KCM2 Naruto vs Gear 5 Luffy

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@lexa59: It's not a PIS moment.

This is no different from Sasuke teleporting his sword into Madara.

I may be wrong, but Shin Uchiha can manipulate weapons with his Mangekyu and Seal, as he has already shown, and not teleport him like Rinnegan Sasuke.

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@lexa59: Regardless, it's Sasuke's sword, the same sword that can stab Madara being manipulated by supernatural means.

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@lexa59 said:

@kajin_style: Are you seriously trying to use PIS moment for an Adult Naruto when his younger version has already shown feats that allow him to withstand attacks at the mountain level and above without problems.

Base Naruto withstood the explosion of his own chakra.

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In which shit post? Cause I do a lot of them all over the site, lol.

If it is in regards to the Naruto-sword image that's a shit post counter to an idiot thinking any sort of slash attack is a weakness to Luffy which it isn't and never was.

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@kajin_style: If you teleport something into something else that can ignore defenses.

Review the image. The sword was thrust into Naruto. There would be no reason there is blood along the entire length or his cloak following down the path of the blade.

The entire story of Baruto is busted and shouldn't be referenced.

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#106  Edited By Kajin_Style
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@kajin_style: Well normal swords wouldn't do anything to Juudara yet this one did.

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@requiemcross said:
@kajin_style said:

Where does it say this?

Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

Where does it specifically state "Shin's eyes can ignore Naruto/anyone's defense."

Lol. It was shown on panel.

Gonna wait for that magic panel.

Wow, how did you missed it when I tagged you specifically to that scan? The statements are boxed in red color in case that you missed them again.

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Yup that's not it. All I see is his eye teleporting a sword.

Which is the power of Shin Uchiha's eyes.

Nothing about ignoring Naruto's defenses.

Lol. It's funny how you say that after the on panel feat shows how the sword ignores Naruto's defense

That's just your head canon making it up.

Unfortunately for you, it was shown on panel in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

No amount of your denial will change that on panel feat. Lol

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@kajin_style: Well normal swords wouldn't do anything to Juudara yet this one did.

That is headcanon talk. There's nothing noteworthy of the sword and it has never been implied. We are just assuming it is something amazing when at most it is something mediocre.

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@kajin_style said:
@requiemcross said:

s eye teleporting a sword.

Which is the power of Shin Uchiha's eyes.

Nothing about ignoring Naruto's defenses.

Lol. It's funny how you say that after the on panel feat shows how the sword ignores Naruto's defense

That's just your head canon making it up.

Unfortunately for you, it was shown on panel in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

No amount of your denial will change that on panel feat. Lol

An eye teleporting a sword does not mean it somehow enhances the blade. It is a basic +1 sword from DnD or something, it is practically useless.

Again, it is just your headcanon. The panel is a PIS by the author, stop defending an obvious anti-feat. This is silly. Honestly, you all be better off dropping Baruto as canon material until there are some impressive panels to back up the scaling claims they make.

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@requiemcross said:
@kajin_style said:
@requiemcross said:

s eye teleporting a sword.

Which is the power of Shin Uchiha's eyes.

Nothing about ignoring Naruto's defenses.

Lol. It's funny how you say that after the on panel feat shows how the sword ignores Naruto's defense

That's just your head canon making it up.

Unfortunately for you, it was shown on panel in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

No amount of your denial will change that on panel feat. Lol

An eye teleporting a sword does not mean it somehow enhances the blade. It is a basic +1 sword from DnD or something, it is practically useless.

Lol. No amount of your downplay will change the fact that the powers given to Shin Uchiha by his Mangekyou Sharingan allows him to ignore the defense of Hokage Naruto. It was stated on panel and your attempt to contradict it is quite hilarious.

Again, it is just your headcanon.

Again, Unfortunately for you, it was shown on panel in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

The panel is a PIS by the author

Lol. Clearly not as proven by the Mangekyo Sharingan of both Uchiha Obito and Uchiha Shin

, stop defending an obvious anti-feat.

Lol. It was quite obvious that it was not an anti feat given by the power of Mangekyou Sharingan shown in the entire series.

