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- Bee doesn't have Samehada

- Orochimaru is post-ressurection

- Fight to the death

- Anime/Manga feats allowed

- Combatants start 50 metres apart

- Basic knowledge, no prep

- Standard gear

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Bee.

Bee > Hebi Sasuke > Orochimaru.

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#5  Edited By WastelandMan

Killer Bee.

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#6  Edited By juiceboks  Moderator

Gyuki>Manda and white snake form.

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Bee.

Bee > Hebi Sasuke > Orochimaru.

This

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Bee

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Orcochimaru said narutos incomplete bijuu bomb would kill him if it hit him IIRC. I imagine the same should apply to bees.

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@jashro44 said:

Orcochimaru said narutos incomplete bijuu bomb would kill him if it hit him IIRC. I imagine the same should apply to bees.

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Bee vaps him

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Bee would win albeit his body was deteriorating Orochimaru did poorly against 4 tails Naruto without prep Bee wins without too much difficulty

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Bee rapes Orochimaru

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This isn't fair.

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Yeah, Bee stomps. Orochimaru doesn't really have what's necessary to go against a Jinchuriki.

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#17  Edited By Wushu59

Am I the only one that thinks Prime Orochimaru would win? The version of Sasuke, Killer B beat was very inexperienced with his new abilities and didn't even have Susano.

Sure Killer B is more powerful in terms of raw strength but Orochimaru is way too versatile.

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I don't think Orochimaru has a way to deal with complete form Gyuki, so Bee wins high diff because he gets defeated first in his human form.

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#19  Edited By MUVDCU

Hebi Sasuke was only above Orochimaru after Orochimaru fought 4 Tailed Naruto and nearly died and was severely injured.

If that exact Sasuke tried to fight 4 tailed Naruto he would've died.

Another words Orochimaru would be too much for human form Killer Bee although Killer Bee using Gyuki would win pretty easily.

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#20  Edited By Wushu59

@muvdcu said:

Hebi Sasuke was only above Orochimaru after Orochimaru fought 4 Tailed Naruto and nearly died and was severely injured.

If that exact Sasuke tried to fight 4 tailed Naruto he would've died.

Another words Orochimaru would be too much for human form Killer Bee although Killer Bee using Gyuki would win pretty easily.

Orochimaru lost all his jutsu to the 3rd Hokage part 1. Remember? He was also really sick and his arms were rotting. And despite that, he was laughing and having a good time fighting 4 Tails Naruto. A healthy Orochimaru with all of his jutsu intact should be well above 4 Tails Naruto imo.

And I doubt Sasuke would have lost to 4 Tails Naruto with his Curse Mark 2 Transformation. Oro strongly insulated that Naruto wasn't on Sasuke's level even in his 4 Tails Cloak state.

Too human? This dude treats getting sliced in half like it's a splinter. And sent 4 tails Naruto flying through the woods by impaling him with a sword through his throat and stretching his neck out like Mr. Fantastic. That's anything but human! lol

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Orochimaru has good HAXs and great versatility with an unpredictable fighting style. Orochimaru is also a tank character against blunt damage even if slashing and piercing damage is very ineffective against him due to his regeneration skills he is very durable and difficult to kill.

His blunt damage is only downward, having an above average physical strength, he has great restraint skills due to his snake / poison jutsus and fuinjutsus. The best of Orochimaru attack it is his piercing + poison which is not on the same level as Sasori but is still quite lethal.

His strongest summoning is Manda has very good offensive power high blunt damage and through bite his ability to contain large targets is very good. Orochimaru has high blunt damage when it becomes Yamata and must also be able to cause huge damage through bites. But his mobility when he turns into Yamata sucks he also has no energy attacks, his elemental futon attack sucks ...

Orochimaru, although versatile, lacks attack power compared to other rank-S shinobis (both Tsunade and Jiraiya outperform him in offensive power) the snake man has only a decent offensive potency level is only average (Rank-S) at best. Orochimaru definitely has no way of competing with the firepower of the eight tails which is a top tier.

