KATARA Vs MAKO (progression battle)

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so this is a progression battle between katara and mako.

Location: All battles take place at the crystal catacombs

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ROUND 1

B1 KATARA VS B1 MAKO

ROUND 2

B2 KATARA VS B2/B3 MAKO

ROUND 3

EOS KATARA VS EOS MAKO

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1: Mako

2 and 3: Katara

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Round 1: Mako stomps with his pro-bending feats.

Rounds 2 & 3: Katara just outclasses him, although he puts up a very good fight round 2.

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#5  Edited By CrystalGemLuva

Mako wins round 1 fairly eaisly, despite not being as physically gifted as people like Zuko his skill is more than enough keep up Katara especially outside of the North Pole, Mako also isnt going to be as vunerable to the water whip as Azula was since he has instant lightning generation.

Mako might win round 2 with his instant lightning trick but overall Katara is the more skilled bender between the two.

And in round three that instant lightning is the only thing preventing Mako from losing in under a minute because unlike Ming-Hua Katara can pull water from the air.

The problem is that Mako unlike Katara, Bolin, Zuko, ETC never really improved after season 1, he has some decent feats but nothing that really proves that he's ever better than he was in season 1, out of all the benders in both versions of team Avatar Mako is at the bottom of the list in terms of skill followed by Zuko.

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Round 1 and 2 Mako, Round 3 Katara..

Can see Mako beating her Round 3 also unless he still have the broken arm.. Tho I bet money on Katara a small majority

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@crystalgemluva:

The problem is that Mako unlike Katara, Bolin, Zuko, ETC never really improved after season 1, he has some decent feats but nothing that really proves that he's ever better than he was in season 1, out of all the benders in both versions of team Avatar Mako is at the bottom of the list in terms of skill followed by Zuko.

Mako definitely improved over the course of the series. In season 2, he showed massively better power than in season 1, and his performance against Ming Hua improved dramatically over the course of S2, going from losing to her quickly (Oasis), to holding her off for an extended period of time (Northern Air Temple) to beating her outright under favorable conditions (Venom of the Red Lotus). He went from losing to the Liuetenant to beating Ming Hua, he definitely improved.

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This is a clean sweep for Katara.

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@anthp2000: Really you think book 1 Katara is capable of beating Mako?

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#11  Edited By CrystalGemLuva

@mialthefencer: even after her training with Pakku nothing season 1 Katara has done really puts her on the same level as season 1 Mako

do you have any feats that say otherwise? preferably ones that don't rely on being in the North Pole at night?

@anthp2000:

regarding Ming-Hua that had more to do with location, in their first fight, Ming-Hua had a steady supply of water while in the second fight her water supply was limited until they went down that underwater pond where Mako could easily zap her.

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Mako round 1 and 2 round 3 is 50/50

Instant lightning is stronger than you think and mako is decently agile. His entire style is dedicated to 1v1 fights or smaller groups

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R1: The only chance she would have to beat him is if the location was in a place such as one of the poles but she had just recently learned the fundamentals by the end of book 1 and was t the most impressive

R2: Katara was impressive throughout this season but her feats in the crystal cavern gave me giving it to her, she has the skills to get around his big blasts and she showed in her fight with zuko the maneuverability to not be stationary enough or use does she use enough water for instant lightning to be a viable option towards victory like he did against Ming hua

R3: I don’t remember his feats from EOS but I didn’t think he did anything good enough to challenge EOS katara whos quite the beast

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S1 he has incredible force https://gfycat.com/remorsefulgrayaustralianshelduck and accuracy with his lightning https://gfycat.com/palealarmingaustraliankestrel

Look at the speed and precision he has with his fire its close to azula level in terms of speed and accuracy https://gfycat.com/frayedyoungglowworm-firebending-mako

His prolonged lightning is extremely powerful katara is not tanking that(also was being bloodbended so it wasnt at full power) https://gfycat.com/leadingimpassionedcub

If he gets close and grabs her hes flinging her far away https://gfycat.com/redbogusisabellinewheatear-mako

Fire jets in season 1 which gives him psuedo flight and increased speed https://gfycat.com/tiredbasickingbird

S2 he shatters ice wall put up by dark avatar unalaq and pushes him back a bit https://gfycat.com/naughtyunripekawala

