Karma Jigen vs Hybrid Kaido & Current Garou

Either Garou or Kaido solos stomp

kaido oneshots the fodder

Jigen one-shots.

Jigen>>>>naruto and sasuke>>>>>garou and OP verse

he oneshots the fodders

Garou neve these 2 fodders and their verses

Kaido negs the fodder

Jigen scales stronger than either

It’s not you combine 1+1 = 2 in AP team battles

Jigen can shrink Kaidou club and pierce him with chakra rods or pummel him in taijutsu

Garou scales weaker and is like continent to multi continent lv his attacks aren’t going to harm Isshiki unless he has Hax and Isshiki won’t sit around anywase he can summon Cube spam, shrink energy attacks, shrink himself beyond garou eyesight can see and attack Garou from behind

Or he can just BFR Garou

Adult Spsm / Adult Rinnegan are stronger than either Kaidou or Garou and Jigen stomped them even with their avatar forms and going all out

It seems clear to mean when they say ground they mean planet

Jigen negs Kaidou / Garou

You need Saitama to beat Jigen and verse

Kaido wank never, ever ceases to amaze me. It just keeps going and going.

Jigen solos both of these guys for now, and Kaido doesn’t stand a chance against either, Jigen just shrinks his weapon and kicks through his skull (his kick is far above moon splitter level by feats alone).

I seriously don’t understand where people place Kaido, you just see them coming in and stating he stomps, without any evidence of his AP at all.

Garou stomps

Garou wipes the floor with them maybe 7/10 times. any time he doesn't its because he gets BFR'd

Garou grabs Kaido by his hair, throws to team up with Jigen, proceeds to beat the hell out of the oversized statue. Jigen dies from the shockwaves of Garou's punches.

Jigen vs Garou will be interesting by the end of his fight with Saitama, Kaido is non factor.

Weaker Naruto chars stomp these two Fodders, Jigen is unnecessary

@rdcdesmond: If you want to use statements and data books then Kaido is Large Planetary scaling off Prime Whitebeard's multiple planetary statements and data books

Speed aside, he will still probably be Multi-Continental via scaling to Boros in his fight with Saitama. And we know Moon-level Naruto and Sasuke got trashed by this Jigen.

Idk about Garou but Jigen just transports Kaido to the bottom of the sea.

Base Jigen solo-stomp the island level fodders.

@etherealcrater: Juubi Obito has a similar statement doesn’t mean either are Planet lv

Juubito is countrylevel/+ at best

But hes not a part of this fight

Jigen can keep up with 2 small planetlevel beings,neither Kaido neither Garou are going to do shit here

Jigen stomps

Garou stomps the fodder , by now hes upove the fodder small islad and country lvl verses

Jigen murks both

No version of Naruto nor Sasuke is moon level. Plus Adults don't scale to EOS/TL. They are fodders.

Jigen soloes OP and OPM. Lol at planetary Kaido

With what feats?💀

Jigen gets killed by the shock waves of kaido and garou fighting.

MarPlay insists on saying he is MFTL and planteray when there no feats making them above street level.

muh scales above toneri headcanon

we need @mandabub to scare away these boruto wankers before the thread gets locked for a "Mismatch" when statements and feats are two different things.

Let be honest here, without the scaling of Naruto verse, what a best feat would we get from Boruto? Mountain lvl?

The feats of the verse looking pretty underwhelming, the characters powers doesn´t look really op.

What is Jigen doing with is fodder cubs? Giving Kaido and Garou a massage?

Or his fodder stabs who aren´t even scratch Kaido or Garou?

Let be honest, of all feats, Jigen life on the hypetrain due the previous naruto manga, his feats are pretty boring and kinda lackluster, without the scaling of Naruto Boruto rival would be Boku No hero, that is how bad the manga is.

Portrayal/Scaling:

Garou>Jigen>Kaido

Featwise:

Garou>Kaido>Jigen.

I agree with this, which is why I believe boruto verse is fodder

@deyyy: What I meant is he can be a lot faster than Isshiki, but doesn't have the AP to harm him.

I didn't state it as fact lmao. I said "probably".

Yes, they are at least equal to their teens. No amount of copium will change that.

Nah no amount of copium will change the fact that Boruto characters don't scales to EOS Naruto/TL ones. But you can easily debunk my statement by just posting a country level feat in Boruto. Just one and i will concede.

except they aren't equal

jigen was able to stomp them while amped by a fodder baby jyuubi

sasuke matched kinshiki physically, same kinshiki got incapped by shikamaru shadow

@deyyy: Arguing between DC and AP again? There's literally no reason for Naruto and Sasuke to be any weaker. I don't care about other characters, you can argue the scaling is inconsistent. They didn't lose any power after the war arc. Their performance looks poor is what causes people to assume they are weaker. Jigen is weaker than Isshiki, and he literally trashed Naruto and Sasuke in their strongest forms, which are six paths kurama mode and perfect susanoo. How one can say Boruto Naruto and Sasuke are Country level is beyond me.

@deyyy: They are not exactly the same. You said that since there's no country feat in Boruto, which is DC, Naruto and Sasuke are fodder, even though they scale to their teens in AP.

Those are what we call anti-feats which sometimes happen. That doesn't mean it disproves their previous feats and simple scaling. I can list several anti-feats in OPM and DB and nobody is gonna take them seriously. It is funny that people are seriously using this to attempt downplay.

Probably an anime-only scene. I only read the manga. But again, probably just another PIS scene, and people seem to keep using this to downplay.

lol. it's weird to see Naruto god tiers losing to HST characters but the Boruto fodders are just too weak.