Orochimaru is not in Killer Bee's league when it comes to close combat or sword fighting, Orochimaru is good but Killer Bee is in another league compared to Sannin.

Orochimaru's speed is good but Killer bee is even better than Akatsuki when it comes to speed

Its durability is great against physical damage and Manda is capable of tanking high-level heat attacks but it has no chance against the Biju Bomb. The attack potency difference between Orochimaru and Hachibi is very large, the energy attacks of the Biju obliterated the sannin.

In short Orochimaru is a decent Rank-S but it lacks the main to be a high-level shinobi (rank-S) that is POWER!

High destructive capacity, high level HAXs, super speed or a really broken skills like time-space jutsus

Killer bee wins

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@wushu59: Your reading comprehension is atrocious. I never said Orochimaru was too human. I said Orochimaru beats Killer Bee in his Human form but when he goes tailed beast most he slowly starts losing.

Sasuke would get owned by 4 tailed Naruto.

He barely kept up with 1 tailed Naruto in Curse Mark 2. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Sasuke became quite literally 5 times more powerful in every way in that time.

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#23  Edited By Wushu59
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@wushu59: Your reading comprehension is atrocious. I never said Orochimaru was too human. I said Orochimaru beats Killer Bee in his Human form but when he goes tailed beast most he slowly starts losing.

Sasuke would get owned by 4 tailed Naruto.

He barely kept up with 1 tailed Naruto in Curse Mark 2. There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Sasuke became quite literally 5 times more powerful in every way in that time.

My bad, I didn't catch that.

Part One 1 Sasuke barely kept up with 1 Tail Naruto. But defeated him as soon as he entered his Curse Mark 2.

Hebi Sasuke is leagues and leagues ahead of Part 1 Sasuke. He solo'd Naruto, Sakura, Sai, & Yamato at the beginning of the series at same time. (Paralyzed Yamato a Jonin and former Anbu)

And he beat Deidara. (a guy strong enough to fight tailed beast on his own)

If sick Orochimaru is laughing and having fun while fighting 4 Tails Naruto. And Sasuke is stronger then sick Orochimaru. Then logically Sasuke should be above 4 Tails Naruto at that point.

That and Orochimaru kept on saying it. Kishimoto wouldn't have Orochimaru keep saying that over & over again if that wasn't the case.

5x stronger in every way is an understatement.

He went from Chunin Level in combat (Part 1) to Kage Level in combat. (Shippuden)

There was also that scene where he took down 100 people at the same time without killing anyone. (I still consider beating Deidara the more impressive feat, but that's just to further add on to my point.)

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@wushu59: This is Orochimaru 100 percent health though. So he can use Jutsu.

He would crap on that Sasuke. The Sasuke that killed Orochimaru would get decimated by Naruto 4 tails. He wouldn't have an answer. Nothing he could do would even affect him. You probably don't remember the fight properly but Orochimaru hit him with the sword and the sword couldn't pierce his skin and Orochimaru applied literally hundreds of thousands of tons of Force behind it. I know it was a crapton of force because 4 tailed Naruto blocked it and was dragged for miles across the ground making a 5 to 10 foot deep chasm for the entire length. Sasuke couldn't possibly replicate that amount of force with anything he could do at that time.

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Misleading posts here. Sasuke straight up admits he fought a weakened version of Orochimaru. Orochimaru > Sasuke usually.

Bee is still shitting on Orochimaru.

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@wushu59: Sasuke and Narutos fight in part 1 was straight up high tier Jonin level.

So Sasuke went from High Jonin to Low/mid Kage level. That is literally 1 maybe 2 tiers up.

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#28  Edited By Wushu59

@muvdcu: Bro, what exactly are you going on about?

I'm not even arguing with you that Sasuke wouldn't beat 100% Orochimaru. I agree that 100% Oro would probably beat Sasuke

But I just gave you multiple reasons why Sasuke would beat 4 Tails Naruto. Sick Orochimaru was nearly = 4 Tails Naruto

He beat Deidara (a S-Rank Kage level ninja who should also be able to beat 4 tails Naruto)

Kirin should be more then enough to take him out. (You know, the same move he used on Itachi before Susano)

He also had Manda at that point.

