Kaido runs a Kizaru gauntlet

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Kaido fights Kizaru.

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If he wins he gets 5 minutes of rest and something to drink, then a new Kizaru jumps in.

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How many Kizarus in a row can he defeat before he dies?

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#2  Edited By MasterBuster666

Probably 4-5.

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It would take about 4 Kizarus at full power to take down Kaido, realistically speaking

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Kizaru has shown nothing so far in his arsenal to even harm Kaido, let alone deal lasting damage. When Kaido loses it’ll be because of exhaustion.

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Lightspeed kicks won’t hurt Kaido? Get outta here.

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Beats 1 extreme diff than lose to the second

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IMO

He mid diffs the first one

High diffs the second one

Extreme diffs the third one

And the fourth one barely kills him, but it could go either.

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@mortein: I could agree with this.

People need to remember that, aside from slashing attacks (which we know G5 Luffy is most vulnerable to), he barely harmed Luffy in their fight, and his main goal was to get away long enough to kill his real target (speed being his greatest asset).

What's Kaido's greatest strength? Endurance and durability. I think he could go through at least 2-3 Kizarus 1v1 before dying.

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He'd get tired against the first one if Kizaru decided to spam his clones.

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It would take about 4 Kizarus at full power to take down Kaido, realistically speaking

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@godlike_warrior said:

1) Beats 1 extreme diff than lose to the second

Agreed.

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Kizaru fought Sentomaru then both Base, and G4 Snakeman Luffy with Kizaru being in a winning position and then G5 with it ending in a draw and this is all ignoring the fact that Kizaru wasn't focusing on Luffy during the fight.

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@plaguedocter: damn dude you blind or something? none of those guys hits Kizaru, he got one shot by gear 5 luffy. He couldn't damage Gear 5 Luffy significantly, gear 5 puffy just ran out of breath. Not to mention Kizaru not focusing on luffs wasn't disadvantageous for him, Luffy literally got tagged due to protecting the target Kizaru was chasing after(and yet people keep bringing up the fact that Kizaru wasn't focusing on luffy as a handicap, goofiest handicap reasoning I've ever heard). Hybrid Kaido doesn't have this same stamina issue + plus he fought tons more before Gear 5 Luffy + any one of his advanced variants of thunder bag are probs equal to star gun. If Kizaru can't damage Luffy, he isn't damaging Kaido. And the fact Kaido can damage him, plus his speed and future sight means sooner or later Kizaru is getting tagged and one shot.... multiple times in a row. I'm thinking way more than 4. Kaido doesn't have a stamina issue. Luffy at his strongest does.

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@plaguedocter: damn dude you blind or something? none of those guys hits Kizaru, he got one shot by gear 5 luffy.

I've noticed that some of the same guys who are now claiming Kizaru was already warworn before he got TKOed, used to claim how casually and easily he was dealing with Luffy, how Kizaru was cruising unharmed through this fight while Luffy was all worn out.

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#19  Edited By DeusExMachlna
@socajunkie said:

Kizaru has shown nothing so far in his arsenal to even harm Kaido, let alone deal lasting damage. When Kaido loses it’ll be because of exhaustion.

This, people guessing 3-5 are just delulu, which still are far from what Kizaru can do, LOL.

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#21  Edited By MonkeysDkevin

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@godlike_warrior said:

1) Beats 1 extreme diff than lose to the second

Agreed.

Kizaru fought Sentomaru then both Base, and G4 Snakeman Luffy with Kizaru being in a winning position and then G5 with it ending in a draw and this is all ignoring the fact that Kizaru wasn't focusing on Luffy during the fight.

This is ignoring a lot of context such as:

  1. Kizaru forced Luffy to run around during the entire fight.
  2. Luffy is still mastering G5 and loves using it, as he proved early on with Bonney, talking about how freeing it is.
  3. Luffy repeatedly tanked Kizaru's attacks with no significant damage.
  4. Fight ends with Star-gun the named attack he used to stretch Kaido's head with a fist. Kaido tanked this attack just fine, Kizaru didn't.

Last and not least: Luffy didn't need Bajrang gun to beat Kizaru. It appears to be a draw cause Luffy looks exhausted, instead he's just winded from all the running around he had to do. He'll be back and at full strength for the big fight at Egghead Island, we all know it.

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any number in the Double digits is fine

Better stamina than luffy who just low diffed Kiz in a 2v1

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MORE THAN A DOZEN

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#34  Edited By MasterBuster666
@yray said:

MORE THAN A DOZEN

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I still say 3/4. In more recent chapters it's made pretty clear that G5 Luffy is slightly above Kizaru.

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#37  Edited By PlagueDocter

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Sorry for very late reply but the thread was bumped and I saw I hadn't responded...

1) Kizaru forced Luffy to run around during the entire fight.

No, or well not to the extent you seem to try to make it out to be.

