Kaguya vs Madara

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3 Eyed Madara with both Moon and Sun Seals vs Kaguya

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Juubito vs SA

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Full Intel for Both Sides

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Dimension Shift

Expansive Truth Seeking Ball

Mindset

Kaguya want all of Madara's chakra which means she has to Absorb all of it in order to win and Madara is Bloodlusted and wants Kaguya gone since she is a Threat to his plans.

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Madara.

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#3  Edited By MudaMudaMuda

Kaguya is not much of a fighter (Since no one really had what it takes to rival here is her lifetime), Madara is the better fighter and someone who has much more experience fighting people stronger than himself. So I think Madara could pull off a majority, unless this happens :

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@mudamudamuda: I made the conditions so that Kaguya can't just BFR him she has too absorb all of his Chakra to win plus I doubt it would work on Madara considering he has Reflexes comparable to Naruto who dodged it.

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@mudamudamuda: I made the conditions so that Kaguya can't just BFR him she has too absorb all of his Chakra to win plus I doubt it would work on Madara considering he has Reflexes comparable to Naruto who dodged it.

That means Kaguya can't go for the kill. Yeah Madara definitely takes the majority then.

Naruto only dodged because he knew it was coming after seeing what happened to Sasuke, Sasuke's reflexes are just as good as Naruto's (1st scan bottom left panel, Sasuke noticed that something was coming before Naruto did).

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#6  Edited By PhantomRant

Madara probably wins since he has a way to beat her and Kaguya's dimensional abiltiies are restricted. And he's also a far better fighter

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Kaguya would win. It took both the Sage and his brother to beat her. She has all of Madaras abilities plus the byakugan. I don't know where all this not much of a fighter stuff comes from seeing as she was wrecking on Naruto and Sasuke much harder than Madara was even when she wasn't putting them in other dimensions. She only got beat by sealing her, which Madara has no way to do, and she already proved she can just suck Madaras power right out of him.

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Kaguya wins. Although, Madara was a far better villain and character overall.

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honestly, I think madara would have a good chance of beating her but remember it did take the sage and his brother to beat their mother. And even the sage said before he gave naruto his powers that madara was almost on par with him this means that he wasn't even on the sage level yet and it took him plus his op brother to take kaguya down. kaguya has this 10/10 times

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#13  Edited By alextheboss

Kaguya, she is far stronger.

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#17  Edited By thelocust619

Madara doesn't have xp over someone who reshaped the world over a several month long battle with two people who together are stronger than he could ever be. He's fought for days iirc, but that's not even worth mentioning in comparison. Also, as much experience as he has fighting fodder...Kaguya has killed more than her share of that as well.

Is Madara technically a better fighter? Sure. Is that enough to make a difference against someone this strong? Not really. Naruto and Sasuke were beating his ass, so much that he resorted to fleeing in two halves to try and get a power up/instawin combo...yet they were as almost as outmatched against Kaguya as he was against them. In other words, Madara <Nardsauce<Kaguya, or Madara << Kaguya. Not happening.

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Madara is not winning this.

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Madara doesn't have xp over someone who reshaped the world over a several month long battle with two people who together are stronger than he could ever be. He's fought for days iirc, but that's not even worth mentioning in comparison. Also, as much experience as he has fighting fodder...Kaguya has killed more than her share of that as well.

Is Madara technically a better fighter? Sure. Is that enough to make a difference against someone this strong? Not really. Naruto and Sasuke were beating his ass, so much that he resorted to fleeing in two halves to try and get a power up/instawin combo...yet they were as almost as outmatched against Kaguya as he was against them. In other words, Madara <Nardsauce<Kaguya, or Madara << Kaguya. Not happening.

Pretty much.

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Feats: Madara

Hype: Kaguya

She is not that impressive

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@kratodamanto said:

Feats: Madara

Hype: Kaguya

She is not that impressive

No. More like; feats and hype: Kaguya. She is definitely that impressive.

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Kaguya stomps.

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Kaguya. Though Madara is the smarter fighter by far.