This is silly.

Your attempt to down play is, quite hilarious on how you contradict the on panel feat and statement in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

Honestly, you all be better off dropping Baruto as canon material until there are some impressive panels to back up the scaling claims they make.

Lol. Why are you bringing up the Boruto manga when the event that we are discussing happened in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage manga?

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@kajin_style said:

An eye teleporting a sword does not mean it somehow enhances the blade. It is a basic +1 sword from DnD or something, it is practically useless.

Lol. No amount of your downplay will change the fact that the powers given to Shin Uchiha by his Mangekyou Sharingan allows him to ignore the defense of Hokage Naruto. It was stated on panel and your attempt to contradict it is quite hilarious.

Again, it is just your headcanon.

Again, Unfortunately for you, it was shown on panel in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

The panel is a PIS by the author

Lol. Clearly not as proven by the Mangekyo Sharingan of both Uchiha Obito and Uchiha Shin

, stop defending an obvious anti-feat.

Lol. It was quite obvious that it was not an anti feat given by the power of Mangekyou Sharingan shown in the entire series.

This is silly.

Your attempt to down play is, quite hilarious on how you contradict the on panel feat and statement in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage ch 6.

Honestly, you all be better off dropping Baruto as canon material until there are some impressive panels to back up the scaling claims they make.

Lol. Why are you bringing up the Boruto manga when the event that we are discussing happened in Naruto Gaiden the seventh Hokage manga?

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@kajin_style: Well, normal swords wouldn't do anything to Juudara yet this one did.

That is headcanon talk. There's nothing noteworthy of the sword and it has never been implied. We are just assuming it is something amazing when at most it is something mediocre.

This makes zero sense.

We've seen the sword outperform normal swords. I mean, just read/watch the show.

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No sells Orochimaru's sword

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no sells three swords

Not to mention Sasuke's Chidori doing nothing to him.

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#115 Marsz1pan  Online

G5 Luffy Wins

Future sight honestly is a huge advantage considering the characters is speed wise so close. Even with Naruto AOE attacks it's no use if you see it coming. Just like how katakuri stopped Luffy from using Gear 4th. I think people underestimate it severely how much of a advantage it is in a fight. This isn't including Conquers Coating which would block any attack that Naruto manages to land or reduce it's effectiveness at the very least. Not to mention physicals.

Luffy hits Naruto and he will be hurting. Not to mention in G5 he can literally change his shape to become giant (Island) sized and shrink down just as fast , Fly , internal damage , varied attacks and also people forget since Luffy is a Zoan he has better recovery (pretty much low level regeneration) which makes him hard to put down.

SO6P Naruto is a different story of course.

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@marsz1pan: Clones counter most of this, and Naruto has better regeneration and stats.

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Dressrosa Luffy is enough.

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Shinobi amp and manipulate their weaponry using their chakra , the piercing Arguments Regarding it are outdated

This time the wind blows from the valley’s bottom and then one white petal in particular falls a couple of feet in front of Sasuke as it danced and he aimed the shuriken into it.

Sasuke throws the paper shuriken in a gesture, it is now flowing with it’s speed and exact calculations that cannot be compared to how the brothers did it.

And the shuriken pierce the petal that are aimed as Sasuke hits them perfectly.

“Oh!”

“Wow!”

“Amazing, just amazing!”

“You are so cool!”

The brothers expressed their excitement with their mouths open wide.

“The trick much of it is on the intensity of the paper, or you can use your chakra,

- Akatsuki Hiden Prologue

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Idk what's really impressive about nardo fodder physical durability, getting folded by physically weaker non juubi limbo than 8th gate guy was garbage ass tier showing.

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The burrito's dad wankers be like.

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BM Naruto vs. G5 Luffy is the closest matchup you can make between the characters.

BSM no diffs G5 and BM no diffs anything below G5.

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Base luffy oneshots BSM naruto

G5 Oneshots so6p naruto

Keep coping..

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Current Luffy as Yonko/Admiral should be on par with Sage Mode Hashirama maybe slightly stronger since they have drastically superior stats.

BSM naruto is a better match up.