Amazing firepower here https://gfycat.com/lawfulsatisfieddungbeetle he does this in a battlefield thats not good for firebenders and without much charging time

Him tanking unalaq water which can shatter stone https://gfycat.com/tastyfilthyayeaye


S3 he went from getting stomped by ming hua to putting up fight against ghazan and ming hau top 10 master benders alive at the time

https://gfycat.com/boringcalmbackswimmer

https://gfycat.com/inexperiencedseparatecanine

https://gfycat.com/snarlinghairyfox note his fire jet speed and him pressuring her

Fire bending good enough to dispel water https://gfycat.com/snoopylightheartedicelandgull

Pushing back lavabending https://comicvine.gamespot.com/images/1300-4411955

S4 he dont have as much good feats besides the lightning core feat

So yeah he is pretty strong

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Round 1 Mako should win, season 1 Katara was inexperienced and relatively clumsy as a fighter, even if she was the superior bender, something mako should be able to captilise on.

Round 2 Katara wins mid diff, he's done nothing Azula hasn't done better and Katara handled her just fine.

Round 3 Katara clowns mako. Come back when Mako produces cliff high explosions or warship sized lightning bolts.

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@crystalgemluva:

regarding Ming-Hua that had more to do with location, in their first fight, Ming-Hua had a steady supply of water while in the second fight her water supply was limited until they went down that underwater pond where Mako could easily zap her.

That's true, but I'm talking about things like this:

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In their first fight, Ming could completely overpower Mako.

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In their second fight, they were more on par.

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And in their third fight, Mako straight up evaporated her arms, which is what allowed him to take advantage of Ming's lack of water.

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Round 1 Mako should win, season 1 Katara was inexperienced and relatively clumsy as a fighter, even if she was the superior bender, something mako should be able to captilise on.

Round 2 Katara wins mid diff, he's done nothing Azula hasn't done better and Katara handled her just fine.

Round 3 Katara clowns mako. Come back when Mako produces cliff high explosions or warship sized lightning bolts.

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Round 1: Mako can win because he has superior physicals and lightning. Katara is the superior at bending at this point, but it's not enough to take him out. Mako 6/10.

Rounds 2&3: Katara wins easily. Her large sized feats can take on anything he throws at her. Katara 8-9/10 only giving Mako 1 or 2 due to lightning.

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#21  Edited By thebluedragon20  Online

R1: mako. Katara was a pretty sub par water bender at the end of book 1 while mako and in book 1 was a pretty above par fire bender. He has everything he needs to beat katara.

R2&3: katara grew exponentially between every book and learned such a wide variety of techniques and grew so much in raw power that mako just can't compete.

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#23  Edited By Viking1205

R1: Mako takes this easily. He has higher mastery of the element than Katara at this point of the storyline.

R2: Katara has this. Katara beating Azula seals this round for me.

R3: Katara clowns him. Her growth rate was exponential by this time. She's above his paygrade.

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#24  Edited By MorbusGrav

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R2: Katara has this. Katara beating Azula seals this round for me.

Saying Mako is worse than a that terribly jobbing Azua is selling him a bit short i think though, he still has instant lightning.

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#25  Edited By JDogg

R1 Mako bcs he has lightning.

2-3 Katara easily beats Mako.

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#26  Edited By ANTHP2000

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@anthp2000: Really you think book 1 Katara is capable of beating Mako?

Yes, I just rewatched both LoK and TLA so I'm pretty sure I'm not blanking on anything either. Mako and Bolin weren't very good in Book 1, at all. Amon's leutenant destroyed them in like 20 seconds together, and I don't think Mako ever defeated a single chi blocker in a fight either. Pro-bending was clearly a very bad fighting style to use in actual, real world combat. Meanwhile, Katara was pretty much Zuko's equal after training with Master Pakku. There's a great difference between her throughout the season and in the finale. I think people are focusing on the fact that Katara was untrained for the majority of the season.

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She manages to keep up with every one of Zuko's attacks, and she actually managed to get him inside the lake in the first few seconds of the fight and encase him in ice, which Mako won't have a counter for. And the final flash freeze is definitely a superior showcase of power than what we saw from Mako in Book 1. And while it's true that this was performed at night time - which isn't that great a boost in the first place if we're being honest - she has demonstrated similar raw power at sunlight.

