgun projectile, in the body of a 70 year old riddled with conditions, while having a seizure? Because Snake has, his reflexes are literally THAT inhumanely sharp.

It seems like Snake just has a lot more options. He can shoot at Bradley while fending off his attacks with CQC. Eventually he'll get a bullet to slip in. That is literally how his fight with Vamp went.

@nickzambuto:

If Bradley comes over and starts flailing his swords around in that wide arc like a crazed monkey, he's going to get floored.

You honestly believe that Bradley is going to be flailing his swords like a monkey? Seriously?

Speed/Reflexes

There are numerous speed and reactionary feats for King Bradley within this video. Unfortunately for Snake, half of them are WITHOUT his ultimate eye. Bradley literally has blitz speed, not only enough to easily dodge bullets, but literally slicing through half a dozen fodder before they can lift a finger. If I can find the gif of him doing that, I'll post it.

I can't find the gif of him blocking bullets, yet. So for the following video, just watch 0:15-0:21. I mean, you can actually watch further if you like, considering it's also the video where he cuts through a tank shell, and displays certain other feats. Without his ultimate eye.

Combat/Swordsmanship

Like I said before, Bradley is a BEAST when it comes to sword-fighting, a master. And although he hasn't displayed it much, he ain't a half bad melee fighter. Not going to explain every gif I put here, but it should give you a decent idea of what Snake is dealing with. The guy is a relentless combatant, never letting up on his opponent. Snake would be pretty hard pressed finding an opportunity to retaliate. I'll probably incorporate some more speed feats into this section as well.

I could certainly post more, but I want to finish this up quickly. So we'll get straight to the last section I've got for you.

The Ultimate Eye

The Ultimate Eye is endgame. The second Bradley takes off that eyepatch, it's over for Snake.

• The eye grants Bradley a variation of precognition.
• It enables him to see the weakness of his opponent.

Bradley's mastery of swordsmanship, incredible speed, and precognition-granting ultimate eye are ultimately what would give him the win against Snake.

This Snake wanking is becoming a thing.

Move reading is not the same as Precognition. Wrath's eye doesn't only allow him to know his opponents moves beforehand, it allows him to see everything. He can see things invisible to the human eye like air currents. It can instantly take hundreds of different variables into account, as shown by when he was able to escape certain death when his train exploded crossing over a bridge by superhumanly jumping and running along the falling debris. It also instantly pinpoints weaknesses in opponents and objects. Bradley deflected tank mounted machinegun fire at roughly 3000 fps with a single cavalry sword with no effort after crossing half the country on foot. Fu and Greedling, both vey skilled and fast enough to appear as if they are teleporting during battle were unable to land a single hit on him, and all he had were knives.

Bradley has moved so fast bullet-timers weren't able to perceive that he moved. In Episode 2 of Brotherhood, during Ed's State Alchemist Exam Bradley drew his sword and cut Ed's spear so fast that he didn't even realize it. Ed has percieved and reacted to bullets after being fired multiple times in the series. In Episode one Bradley landed multiple lethal slashes on Isaac McDougal, someone who was able to fight Ed and Al pretty evenly for a time and would have killed Ed had it not been for his automail arm. Isaac was also fast enough to react to Alex Louis Armstrong's surprise alchemy attack, upon which Major Armstrong commented about his impressive reactions. Similar alchemy attacks have been fast enough to block bullets after they are fired and are nearly instantaneous. He also blitzed Lan Fan who is so fast she can move faster than the human eye and appears to nearly teleport when she fights in battle. She is also a bullet-timer, and he blitzed her from street level when she was on a structure at least 50 feet away and 40-50 feet tall.

Can I see the railgun feat? i'm curious about it.

Bradley was 60 years old when he completed all of his feats. i am not sure what age has to do with it. If you want to infer about Bradley's ability at his prime he would beat Snake even more convincingly.