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@wushu59: I honestly don't think that Deidara would beat 4 tailed Naruto.

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@muvdcu said:

@wushu59: I honestly don't think that Deidara would beat 4 tailed Naruto.

Even though Akatsuki member's are constantly shown casually taking care of Tailed Beast. And Naruto isn't even fully cloaked yet.

Deidara even being smart and tactical enough to kidnap Gaara without killing him.

tbh Deidara would easily kill Naruto if he went all out

Naruto has no way of avoiding C4 when his mind is gone.

But anyways... This thread is suppose to be about Orochimaru vs Killer B...

Orochimaru is bound to have something that can deal with Bee

He has the most Jutsu out of any character in the entire series

We just haven't seen it all. (Mainly because the Third Hokage)

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Current Orochimaru would win..Don't you realize how strong he truly is right now?

Sage Mode

Wood Style (He absorbs Zetsu body remember?)

Have all 5 transformation's + Yin & Yang

Insane amount of jutsu's

Orochimaru is behind Naruto & Sasuke as the 3rd strongest shinobi.

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Orochimaru is behind Naruto & Sasuke as the 3rd strongest shinobi.

Nope. Not even close.

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@wushu59: Shukaku is dramatically weaker than Kurama. He put the strongest Biju in the strongest coutries so they could handle them. Also If Gaara was away from the town he would've beaten Deidara. Gaara only lost because he used up a crap ton of Chakra blocking his attacks so he didn't destroy the sand village and kill 10k plus people. And lol at the Akatsuki comment on taking out Biju in groups of two the Strongest Akatsuki member went after Naruto and lost. And he was literally tiers above the other Members.

Even 4 tailed Naruto would be solidly above most pairs of the Akatsuki. Only people like Pain could mess with him.

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@muvdcu: How does Naruto defend against C4 in 4 Tails state when he can't think?

You have to take in account that Deidara was holding back against Gaara so he wouldn't kill him as well.

He should be smart enough to handle Naruto with 4 tails cloak . Fighting isn't just about brute strength.

4 Tails Naruto was only = to sick Orochimaru.

How is he suppose to beat Akatsuki members other then Hidan?

Naruto didn't beat Akatsuki as 4 Tails. He used Rasen Shuriken. That's different.

6 Tails would be a problem. 4 Tails? Not nearly.

Again this is suppose to be about Oro & Killer Bee.

Not Naruto. :P

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Orochimaru takes this. Base to base, Orochimaru outclasses Bee due to his hax. If he manages to put a curse mark on Bee, it'd be game over and Orochimaru would win. Even if he doesn't do that, he still has a crap ton of summons, implied to have crazy amounts of jutsu at his arsenal, and could even summon 3 hokages if edo tensei is unrestricted.

Bee would be forced to go full 8 tails just to deal with Orochimaru but even then I don't see him having a good time. Orochimaru can very easily summon Manda and that three headed snake that he used to attack the leaf village. He also has his triple rashomon if bee decides to go for a bijuu bomb. His 8 headed hydra form, which was able to push back Itachi's susanoo, could contend with the 8 tails if paired with Manda and other summons.

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@wushu59: You are silly if you think C4 would work on Naruto 4 tails. His chakra was burning things that even came close to himm. The only thing that Deidara has that I think might hurt 4 Tails Naruto would be his self-destruction attack and honestly tailed beast might see that and then just to come like six tails and stop it.

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@wushu59: 4 tailed Naruto was destroying Orochimaru while he was slightly weaker than normal FTFY. Orochimaru wasn't really sick until after losing.

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@wushu59: I think we are gonna just have to agree to disagree on several points.

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@muvdcu: Why are we still talking about 4 Tails Naruto?

Ummmm. Why wouldn't it work? C4 aren't bombs. They attack him on a molecular level.

Lightning style is used to defuse regular bombs anyway. Which Naruto doesn't have.

If anything 4 Tails mode puts him at a disadvantage. Because it's not quite strong enough.

Kishimoto made it very clear what tier 4 Tails was in via Orochimaru statements.