Book 1: Siege of the North I
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Which is also more impressive power than Mako's. Now, lightning generation could be an issue if Mako opened with it, but he never does so, and it's not like Katara's lacking in high speed attacks.

Book 1: The Waterbending Master
Book 1: The Waterbending Master

This technique both impressed and almost got Master Pakku, probably the greatest waterbending grandmaster in the world, and that was while Katara was merely a self trained novice. Good chance it's enough to keep Mako off balance and prevent any openings to shoot lightning, esspecially given a very specific form is required to generate a bolt. That is if it doesn't outright cut of his face.

Really, outside of better animation speed visually, I'm not as impressed by Mako. She took on a superior bender and fighter in Zuko, and showed much better technique and power in her scenes with Pakku, before and after he trained her.

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@anthp2000: you are kind of right season 1 mako was shit he lost to some fodder chi-blockers and as for the pro bending feat it was quite useless.

I know katara was inexperienced in for most part of season 1 but the north pole feat is more than enough to beat mako.

Round 2 and 3 are is kind of a joke especially round 3 Eos katara is the most most powerful water bender in the whole avatar series and mako did nothing through out the series he would even lose to unilaq twins.

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Katara could win all, or could lose the first and win the rest.

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@jdogg said:

R1 Mako bcs he has lightning.

2-3 Katara easily beats Mako.

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#30  Edited By IndomitableRegal

R1) Mako handily.

R2) Mako by a little bit.

R3) Katara stomps.

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@mialthefencer: He didn’t beat Ming Hua. First she ran out of water and then fixed this by finding a larger source. She was then completely surrounded by water and did not know Mako could generate lightning. She lost completely due to the location, and had already effortlessly stomped Mako before and was able to keep Mako and Bolin subdues.

OT: Katara wins all rounds. Round 1 is the closest but even with relatively limited water she defeated Zuko and only really lost due to a surprise attack she wasn’t fully prepared for.

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@emmafrostxmen:

He didn’t beat Ming Hua.

He literally killed her. It's not the same as beating her under completely neutral circumstances, but he won.

First she ran out of water and then fixed this by finding a larger source.

She ran out of water because he evaporated her arms. He couldn't do that in their first fight or at Zaofu, but was able to in the finale.

She was then completely surrounded by water and did not know Mako could generate lightning.

Mako was also surrounded by water, and managed to dodge several water arms in quick succession while ankle deep in water at close range to electrocute her. It's a good feat for him.

She lost completely due to the location, and had already effortlessly stomped Mako before and was able to keep Mako and Bolin subdues.

My point is that Mako improved over the course of S3, doing better against Ming in each of their successive encounters, not that he's actually better than she is under neutral circumstances (because he isn't).

OT: Katara wins all rounds. Round 1 is the closest but even with relatively limited water she defeated Zuko and only really lost due to a surprise attack she wasn’t fully prepared for.

She beat Zuko because he was distracted by Aang:

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She really isn't fast enough to fight Mako, who's got surprisingly good combat speed in B1 thanks to his pro-bending experience:

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Mako is probably capable of just blasting through the water defenses she was using against Zuko with a fireblast:

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And Katara has absolutely no way of dealing with Mako's instant lightning, which he is very much a go-to in-character for Mako in book 1:

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Book 1 Mako is definitely above book 1 Katara.

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@mialthefencer: Combat speed in pro-bending is not the same under normal circumstances, since they are following a strict set of rules. Pro-bending is not really good to use in general as they can't use head shots, strikes from different angles, step over the line, unnecessary roughness, continuous streams of water, ice, etc. And all the pro-benders aside from the Fire Ferrets are fodder.

Zuko wasn't distracted by Aang in that fight, he was failing multiple times to get past Katara head on so he had to run past her to grab Aang. He barely grabs onto Aang's shirt when Katara blats him away and then finish him off in a flash freeze. He was also firebending inches away from Katara's face, without having the safety and distance of the pro-bending lines.

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Combat speed in pro-bending is not the same under normal circumstances, since they are following a strict set of rules.

Why not? Attacks are still attacks:

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Dodging six attacks in quick succession from a team of opponents is impressive.

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Dodging attacks from two different angles while not even slowing down on your own stream of offense is good.

Pro-bending is not really good to use in general as they can't use head shots, strikes from different angles, step over the line, unnecessary roughness, continuous streams of water, ice, etc.

