Kaidou vs Vasto Lorde Ichigo and Ulquiorra

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#1 Edited by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

New chapter hype

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Round 1: In character

Round 2: bloodlusted

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#3 Edited by Undre (4770 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaidou gets one shotted by lanza ulqiora solos

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#5 Posted by KingGuinness (2017 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido one shots.

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#6 Posted by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingguinness: thanks for responding also did you read the new chapter?

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#7 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido stomps. The man wasn't even fazed by enraged Gear 4 pounding. He just laid there like it was nothing and took it. Then the mofo blitzed and one shotted Luffy?

Goddamn!

Inb4: cOuNtRy lEvEl lAnZa.

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#8 Posted by KingGuinness (2017 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:

@kingguinness: thanks for responding also did you read the new chapter?

I did. Hype chapter, and Kaido doesn't look like he's used 10% of his power.

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#9 Posted by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingguinness: he wasn't even in is hybrid form man this chapter was insane

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#10 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19111 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido probably has the best durability and is physically stronger, but in DC the Bleach team is superior, so it really depends if they can get through Kaido's defense. Kaido could arguably one shot them if he lands a direct strike. But if the bleach team stays to the skies and spams ceros, I'm not sure if there is much Kaido can actually do to counter until he gets new feats.

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#12 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio
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#13 Edited by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: So who wins Round 1 and 2 also Kaidou can fly with his Dragon form.

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#14 Edited by ovy7 (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido doesn't have enough feats IMO. We don't even know his durability limit. Yeah, he tanked hits from G4, but Zangetsu could do the same (people seems to forget that he no solded the Lanza exploding inside his palm).

So yeah, I think it's too soon to put Kaido in vs matches, but seeing the latest chapter, One Piece probably ended lol.

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#15 Edited by HitTheAssasin (8758 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Ulquiorra and Ichigo. From the looks of it, Kaido opts to tank things in-character and his durability feats currently aren't good enough to say he could tank a Lanza or multiple Cero's. So, Ulquiorra and Ichigo should take it.

Round 2: Kaido. From the looks of the last Chapter his combat speed is just as good if not outright better than the Bleach characters and he can oneshot them with a physical strike.

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#16 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19111 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: We can't really just assume what he is like with haki though. Kaido's dragon breath was less impressive than Ulquiorra's cero oscuras, and far less impressive than his lanza. I already agreed his durability outstrips theirs, and could probably one shot them with physicals, there is really not much more to say about it.

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#17 Posted by AlexTheBoss (19111 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji:

So who wins Round 1 and 2

In character Kaido has tried to commit suicide and just lets things hit him, so I wouldn't be surprised if he just keeps getting hit by cero spam until he dies, though he may be able to surprise them with his peed and one shot like he did to Luffy. For now I might give the majority to Ichigo and Ulquiorra, but idk for usre.

As for round 2, it depends what they do under bloodlusted conditions. If they all just charge in Kaido wins, but if they decide to fly up and spam ceros the team wins.

also Kaidou can fly with his Dragon form.

His dragon form doesn't have the feats to win. All he did was destroy a small portion of a mountain and get beat on by gear 3 Luffy.

However Kaido may have a half dragon form where he can fly. In that case he would probably just win all rounds, but we haven't seen that yet.

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#18 Posted by KingGuinness (2017 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7 said:

Kaido doesn't have enough feats IMO. We don't even know his durability limit. Yeah, he tanked hits from G4, but Zangetsu could do the same (people seems to forget that he no solded the Lanza exploding inside his palm).

So yeah, I think it's too soon to put Kaido in vs matches, but seeing the latest chapter, One Piece probably ended lol.

Lanza is an energy attack, whereas a barrage from G4 Luffy is all blunt force. G4 Luffy would cave Zangetsu's face in if he was to use the same combination of attacks he used against Kaido on Zangetsu.

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#19 Posted by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji:

So who wins Round 1 and 2

In character Kaido has tried to commit suicide and just lets things hit him, so I wouldn't be surprised if he just keeps getting hit by cero spam until he dies, though he may be able to surprise them with his peed and one shot like he did to Luffy. For now I might give the majority to Ichigo and Ulquiorra, but idk for usre.

As for round 2, it depends what they do under bloodlusted conditions. If they all just charge in Kaido wins, but if they decide to fly up and spam ceros the team wins.

also Kaidou can fly with his Dragon form.

His dragon form doesn't have the feats to win. All he did was destroy a small portion of a mountain and get beat on by gear 3 Luffy.

