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#1  Edited By KillerCroc09

Fight takes place in the Sewer, where Beast went to investigate things only to be attacked by Killer Croc, starting the fight. Who wins. 
 
 
    
 
Powers: Superhuman Strength, speed, agility, reflexes, stamina, durability, and senses. Expert swimmer, Hardened scale-like skin, Razor-sharp claws and teeth, Regenerative Healing Factor, and Experienced alligator wrestler.      
 
 
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Powers: Superhuman strength, speed, stamina, agility, flexibility, reflexes, coordination, balance, endurance, Genius level intelligence, Accelerated healing factor, Pheromone manipulation, razor sharp claws and teeth.    
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#2  Edited By deathswitch

killer croc

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#3  Edited By KillerCroc09

I say Killer Croc too.
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Beast.  Absolute mutilation.

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#5  Edited By weapon x badazz

hmm Beast
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#6  Edited By deathswitch
@Alexander Anderson said:
" Beast.  Absolute mutilation. "
well kind sir  
i absolutely disagree 
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#7  Edited By Strafe Prower

Beast
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@deathswitch said:
" @Alexander Anderson said:
" Beast.  Absolute mutilation. "
well kind sir  i absolutely disagree  "
How can Croc possibly compete with Beast?  Hank is stronger, faster, more agile and a hell of a lot smarter.  Croc couldn't even handle Mr. Zsasz.
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#9  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Strafe Prower said:
" Beast "
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#10  Edited By deathswitch
@Alexander Anderson said:
" @deathswitch said:
" @Alexander Anderson said:
" Beast.  Absolute mutilation. "
well kind sir  i absolutely disagree  "
How can Croc possibly compete with Beast?  Hank is stronger, faster, more agile and a hell of a lot smarter.  Croc couldn't even handle Mr. Zsasz. "
honestly it really doesn't matter 
i just wanted to start a debate
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#11  Edited By Zoom

Beast, easily. 
 
Stronger, faster, smarter.
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#12  Edited By KillerCroc09

Well Killer Croc is a expert swimmer and if he is in the water. Beast might not know where he is and will strike. Once that. Croc might burst out and bring him underwater to try and drown Beast. So I give a 50/50 to both actually. If there fighting in water. Killer Croc wins. But if land. Beast might win.

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#13  Edited By Zoom

Dude... 
 
Croc gets beaten up by Batman, Bane and Two-Face all the time.  He's not even peak human.
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Cat-Hank is what, somewhere in the 30-ton range strength-wise?  He'll kick Croc's teeth through the back of head without even ruffling his fur.

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#15  Edited By Sparda
@Alexander Anderson said:
" Cat-Hank is what, somewhere in the 30-ton range strength-wise?"
What the hell? When did he get that strong?
 
I remember him and Logan fighting at the beginning of Astonishing, and he barely did anything to Wolvie.
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#16  Edited By Radiante

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@Sparda said:
" @Alexander Anderson said:
" Cat-Hank is what, somewhere in the 30-ton range strength-wise?"
What the hell? When did he get that strong? I remember him and Logan fighting at the beginning of Astonishing, and he barely did anything to Wolvie. "
Didn't he almost put Logan through the ceiling with a kick?  Regardless, it was a short fight and they were both holding back quite a bit.
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#18  Edited By Sleuth

Croc is down in one punch.

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#19  Edited By Sparda
@Alexander Anderson said:
" @Sparda said:
" @Alexander Anderson said:
" Cat-Hank is what, somewhere in the 30-ton range strength-wise?"
What the hell? When did he get that strong? I remember him and Logan fighting at the beginning of Astonishing, and he barely did anything to Wolvie. "
Didn't he almost put Logan through the ceiling with a kick?  Regardless, it was a short fight and they were both holding back quite a bit. "
It's been a while since I read it, but I believe he knocked him into the ceiling (dunno bout through). They were taking shots at eachother and simultaneously did a jump attack at eachother. I think Logan might have got put through the wall. But 5 tons would be sufficient for that . Of course, I haven't been reading Astonishing much at all after that first story arc so maybe he did do something in the 30 tons range.
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#20  Edited By Phorqe

Beast...... as for the arguement "what if they were in the water?" beast is smart. He wouldn't follow a crocodile into the water.

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#21  Edited By KillerCroc09
@Phorqe: 
 
True enough.
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#22  Edited By yodagod
@Sparda:
Beast is at least that strong.  In Phoenix saga he actually lifted an oak tree that had been transmuted in to gold off Piotr.  That should actually have weighed hundreds of tons, though I doubt the writers were thinking about that and Hank's not intended to be that strong.  But even in the water Beast is so exponentially stronger he could just swim to shore and walk out and Croc could't even slow him down.  Not to mention Hank is one of the smartest people in Marvel's universe with an IQ  at least on par with Batman.  I personally think he's a quite a bit smarter since his already high-genius level intellect  increased with his mutation.
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#23  Edited By cascadeking09

 @yodagod: beast is in no way smarter than batman, he's barley even close.