This means using pro-bending feats for durability is a bad comparison, but the whole sport is based around speed, precision, and agility. Attacks being weak by design doesn't make them slow. Agility and combat speed feats from pro-bending are perfectly valid.

And all the pro-benders aside from the Fire Ferrets are fodder.

They're skilled fodder:

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This one is reacting to and knocking earth disks out of the air with his own shots at point blank range. Besides, attacks being from fodder does not in and of itself make them slower than attacks from named characters.

Zuko wasn't distracted by Aang in that fight, he was failing multiple times to get past Katara head on so he had to run past her to grab Aang. He barely grabs onto Aang's shirt when Katara blats him away and then finish him off in a flash freeze.

Getting blasted because he's trying to get to Aang rather than focusing on his fight is the definition of distracted.

He was also firebending inches away from Katara's face, without having the safety and distance of the pro-bending lines.

This is the exchange:

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It's at close range, but the speed isn't incredibly high or anything, and Katara still couldn't keep up to something as basic as a kick:

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This allowed Zuko to run right past her and get to Aang. It's not as good as Mako's pro-bending feats.

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The reason Zuko lost to Katara in their first fight was because he was exhausted, freezing, and out of his environment while she had been in a very spiritual place with the moon amp. Despite that, he did alright against her. A perfectly healthy Mako could probably handle a Book 1 Katara for a majority in this environment. Rounds 1-2 would be pretty close though. R1: Mako 6/10, R2: Katara 7-8/10 mid-high diff, R3: Katara 8-9/10 with relative ease as long as he doesn't electrocute her.

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@mialthefencer: -Mako just has faster choreography which isn’t a feat. Street level characters can have faster choreography than high tiers, it doesn’t at all mean they are faster.

-Mako also doesn’t use lightning on people unless he has to so that’s not a valid in character situation.

-Katara still kept up with Zuko in close quarters combat which is her weakness when battling so that’s still a feat for her, not an anti feat

-Ming Hua lost due to the environment.....not sure why you would ever bring it up as a feat when she roflstomped Mako a few episodes prior on neutral ground

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Attacks are not still attacks because they can only attack a certain way following rules which prohibit them from going all out. So a fire punch from a pro-bender isn't the same as someone trying to burn your face in like Zuko vs Katara. In Korra's first pro-bending game she easily knocks a guy out of the arena from the side.

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She is hit with a penalty. Pro-benders playing as probenders which is not the same in a real life situation.

You said she beat him because he was distracted by Aang, She had already bested him earlier in the fight. He realized he could not take her head on and went for a desperate attempt to grab Aang and escape.

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The speed is easily as high as the probending examples from Mako, and it's tougher since it's at close range and in an actual dangerous situation instead of just a sport. As she was blocking his upward firebending kick (not basic or at least more difficult than a pro-bending punch), he evades her next attack and then get's hit.

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For round 1: Have to go with Mako here. Katara was still inexperienced, and I don't see her countering/reacting to a lightning bolt at her face. Yeah, she fought Zuko, but I thought that was a bit of PIS for her part.

Round 2: Katara takes it with difficulty. She went toe to toe with Azula in the Caverns, which outshines Mako's feats from book 2.

Round 3: Katara Stomps.

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-Mako just has faster choreography which isn’t a feat. Street level characters can have faster choreography than high tiers, it doesn’t at all mean they are faster.

How else are we supposed to judge attack speed then? Mako has dodged more attacks in quick succession than Katara can put out and he's launched more attacks in quick succession than Katara can handle.

-Mako also doesn’t use lightning on people unless he has to so that’s not a valid in character situation.

In later books, sure. In Book 1:

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He used lightning on a random Equalist truck driver. Katara has no answer to this.

-Katara still kept up with Zuko in close quarters combat which is her weakness when battling so that’s still a feat for her, not an anti feat

It is a feat... but it's not nearly good enough to keep up with Mako.

-Ming Hua lost due to the environment.....not sure why you would ever bring it up as a feat when she roflstomped Mako a few episodes prior on neutral ground

I brought it up in reference to someone else claiming that Mako didn't improve over the course of the series. It has nothing to do with B1 Mako vs B1 Katara.

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Attacks are not still attacks because they can only attack a certain way following rules which prohibit them from going all out.