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@wushu59: If you think a chakra cloaked Naruto is going to be breathing chakra bombs you are seriously delusional.

Next you are gonna say that the Omega Reds Death Pheromones effected the Human Torch.

Just because lightning style cancels them out does not mean that is the only way to cancel them out.

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#42  Edited By Wushu59

@muvdcu said:

@wushu59: If you think a chakra cloaked Naruto is going to be breathing chakra bombs you are seriously delusional.

Next you are gonna say that the Omega Reds Death Pheromones effected the Human Torch.

Just because lightning style cancels them out does not mean that is the only way to cancel them out.

Duuuude. Make a separate thread about 4 Tails Naruto instead of clogging this one.

You're delusional for thinking this fodder version of Naruto relative to sick & handicapped Orochimaru is a match for Sasuke let alone members of the Akatsuki.

You're just using nonsensical head canon now. Naruto doesn't breathe now????? Cause you say soooo??? Even if C4 some how doesn't work C3 would do just fine.

Yamato of all people dealt with 4 Tails Naruto. o.O

Orochimaru stated multiple times while he was fighting him that 4 Tails Naruto wasn't in Hebi Sasuke's leauge.

That's like direct conformation from Kishimoto himself.

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@wushu59: Also did you say C4 are not bombs? They are literally microscopic Bombs. That is C4 he sends out billions of tiny little bombs and theoretically any living thing that breathes them in gets Disintegrated. That attack takes time to get ready though and even if he did there is no reason to believe a 100 percent chakra covered Naruto 4 tailed Naruto wouldn't passively be Destroying or overpowering any Chakra that he tried to breath in.

Orochimaru literally would have died if he Didn't summon the Ginormous nearly indestructible demon gates.

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#44  Edited By Wushu59

@muvdcu: And guess what, he didn't. 4 Tails Naruto couldn't even kill Handicap Orochimaru.

How long did it take Sasuke to beat this same version of Orochimaru?......... Exactly.

Make a different thread about 4 Tails Naruto & stop clogging this one. :P

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Bee wins in a stomp

I seriously doubt Oro has what it takes to take down a Bijuu

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Current Orochimaru would win..Don't you realize how strong he truly is right now?

Sage Mode

Wood Style (He absorbs Zetsu body remember?)

Have all 5 transformation's + Yin & Yang

Insane amount of jutsu's

Orochimaru is behind Naruto & Sasuke as the 3rd strongest shinobi.

Basically this. This is the same dude that killed The 3rd Kazakage & 3rd Hokage. And now he's stronger then ever.

He could easily be 3rd strongest from the Leaf Village.

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@wushu59: Yamato had Sealing techniques and the First Hokages DNA. That literally proves nothing. Orochimaru could use Jutsu he summoned things. He was not nearly as Handicapped as you are letting on. No other Akatsuki member except for Pain could deal with 4 tailed Naruto. They would all get wrecked.

Four tailed Naruto no sold Orochimaru 100 percent. He didn't just beat him Orochimaru was about to die and would have if Yamato didn't seal him. Orochimaru was laughing at first but literally barely escaped with his life. It's kinda funny because I believe Orochimaru healthy would probably beat Bee. So you have been arguing with me for virtually no reason.

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#49  Edited By SaitamaIchiban

@muvdcu said:

@wushu59: Yamato had Sealing techniques and the First Hokages DNA. That literally proves nothing. Orochimaru could use Jutsu he summoned things. He was not nearly as Handicapped as you are letting on. No other Akatsuki member except for Pain could deal with 4 tailed Naruto. They would all get wrecked.

Four tailed Naruto no sold Orochimaru 100 percent. He didn't just beat him Orochimaru was about to die and would have if Yamato didn't seal him. Orochimaru was laughing at first but literally barely escaped with his life. It's kinda funny because I believe Orochimaru healthy would probably beat Bee. So you have been arguing with me for virtually no reason.

Eh..... 4 Tails wasn't that powerful. I could easily see a Itachi, Kisame or Deidara dealing with him based on Orochimaru's performance. He'd beat Hidan at best.