However Kaido may have a half dragon form where he can fly. In that case he would probably just win all rounds, but we haven't seen that yet.

Okay fair enough Kaidou has barely done anything so this is fair assessment.

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#20 Posted by SocaJunkie (9432 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks like Kid’s getting a new cellmate.

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#21 Posted by DeathHero61 (18876 posts) - - Show Bio

Jesus i still can't get over that chapter.

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#22 Edited by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@socajunkie said:

Looks like Kid’s getting a new cellmate.

Luffy "So what do you eat around here anyways?"

Kidd "MUGIWARA!!!"

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#23 Posted by ovy7 (3792 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7 said:

Kaido doesn't have enough feats IMO. We don't even know his durability limit. Yeah, he tanked hits from G4, but Zangetsu could do the same (people seems to forget that he no solded the Lanza exploding inside his palm).

So yeah, I think it's too soon to put Kaido in vs matches, but seeing the latest chapter, One Piece probably ended lol.

Lanza is an energy attack, whereas a barrage from G4 Luffy is all blunt force. G4 Luffy would cave Zangetsu's face in if he was to use the same combination of attacks he used against Kaido on Zangetsu.

Being an energy attack doesn't matter as the defense is based on reiatsu. If Zangetsu has enough reiatsu to no-sell and energy attack, then he can do the same to a blunt force attack as strong as the energy one.

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#24 Posted by BrownZeus (1062 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji: Thanks for the spoiler bro.

Was about to go in and say kaido needs more feats just to get shitfaced by that first pannel. Well gonna go get context now.

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#25 Posted by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@brownzeus: shit my bad bro, guess I was just too hyped

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#26 Posted by KingGuinness (2017 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7 said:
@kingguinness said:
@ovy7 said:

Kaido doesn't have enough feats IMO. We don't even know his durability limit. Yeah, he tanked hits from G4, but Zangetsu could do the same (people seems to forget that he no solded the Lanza exploding inside his palm).

So yeah, I think it's too soon to put Kaido in vs matches, but seeing the latest chapter, One Piece probably ended lol.

Lanza is an energy attack, whereas a barrage from G4 Luffy is all blunt force. G4 Luffy would cave Zangetsu's face in if he was to use the same combination of attacks he used against Kaido on Zangetsu.

Being an energy attack doesn't matter as the defense is based on reiatsu. If Zangetsu has enough reiatsu to no-sell and energy attack, then he can do the same to a blunt force attack as strong as the energy one.

Kaido doesn't have reiatsu and this battle doesn't take place in the Bleach-verse, so your argument is null.

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#27 Edited by Yray (864 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido wtf stomps only from the thought of him using Haki.. arguments can be made for gear 4 luffy beating ulqiora and kaido just low diffed gear 4 luffy while in base without using Haki except for maybe his club ... that's like only 10% his strength ...but to be fair if the team spams cero or lanza i don't think base kaido could handle that he would have to Haki up ... although kaido has no energy durability feats it's fair to say spamming lanza or cero won't be enough to take him down because it would mean someone like kizaru would defeat him by spamming like 30+ city block lvl nukes on kaido and it was stated that in a one on one fight kaido would win

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#28 Posted by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@yray said:

Kaido wtf stomps only from the thought of him using Haki.. arguments can be made for gear 4 luffy beating ulqiora and kaido just low diffed gear 4 luffy while in base without using Haki except for maybe his club ... that's like only 10% his strength ...but to be fair if the team spams Vero or lanza k don't think base kaido could handle that he would have to Haki up ... although kaido has no energy durability feats it's fair to say spamming lanza or cero won't be enough to take him down because it would mean someone like kizaru would defeat him by spamming like 30+ city block lvl nukes on kaido and it was stated that in a one on one fight kaido would win

Land,Sea or Air

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#29 Posted by Yray (864 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:
@yray said:

Kaido wtf stomps only from the thought of him using Haki.. arguments can be made for gear 4 luffy beating ulqiora and kaido just low diffed gear 4 luffy while in base without using Haki except for maybe his club ... that's like only 10% his strength ...but to be fair if the team spams Vero or lanza k don't think base kaido could handle that he would have to Haki up ... although kaido has no energy durability feats it's fair to say spamming lanza or cero won't be enough to take him down because it would mean someone like kizaru would defeat him by spamming like 30+ city block lvl nukes on kaido and it was stated that in a one on one fight kaido would win