That doesn't mean that their attacks travel slower. Unless otherwise demonstrated, Mako's attacks in pro-bending are just as fast as his attacks anywhere else. Dodging them is a legit feat.

So a fire punch from a pro-bender isn't the same as someone trying to burn your face in like Zuko vs Katara.

Dodging a fire blast from pro-bender is exactly the same as dodging a fire blast from Zuko, provided those fireblasts are the same size, launched from the same distance, and traveling at the same speed.

In Korra's first pro-bending game she easily knocks a guy out of the arena from the side.

Presumably he wasn't expecting her to cheat.

She is hit with a penalty. Pro-benders playing as probenders which is not the same in a real life situation.

Do you think dodging a flurry of punches in a boxing match isn't relevant to a real fight? Because that's the real-world equivalent to your argument.

You said she beat him because he was distracted by Aang, She had already bested him earlier in the fight. He realized he could not take her head on and went for a desperate attempt to grab Aang and escape.

She didn't beat him, she tagged him when he didn't realize how much she'd improved. After he says "you've found a master, haven't you" she doesn't tag him again until he goes for Aang, which is when she actually beats him.

The speed is easily as high as the probending examples from Mako,

The speed at the beginning of the fight is faster, but Katara's not handling them individually the way Mako is, she's blocking multiple fireballs with one shield:

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She could do that (at night, which actually mattered in this fight) against Zuko, who was exhausted, freezing, and not a very powerful firebender yet, but she can't do that against Mako, whose individual fireballs are much more powerful:

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Furthermore, Mako is capable of even higher attack speeds:

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and it's tougher since it's at close range and in an actual dangerous situation instead of just a sport.

The part of the fight at close range is not nearly that fast:

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Close range is fair enough, but even fodder pro-benders can achieve similar feats, as I showed above with Bolin.

As she was blocking his upward firebending kick (not basic or at least more difficult than a pro-bending punch),

It's not like Mako can't use kicks.

he evades her next attack and then get's hit.

He gets hit when he grabs Aang. Katara was completely open at that moment:

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Anyhow, I'm curious as to what makes you think Katara can take Mako. The way I see it, he's faster (both in terms of attack speed and evasion), he's much more agile, he's more powerful where it counts (Katara can charge up and move large amounts of water, but he can just hit her while she's doing that; in terms of basic attacks/defenses he's ahead) and he has an easy one shot in the form of instant lightning.

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Attacks are not still attacks because they can only attack a certain way following rules which prohibit them from going all out.

That doesn't mean that their attacks travel slower. Unless otherwise demonstrated, Mako's attacks in pro-bending are just as fast as his attacks anywhere else. Dodging them is a legit feat.

Their attacks are formulated in a matter within the rules of pro-bending - not the same.

So a fire punch from a pro-bender isn't the same as someone trying to burn your face in like Zuko vs Katara.

Dodging a fire blast from pro-bender is exactly the same as dodging a fire blast from Zuko, provided those fireblasts are the same size, launched from the same distance, and traveling at the same speed.

No, because the pro-bender is fodder (even if you want to say skilled fodder) and can only strike with non lethal force and on certain ares of the body and directions of the ring. And in this case the distance we were comparing is not the same because of the lines in the arena.

In Korra's first pro-bending game she easily knocks a guy out of the arena from the side.

Presumably he wasn't expecting her to cheat.

Of course, but my point with that was using tactics not by probending rules would through them off. It's showing how unprepared they would be in a real situation.

She is hit with a penalty. Pro-benders playing as probenders which is not the same in a real life situation.

Do you think dodging a flurry of punches in a boxing match isn't relevant to a real fight? Because that's the real-world equivalent to your argument.

Yes, punching someone in a sport is not the same as fighting for your life. Boxing also has rules. If you started kicking someone in a boxing match you would be out. Do you think Mako is trying to kill or seriously injure his opponents or win a game?

You said she beat him because he was distracted by Aang, She had already bested him earlier in the fight. He realized he could not take her head on and went for a desperate attempt to grab Aang and escape.

She didn't beat him, she tagged him when he didn't realize how much she'd improved. After he says "you've found a master, haven't you" she doesn't tag him again until he goes for Aang, which is when she actually beats him.

She had the upper hand the majority fight. Him not realizing that she got better doesn't change the fact that he was losing.