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#24  Edited By Ferro Vida
@KillerCroc09 said:
" Well Killer Croc is a expert swimmer and if he is in the water. Beast might not know where he is and will strike. Once that. Croc might burst out and bring him underwater to try and drown Beast. So I give a 50/50 to both actually. If there fighting in water. Killer Croc wins. But if land. Beast might win. "
The Lizard tried that against Beast (X-Men: First Class), and even then Hank put up a decent struggle before Angel pulled him out. Since then he has gotten stronger, faster, smarter, and more experienced. Croc stands no chance here.
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#25  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@cascadeking09 said:
"  @yodagod: beast is in no way smarter than batman, he's barley even close. "
You don't have to be Albert Einstein to outsmart Croc, either.
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#26  Edited By cascadeking09
@Morpheus_: of coarse not, but beast isnt really that close to batman's intelligence. i was just sayin batman is way smarter than beast is.
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#27  Edited By Ferro Vida
@cascadeking09 said:
" @Morpheus_: of coarse not, but beast isnt really that close to batman's intelligence. i was just sayin batman is way smarter than beast is. "
Batman is a better detective. Beast is still way above average.
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#28  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@cascadeking09 said:
" @Morpheus_: of coarse not, but beast isnt really that close to batman's intelligence. i was just sayin batman is way smarter than beast is. "
Beast is an accomplished scientist...And Batman's IQ is at about 190. It is hard to determine, but I generally agree that Batman should be ranked higher in intelligence than Hank.
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#29  Edited By NightFang3

Killer Croc.

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#30  Edited By cascadeking09

 @Ferro Vida: beast is way above average, but he's hardly on batmans level as far as intelligence.

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#31  Edited By Son Of Storm

Beast.

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#32  Edited By Ferro Vida
@cascadeking09 said:
"  @Ferro Vida: beast is way above average, but he's hardly on batmans level as far as intelligence. "
I don't think the jump between them is a big as you think. They specialize in completely different fields, but both are regarded as one of the smartest in their respective universes.
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#33  Edited By cascadeking09
@Ferro Vida: no, i didnt say that there was a huge gap between them, i was just sayin batman is alot smarter. in science they're pretty close. in every other aspect of their intelligence batman is smarter. that's y i said he wasnt on batman's level, batman just knows more than beast.
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#34  Edited By Ziro

Beast.
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#35  Edited By Lost_Rellik
@Zoom said:
"Dude...  Croc gets beaten up by Batman, Bane and Two-Face all the time.  He's not even peak human. "

Exactly why Hank takes this one.
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#36  Edited By yodagod
@cascadeking09: 

I may just be out of the loop since it's been a few years since I read Batman regularly, but isn't Bruce about the fifth smartes person in DC behind the two Atoms, Mr. Terrific, and Lex Luthor? Hank is about the fifth smartest in Marvel and to me Marvel's geniuses seem to be above DCs in general.  I'd rank Ray Palmer about on par with Hank Pym.  Beast is personally responsible for some of the greatest breakthroughs and  advancments in particle physics, medicine, and genetics in Marvel's universe.  Not to mention his wide range of inventions, including a few that he made when he was only a child.  Bruce never demonstrated anything close to that when I was reading him.  Granted he's an extraordinary criminal profiler and detective, and his leadership and tactical skills are on par with Captain America, but I don't recall any really stand out super-genius moments.  I certainly don't see how you can say they're equal in science.  Genius is ultimatly all about problem solving which is why I can say with a fair degree of confidence that Bruce is a genius, but Hank has more genius level feats in a year than most people who are considered geniuses in their fields have in a lifetime.  And there's a reason for that.  It's part of his mutation to be far more intelligent than most humans can ever hope to be.  Meanwhile Bruce is still a baseline human with human-level (though very high) intellect.  Anyway after that diatribe, what I'm really getting to is this...does Bruce Wayne have any intellectual feats on par with creating anti-nanotechnology, or curing the Legacy virus, or figuring out and reverse engineering multiple alien technologies?  
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#37  Edited By Doombert

No but he is way more popular.

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#38  Edited By Ultimate Magneto

Beast wins while giving a thorough analysis and lecture on Croc's idiocy and poor combat maneuvering, and once he's finished he'll haul Croc back to the Mansion for further studying.

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#39  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
^ This sounds as accurate an analysis as I could think of. But Beast won't just win. He'll beat the hell out of Croc in the process. That is, if he doesn't KO him in the first punch. Or if Croc doesn't KO himself with a rock or something first.
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#40  Edited By DaddyCool

Beast wins this.
Croc never wins.
Poor Croc.

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#41  Edited By Knox

Killer Croc

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#42  Edited By Alberic
@DaddyCool said:
" Beast wins this. Croc never wins. Poor Croc. "
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#43  Edited By venom hybrid

Beast.
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#44  Edited By DaddyCool
@Knox said:
" Killer Croc "
why?
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#45  Edited By Knox
@DaddyCool said:
" @Knox said:
" Killer Croc "
why? "
It takes place in the sewer, Killer Corc's home turf. Croc is an expert swimmer and he knows his way around. Plus he's got a very strong skin, what's Beast gonna do when he is dragged underwater?
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#46  Edited By drkhwk2001

Beast wins easily
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#47  Edited By DaddyCool
@Knox said:
" @DaddyCool said:
" @Knox said:
" Killer Croc "
why? "
It takes place in the sewer, Killer Corc's home turf. Croc is an expert swimmer and he knows his way around. Plus he's got a very strong skin, what's Beast gonna do when he is dragged underwater? "
Beast wont be getting dragged anywhere . He can lift about 25 tons. If Croc does try and pull Hank into the water he will be in for a nasty surprise when he kicks him through a wall. I dont think his skin will be a factor here.
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#48  Edited By SUPER-MAN 23

Killer Croc

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#49  Edited By DaddyCool
@SUPER-MAN 23 said:
" Killer Croc "
How Beast is superior in every way except maybe swimming.
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#50  Edited By Matezoide2
@SUPER-MAN 23 said:
" Killer Croc "
*BEEEEEEEEEEEP*
 
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