Kizaru fought Base and then back to back G4 Snakeman uninterrupted to which ended off with G4 Snakeman Luffy getting kicked by Kizaru far away into the barrier then there was a lull as Kizaru did a couple of things. Mind you Kizaru verbatim says "It's clear you really are the man who took down Kaido" while fighting an Egghead G4 Snakeman Luffy yet despite that Kizaru shows no fatigue despite having just went against Sentomaru and Base Luffy that same day not too long ago meanwhile G4 Snakeman Luffy is visibly panting, sweating, etc but Kizaru is fine.

After that they go their separate ways for a bit until Luffy suddenly returns in G5 grabbing Kizaru from behind swinging him then chucking him away to the sea to which Kizaru sends his Light Clones to deal with G5 Luffy. Meanwhile Kizaru while the clones fight he goes back to where he was before he was thrown to find Vegapunk gone in which during that time Luffy deals with the Light Clones and when he does he sees Kizaru shoot a laser to which Luffy eats being burnt internally throughout screaming due to how hot it was. A little while goes by and when we come back to them we see both of them clashing and fighting each other with now both showing fatigue and this is when Kizaru "runs away" as Vegapunk is still out there and he needs to finish his job then while he does that Luffy chases which is the only time it happens in their fight (that distance is smaller than what he has shown before and he was already tired fighting Kizaru long before he ran to catch up).

(TLDR^: Luffy had to run once but he was already tired before that and the distance he ran was smaller than the distance he ran to get back to Onigashima... nothing says him running had much of any effect on him or his G5 limit as he was already reaching it earlier in the fight).

2) Luffy is still mastering G5 and loves using it, as he proved early on with Bonney, talking about how freeing it is.

Egghead fresh Luffy who has more experience with G5 > Onigashima tired dying Luffy who barely touched G5's capabilities.

Kizaru fought a fresher stronger Luffy than Kaido did.

3) Luffy repeatedly tanked Kizaru's attacks with no significant damage.

Got a little cut, got sent flying, we clearly see him roughed up a bit when we keep cutting back to them of which Luffy is panting, they are shown repeatedly to be clashing, etc. Kizaru also didn't take significant damage and got back up far earlier than Luffy did.

4) Fight ends with Star-gun the named attack he used to stretch Kaido's head with a fist. Kaido tanked this attack just fine, Kizaru didn't.

The attack Kaido received and the one Kizaru received are wildly different as White Star Gun is vastly superior (as I showcase in the below point).

Also different horses for different courses as in you just can't expect other top tiers to have the same innate physical resilience as the likes of a Kaido or a Big Mom... people like Shanks, Kizaru, Mihawk, etc don't have that level of innate durability like Kaido/Big Mom do but they can compensate via a strong defense, speed, hax, etc which would put them on that top tier level.

5) Last and not least: Luffy didn't need Bajrang gun to beat Kizaru. It appears to be a draw cause Luffy looks exhausted, instead he's just winded from all the running around he had to do. He'll be back and at full strength for the big fight at Egghead Island, we all know it.

Luffy needed to run once to catch up and he was tired fighting Kizaru even before that happened... which the distance was smaller than the distance he ran like I said...

Also White Star Gun as we can see is like top 2 strongest attacks done by Luffy so far only being contended by Bajrang Gun.

White Star Gun is a G5 awakened form, muscle form, highspeed, spinning, flaming, toon-force using, rubberizing, haki'd up, punch straight to the head... literally no other G5 attack compares except as I said Bajrang Gun.

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And despite all that... Kizaru didn't bleed, didn't break any bones, didn't say "ow," didn't have a bruise, didn't get knocked unconscious, all he got was dazed for a moment and then was back in the fight soon after, sooner than Luffy in fact and Luffy needed a pick-me-up (food) yet Kizaru still was the first to get up.

Kizaru needs to stop being downplayed...

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And Kizaru did so while environmentally and mentally inhibited so under normal circumstances he should be even stronger.

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#38  Edited By MonvieZ3

Until he gets tired but hypothetically atleast 50 or more kizaru due to Yonko's stamina that can last a week, looking at you, kuzan and akainu fight,

Pizzaru is such a fodder that people here need to wank him to high heels lmao,

No amount of Kizaru is going to touch nor tickle this kind of kaido,

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bare in mind that kaido was exhausted as he was fighting for all the alliance but still lifting island without a sweat while using his full power, Imagine how long a full health kaido will last without the accumulated damage from the alliance while lifting the island,

Interms of speed, kizaru gets stalemated by G4 luffy black mamba,

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While Kaido was able to rush at the same luffy,

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I could see Flame Kaido just rush to kizaru then obliterate his fodder ass without remorse,

Interms of Kizaru's AP, Luffy's organ alone was able to tank it,

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While luffy's skin can't even survive a heat from kaido,

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The heat alone is able to back out a yonko's hand, Kaido's durability isn't included with that said heat,

No amount of kizaru's attack is going to penetrate that kaido,

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Kizaru has not shown any offensive moves yet, most he did was evade Luffy and most attacks Luffy got on Kizaru were mostly due to him zoning out or him being in bad mental state.

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4-6 kizaru

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@monviez3: Luffy explicitly complained about both being hot