The speed is easily as high as the probending examples from Mako,

The speed at the beginning of the fight is faster, but Katara's not handling them individually the way Mako is, she's blocking multiple fireballs with one shield:

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Again, Mako is doing that against a pro-bender. Not the same thing.

She could do that (at night, which actually mattered in this fight) against Zuko, who was exhausted, freezing, and not a very powerful firebender yet, but she can't do that against Mako, whose individual fireballs are much more powerful:

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Furthermore, Mako is capable of even higher attack speeds:

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and it's tougher since it's at close range and in an actual dangerous situation instead of just a sport.

The part of the fight at close range is not nearly that fast:

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Close range is fair enough, but even fodder pro-benders can achieve similar feats, as I showed above with Bolin.

The speed is comparable, and more difficult due to the range, circumstances and different uses of attacks, All of Mako's are in a straight line.

As she was blocking his upward firebending kick (not basic or at least more difficult than a pro-bending punch),

It's not like Mako can't use kicks.

Yes he can, and it's not like she can't block them.

he evades her next attack and then get's hit.

He gets hit when he grabs Aang. Katara was completely open at that moment:

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This goes back to the reasons of him not being able to get past her defense.

Anyhow, I'm curious as to what makes you think Katara can take Mako. The way I see it, he's faster (both in terms of attack speed and evasion), he's much more agile, he's more powerful where it counts (Katara can charge up and move large amounts of water, but he can just hit her while she's doing that; in terms of basic attacks/defenses he's ahead) and he has an easy one shot in the form of instant lightning.

Actually earlier in this thread I sided with Mako for the majority in round one. I was only disagreeing with your take on the situation of their duel and your use of pro-bending being the reason as to why he wins.

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@mialthefencer: He didn’t beat Ming Hua. First she ran out of water and then fixed this by finding a larger source. She was then completely surrounded by water and did not know Mako could generate lightning. She lost completely due to the location, and had already effortlessly stomped Mako before and was able to keep Mako and Bolin subdues.

OT: Katara wins all rounds. Round 1 is the closest but even with relatively limited water she defeated Zuko and only really lost due to a surprise attack she wasn’t fully prepared for.

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@emmafrostxmen said:

@mialthefencer: He didn’t beat Ming Hua. First she ran out of water and then fixed this by finding a larger source. She was then completely surrounded by water and did not know Mako could generate lightning. She lost completely due to the location, and had already effortlessly stomped Mako before and was able to keep Mako and Bolin subdues.

OT: Katara wins all rounds. Round 1 is the closest but even with relatively limited water she defeated Zuko and only really lost due to a surprise attack she wasn’t fully prepared for.

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Round 1: Mako without much issues

Round 2: Katara beats him without much troubles.

Round 3: Katara clowns him.

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Round 1: There is nothing that Katara can do to Book 1 Mako. The sole fricken point of Book 1 Katara was that she was a shitty waterbender that couldn't beat any named benders if her life depended on it. She didn't become good until the single last episodes and even then she wouldn't be good enough to contend with a bender of Mako's caliber.

Round 2: Mako should take it. Mako in Book 2 and Book 3 is way more skilled than Katara Book 2. She doesn't have anything on him here. Mako's power is too much for her.

Round 3: Katara in a good fight. Mako in Book 4 would match Book 3/EOS Zuko and Azula blow for blow though eventually go down (to Azula/Zuko). Katara is just better, however not by much honestly. Katara in a good fight.

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@byondeon: she was trained by the end of book 1 tho. How was mako more powerful than b2 Katara?, Did he do something I'm forgetting.

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@aystarr said:

@byondeon: she was trained by the end of book 1 tho. How was mako more powerful than b2 Katara?, Did he do something I'm forgetting.

Don't think he is more powerful. Never said that.

It's that he is a better firebender than anything she has fought book 2

And she didn't do anything that would make her be able to overpower him. He fought better benders than her Book 2, and won. This won't be any different.

EoS Katara however would win in a good fight.

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@byondeon:

And she didn't do anything that would make her be able to overpower him. He fought better benders than her Book 2, and won. This won't be any different.

Who?

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@aystarr said:

@byondeon:

And she didn't do anything that would make her be able to overpower him. He fought better benders than her Book 2, and won. This won't be any different.

Who?

Ming Hua (only one he need to beat to put him above Katara).

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@byondeon: but he won because of her exposure and outsmarting her, how does that apply to Katara?