Coming soon to a comicvine near you. DSS Vs. Snake

John Doe: Snake after a good fight

Sam: Snake wins especially with his gear

Velma: Well I do believe Sentry has the speed here Snake has the skill and skill >>>> speed as he's shown before so Snake 8/10.

rekt

I think Bradley would overwhelm snake physically in a fight but I think snake has a decent shot. He has faced some skilled sword fighters before and the reason Bradley ended up getting wounded before his fight with scar was because Buccaneer stabbed Bradly by using old man fu as a meat shield to block Bradleys vision and get a good shot in. Ling managed to hold his own against Bradley while protecting Lan Fan by staying in Bradleys blind side as well (his eye patch). All though when Greed tried that tactic on Bradley it just forced Bradley to remove his eye patch which made things even more difficult for Greed. Granted even if Snake does shoot Bradley he wont go down that easily unless its a lethal shot. Even after being impaled, shot in the shoulder, losing his eye, the guy was still going toe to toe with Scar, and forced scar to embrace alchemy just for scar to stand a chance. Even than IIRC Bradley had Scar beat until he got blinded by an eclipse I believe (its been a while). Still stealth is basically everything that snake is about and I feel like stealth based tactics are the most effective way to fight Bradley.

I think if snake can utilize stealth tactics on Bradley he can win. If he doesn't utilize stealth tactics successfully I think he loses personally.

Here is the feat he is referring to. I have my view on the feat but I don't feel like going into that debate again.

@nickzambuto: Bradly cut a tank shell in half. That involves having the precision to perceive it and cut through it precisely enough that it wouldn't just break the sword. Sorry but Snake and Vamp can't match that…maybe Vamp but he's clearly faster than Snake and his only bullet timing feat seems to be against Snake himself.

I wouldn't count snake out just yet. First, it should be noted that FMA brotherhood over exaggerates Bradley's abilities and speed (possibly for dramatic effect). In manga, he doesn't run quite as fast as the scenes in anime, and he doesn't deflect bullets with his sword in manga and doesn't cut a tank shell in half. He does dodge bullets easily enough, but this doesn't put him so greatly above people like vamp, solidus, or gray fox who are all superhumans that can dodge or deflect machine gun fire. Snake adequately keeps up with these fighters, so he is not automatically outclassed by someone like Bradley even if you give him the extra edge he has in brotherhood. I daresay vamp is superior to Bradley anyway. He not only dances between full automatic bullets with ease, he also runs on water. I think that is a sufficient display of his speed.

Bradley did successfully take out a tank, but snake also achieves this feat in MGS1. Snake is also pretty resourceful. It's not like he has to rely on stealth, he faces plenty of open encounters where stealth is not an option. Snake IS relatively ordinary physically, but he's kept up with the superhumans, tanks, helicopters, and metal gears from the MGSverse. Just give him some credit here. It's not a complete landslide victory in Bradley's favor. I personally can't decide.

@jashro44: Thanks for the video. I pretty much agree with your analysis.

Wrath

@vermillion0831: The version stated being used is Brotherhood version, so that doesn't matter.

Bradley wins, he can basically counter everything thrown at him.

Yeah that about sums it up Snake only has a shot if he uses Stealth to his advantage.

@marshall_long: I can't see stealth working within 20 meters on the Eiffel Tower. Otherwise agreed.

Bradley.

@sonsofalchemy: fair enough. Sorry, didn't read full set of conditions, only saw title and "king Bradley from Fma vs solid snake from mg!". Even with brotherhood incarnation of bradley, snake essentially fights fast humans that deflect automatic rifles with swords and/or people capable of dodging shots fired from them. Just saying people shouldn't automatically count him out. Bradley's ultimate eye makes things harder, but seeing future doesn't always guarantee victory. It's not as though "future sight" characters never lose in anime/games/manga/comics.

Wrath

I think Bradley can win, but Snake IMO can too. As for comparing foes to Bradely.....

Just saying. Solidus causally Mach 2 Bullet timewith ease, and then deflected Mach 3+ projectiles by the dozens from Ray.

Vamp is not slow.

Cyborg Ninja does as much as Bradley ever did.

Just saying for the speed thing.

I mostly agree with this. Bradley has a better shot probably at winning, but Snake is not outclass at all.

I go Bradley and his Ultimate Eye

Bradley definitely looks impressive, but he doesn't seem much different from foes Snake has beaten already. I think Snake has a good shot at winning.

@vashtanerada88 said:

Bradley closes the gap, then slice n dice on Snake

This won't happen considering Snake isn't a punk with barely any fighting skills like Greed is.

Lol... Bradley is A LOT faster than Snake and there's no contest there.

Still Wrath.

This is true.

So true.

Besides dat Ultimate Eye.

Snake wrecks house.

I don't even think that Bradley needs his Ultimate Eye here to win this fight soundly. I'm just not impress with the feats for MGS characters, especially with the obfuscating and misrepresentation of certain feats to blow these characters out of proportion.