Katakuri vs Marco the Phoenix

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#3  Edited By Marishtar

@eminel: Katakuri is still basically featless(yeah i know we have a bit now, but no real fighting feats).

So this fight makes currently exactly zero sense(it's like Jozu vs Smoothie simply pointless).

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Marrco by feats.

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Marco.

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Katakuri wins

Marco is a loser like the other whitebeard pirates

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Marco, that regen.

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@linsanel_doctor: what did you just say? Marco is strongest Yonko commander so far. Marco Ftw

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Marco ftw he is near admiral lvl katakuri seems 2 b only doffy lvl so da gap is noticeable

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@seastone98: Cracker can push Luffy to the limit who needed Nami to help him win but Katakuri is somehow weaker ? I think not. He's literally going to fight luffy In the next few chapters we'll gauge his abilities then

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@kgb725: my point exactly hell by feats (or lack dere of) katakuri is below doffy however weather u think he is above doffy or not aint da issue da issue is even if he is above doffy dat still dont put him on marco lvl plain & simple

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@kgb725: we'll have 2 just wait & see wont we.....

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Nice, Kata is getting new feats almost every chapter. Let's see how things will go until the end of the arc.

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Lol at katakuri being only Doffy level, this man would murder Doffy

Anyway I would give this battle to Marco in an extreme diff fight

He is the strongest commander of the former strongest pirate crew in the world and can fight against the admirals with no problem

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Marco...for now.

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Marco for now, could change after we see how Katakuri handles Gear 4th

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Probably Marco. After Luffy beats Katakuri, Marco is the level i would put him at.

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#22 juiceboks  Moderator

@cor_tsar: Luffy couldn't beat Cracker without Nami's help, what makes you think he's going to beat someone canonically superior?

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@cor_tsar: Luffy couldn't beat Cracker without Nami's help, what makes you think he's going to beat someone canonically superior?

Plot

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@juiceboks said:

@cor_tsar: Luffy couldn't beat Cracker without Nami's help, what makes you think he's going to beat someone canonically superior?

Plot

Yeah sure why not, it'll be plot when Luffy becomes King of the Pirates too... I mean you're not wrong. However it's beyond obvious that Luffy has been holding back a considerable amount(After all one of Rayleigh's things was conservation of energy)... We still, even with the ass kicking he's been getting, still haven't seen him go all out like he did against Lucci or Marine Fort... I think it's time for people start realizing that the PIS wasn't Luffy getting to this point, it's that he's even had any trouble getting here in the first place.

Luffy just smiled after getting his face beat in, he's always been a man in character to know his limits and just how far he can push/go beyond as he's retreated multiple times when he knew it was a losing battle.

Here I feel like he knows he can win, and anytime he's thought like that, it's happened.

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@cor_tsar said:
@twentygoodmen said:
@juiceboks said:

@cor_tsar: Luffy couldn't beat Cracker without Nami's help, what makes you think he's going to beat someone canonically superior?

Plot

Yeah sure why not, it'll be plot when Luffy becomes King of the Pirates too... I mean you're not wrong. However it's beyond obvious that Luffy has been holding back a considerable amount(After all one of Rayleigh's things was conservation of energy)... We still, even with the ass kicking he's been getting, still haven't seen him go all out like he did against Lucci or Marine Fort... I think it's time for people start realizing that the PIS wasn't Luffy getting to this point, it's that he's even had any trouble getting here in the first place.

Luffy just smiled after getting his face beat in, he's always been a man in character to know his limits and just how far he can push/go beyond as he's retreated multiple times when he knew it was a losing battle.

Here I feel like he knows he can win, and anytime he's thought like that, it's happened.

Lol we'll see, plot got him through his fight with Doflamingo

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@twentygoodmen: You could say that, but with the upcoming fight you might just say it was plot that kept Doflamingo around at all.

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@cor_tsar said:

@twentygoodmen: You could say that, but with the upcoming fight you might just say it was plot that kept Doflamingo around at all.

Right

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Marco for now, could change after we see how Katakuri handles Gear 4th

agreed though I think he will handle Bounce man just fine, I think Luffy is going to use another variant on G4 likely a speed form to compensate for Katakuri's CoO. He still has to figure out how to handle his body too given the fact that Haki/ fire doesn't seem to be working( from the Hawk Gatling).

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Marco for now, could change after we see how Katakuri handles Gear 4th

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Katakuri easily now. Marco honestly has very few feats, all he's done is kick Admirals really far without hurting them. It really stops being impressive when you realize Luffy did the same thing to Aokiji when they first met. Not to mention Marco let himself get punked by a Vice Admiral.

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Katakuri

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Last bump, the fight with Luffy is over, what everyone thinks now?

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@valorknight: Yeah. We can't work with his current feats here.

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Marco kept up intercepted and had an upper hand against the supposedly fastest character in one piece.

So there's strong arguments to say that Marco is faster than Kat or they are at least the same speed. All commanders are around the same level tho so noone is stomping.

Marco in a long slug. Marcos regen is op.

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#36 socajunkie  Moderator

No way of knowing until we see an on panel start to finish fight for Marco.

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Katakuri for now. Could easily change after seeing more feats from Marco.

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No way of knowing until we see an on panel start to finish fight for Marco.

^This.

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Katakuri

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Marco`s regen is useless against haki. Katakuri takes it.

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Dogtooth wins

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@iceheart_30: I'm not that sure about it: Marco isn't a logia type, his power is regeneration, not intangibility

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#43  Edited By IceHeart_30

@goldenguardian:

Garp took him down at his Phoenix form with casual haki punch

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#44  Edited By ALMIGHTY

Katakuri, he’s displayed a higher level of both observations and armament Haki than anyone else in the verse and was able too match the striking force of G4 Bounceman attacks, he should win mid - high difficulty seeing as he’s most likely in his prime where as Marco isn’t.

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Marco

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Marco. Katakuri seems stronger now but once Marco gets his showings you’ll see. Part 1 made characters appear weaker than Part 2 characters

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@kgb725 said:
@seastone98 said:

@kgb725: we'll have 2 just wait & see wont we.....

Ha!

Has marco made an appearance post TS if not den da jury is still out on dis 1