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@kajin_style said:
@wk_decaff said:

@kajin_style: Well, normal swords wouldn't do anything to Juudara yet this one did.

That is headcanon talk. There's nothing noteworthy of the sword and it has never been implied. We are just assuming it is something amazing when at most it is something mediocre.

This makes zero sense.

We've seen the sword outperform normal swords. I mean, just read/watch the show.

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Not to mention Sasuke's Chidori doing nothing to him.

Orochimaru's sword is unique.

The sword can quickly extend and retract its blade to attack from long distances, be controlled telekinetically according to Orochimaru's command, and cut through almost anything. Even Enma, who is able to transform into a diamond-hard staff, noted that the Kusanagi blade would leave him considerably sore.[1] It should be noted that Orochimaru's Kusanagi could not pierce Naruto Uzumaki's four-tailed form.[2] The sword has been seen transforming into a small snake and returning to Orochimaru.[3]

https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_of_Kusanagi_(Orochimaru)

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Sasuke's sword isn't.

The chokutō Sasuke Uchiha referred to as a Sword of Kusanagi was his personal weapon throughout the entirety of Part II. It had a black scabbard and matching hilt, and was a larger size than a normal chokutō. It had none of the natural specialities as the oneOrochimaru wields, such as the extension of the blade and the ability to cut through almost anything, both of which are natural attributes of the Kusanagi, but it was repeatedly shown to be very durable and able to cut through various materials.

https://naruto.fandom.com/wiki/Sword_of_Kusanagi_(Sasuke_Uchiha)

Infact people aren't even sure if it is same sword or not in Baruto, cause we aren't given enough information about it, yet we see it do nothing special beyond-- well not breaking. That's about it. Meanwhile in One Piece we get plenty of lore regarding all the powerful swords and weapons; we get name drops to the creators of these things; unique effects some may have (aka cursed).

Yet for Naruto, we get next to nothing about the special sword carried by the 2nd main protag of the series. I am mad for you, bro. I rather see some cool concrete lore, versus dealing with people's wild speculations.

The only truly special thing we can say about the sword is it doesn't break. That's it.

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@marsz1pan: Clones counter most of this, and Naruto has better regeneration and stats.

Any Gatling attack >>> Naruto Clones.

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Naruto wins, even though I haven't scaled One Piece in a long I don't believe that Luffy would have a huge jump to equal Naruto's bijuu mode Ap. I believe both are higher than light speed but I suppose speed is equal cause of that. Naruto has better abilities, only thing I can see helping Luffy would be his future sight, he definitely has more stuff but as I said, I haven't scaled one piece in a long time so idk if he does or doesn't. Doubt he has stuff against this vers of Naruto tho.

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@kajin_style: How so? Naruto's clones can dodge plus there's thousands, and he can make more.

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@kajin_style: You just debunked yourself.

Oro = unique = can't puncture a MUCH weaker Naruto

Sasuke = Not Unique = easily puncture a MUCH stronger Naruto

You're not making any sense.

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Probably beats BM. Might lose to BSM tho since sage mode is an over 10x multiplier but who knows.

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Beats anything below six paths

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@edgelord91: bsm blocked a moon splitting attack. Show me anything in one piece on that level

dont even say "hollow moon weak attack" because the scale and destruction is still much larger than anything in one piece

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Naruto sends a clone to solo the verse

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@notaname: I thought we were talking war arc not the last or adult

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@edgelord91: because you said "beats anything below 6 paths"

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@notaname: yeah. BSM and six paths were both introduced during the war arc and previous post on this page referenced the ten tails not kaguya or momoshiki

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the mental gymnastics from naruto wankers is insane

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Base Luffy oneshots bm naruto

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Base Luffy blitzes and oneshots

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If kcm2 is bijuu mode then G5 Luffy stomps with mid diff assuming it’s adult Naruto in kcm2

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This is teen Naruto so gear 4th is enough.

Anything below teen six paths is losing

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Just realized versions were specified lol everyone just assumed war arc version.

Adult BSM fodderizes luffy

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#150  Edited By Wushu59

Gear 5th Luffy can beat any version of Naruto.