Land,Sea or Air

Yeah I know right...and just to put in mind how insane this chapter was this was BASE Kaido ...we haven't seen his advanced Haki , hybrid form or awakening...and all his stats are above a BLOODLUSTED gear 4 luffy including the most unexpected SPEED !!..the dude straight up speedblitz a BLOODLUSTED gear 4 luffy

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#30 Posted by SkySanji (6094 posts) - - Show Bio

@yray: I know I was so hype I'm waiting on Kingoflightning's reaction

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#31 Posted by Yray (864 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:

@yray: I know I was so hype I'm waiting on Kingoflightning's reaction

Yeah that guy is funny as hell I watch is content alot and this reaction would probably be on YouTube 2 or 3 days from now

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#32 Posted by BrownZeus (1062 posts) - - Show Bio

At the moment the main issue is that we dont know Kaidos durability. It's not hard to argue that lanzas and ceros can do more damage than one of G4 luffy's attacks but Kaidos took G4 with no effort.

For the moment I think Kaidof can win but we need more feats than just last chapter. This thread is still to premature.

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#33 Posted by datruth1 (161 posts) - - Show Bio

With the little feat he has displayed it's safe to say a bloodlusted kaido stomps ... simply from the fact that a drunk base hakiless kaido can oneshotted a bloodlusted bound man coated with Haki

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@datruth1 said:

With the little feat he has displayed it's safe to say a bloodlusted kaido stomps ... simply from the fact that a drunk base hakiless kaido can oneshotted a bloodlusted bound man coated with Haki

the black electric thingy around kaidou's mace looks like haki though

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#35 Posted by Gilateen (4980 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido one-shots

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#36 Posted by FaradaySloth (11953 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido low mid diff

Lol at him one shotting

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#37 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8758 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido low mid diff

Lol at him one shotting

I don't think it's particularly laughable. He casually oneshot Haki cloaked Gear 4th Luffy, who has better physical feats than either Ulquiorra or this Ichigo.

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#38 Posted by universeichigo1 (1828 posts) - - Show Bio

What has gear 4 Luffy done again?

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#39 Posted by El_directo_ (1196 posts) - - Show Bio

Mehn, honestly i don't know what kaido gonna do if ulqui decides to spam lanzas or ichigo CERO's but kaido still takes this middif at worst.

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#40 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido wins both rounds.

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#41 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (4190 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I've seen, Kaido wins low diff.

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#42 Posted by insaneMonk (156 posts) - - Show Bio

What has gear 4 Luffy done again?

Gear 4 luffys basic attack is his punch named Kong gun ...this is a sample of a single Kong gun

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And hre we can see kaido tanking a plethora of that attack with no effort while at base and not defending and also sustaining no damage

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As for durability...gear 4 luffy can tank blunt force attacks of this lvl while HAVING A HOLE IN HIS STOMACH,SERIOUSLY BLEEDING OUT AND HEAVILY BEATEN

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And keep in mind that luffy tanked this without sustaining any noticeable damage ..and this was done without the help of his devil fruit

And here is kaido blitzing and oneshoting an enraged full healthy gear 4 luffy (gear 4 luffy moves at least at msh+ speed)

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#43 Posted by FaradaySloth (11953 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth said:

Kaido low mid diff

Lol at him one shotting

I don't think it's particularly laughable. He casually oneshot Haki cloaked Gear 4th Luffy, who has better physical feats than either Ulquiorra or this Ichigo.

I agree he has better physicals however I'd still think VL ichigo and Segunda Ulquiorra would beat Luffy in a good fight.

Also, Kaido doesn't have enough feats still, I'm sure I'll say he one-shots by the end of Wano.

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#44 Posted by Eobard21 (6422 posts) - - Show Bio

Kaido curbs both of them

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#48 Posted by deactivated-5be85ba9d64f1 (712 posts) - - Show Bio

Team if they play it smart and keep distance.....though vl ichi isn't exactly smart....

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#50 Edited by Jko1 (3532 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:

Anyways..... Any opinions from people who don't wank Bleach and make Bias threads

Seriously though I did my Research on this and there is no reality where Ulquiorra or Vasto lorde solos there is a reason why I made it 2 v 1,to make this fair in the first place

@faradaysloth@alextheboss@ecoblitz@worldofruin6@joviolma@deathhero61@flashingsabre@man_of_miracles@hittheassasin@caocao@drpepperman@jko1@thevivas

Please and Thank you

What I’m trying to figure out is how come people think that Ulquiorra or Vasto Lorde Ichigo vs Whitebeard is debatable but then think that a match like this isn’t debatble.