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Going with Madara

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Madara should win mid difficulty. Kaguya without Black Zetsu is pretty much a death brain, Madara has far more battle experience than Kaguya. Sage of Six and Hamura battling Kaguya for long time means nothing coz both doesn't have battle experience either nor does they know the means earlier. Hagoromo already said Hamura designed the seal, so they don't even knew the means to deal with her.

Madara with the seals is a bad news for Kaguya....the actual battle genius takes this

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Madara wins. He is tactically brilliant. Kaguya is an idiot and has no battle sense. She suffered from a lot of CIS in that fight.

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Kaguya wins. She might not be smart. But she way stronger then Madara. She has all of madara abilities.

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Kaguya fight against RS Naruto , RS Sasuke, depowered Juubito, Byakugo Sakura, EMS Kakashi

Only RS Sasuke and RS Naruto are easily cornered Madara back then.

Kaguya aint a warrior or fighter this is a chance for Madara but this is not good enough.

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Kaguya, Madara isn't fast enough to keep up. Sasuke was capable of blitzing Madara, but almost never touched Kaguya in their fight.

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kaguya fought a stronger group of enemies, and even then it had to be her worst possible matchup involved (naruto. and DMS obito). kaguya could have killed naruto and sasuke with ease or just dimension dumped them and called it a day but she wanted badly to absorb their powers. a morals off, trying to end the fight quickly, kaguya stomps

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That stacked OP though.

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madara, he has more versatile weaponry than her, and better feats.

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There's no need for headcanon sun and moon seals to defeat Kaguya:

1. Infinite Tsukuyomi, since she is not immune to it with a pair of Byakugan instead of Rinnegan

2. Truth Seeking Orbs, which nullifies all Ninjutsu, even Kaguya's Chakra Absorption

3. Any form of physical attacks eg Limbo

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#39  Edited By Token1300

This is the dumbest thing. Why even restrict Kaguya from using TSB when it’s her strongest attack lol Madara fan boys are worse than Broly fan boys in the 2009 - 2017 era.

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She opens a portal to his face and shoves an ash bone in it.

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Lol. Kaguya stomps.

Significantly superior in every way, stronger TSB, Better feats with IT, better Durability, Faster, and if we are taking Anime feats into account she is simply on a different level.

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Kaguya Dominates

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#43  Edited By Antonio_1996

Can't believe someone actually thinks Infinite Tsukuyomi is going to work against Kavita lmao. She's the freaken creator of that technique.

OT: Kaguya opens a portal and shoots an ashbone through it resulting in a stomp. These Madara fanboys are something else.

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Can't believe someone actually thinks Infinite Tsukuyomi is going to work against Kavita lmao. She's the freaken creator of that technique.

OT: Kaguya opens a portal and shoots an ashbone through it resulting in a stomp. These Madara fanboys are something else.

....Naruto and Sasuke were able to react to those All-killing Ashbone...Madara is several leagues above those two.

All he has to do is touch her, and Since he is more powerful than There sage of Six paths who beat Kaguya in the past I don't see how it would be a stomp.

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#45  Edited By katanalauncher

@katanalauncher said:

Kaguya stomps.

Also Madara doesn't use his sage powers more intelligently than Kaguya.

Sadly out of all the juubi/sage, Obito probably used the power most effectively, but he's also limited by his limited senjutsus and restricted kamui.

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Kaguya is such a shit villain but logically she should beat madara tho I think he could surprise her due to his vastly superior intelligence and skill

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Madara doesn't have xp over someone who reshaped the world over a several month long battle with two people who together are stronger than he could ever be. He's fought for days iirc, but that's not even worth mentioning in comparison. Also, as much experience as he has fighting fodder...Kaguya has killed more than her share of that as well.

Is Madara technically a better fighter? Sure. Is that enough to make a difference against someone this strong? Not really. Naruto and Sasuke were beating his ass, so much that he resorted to fleeing in two halves to try and get a power up/instawin combo...yet they were as almost as outmatched against Kaguya as he was against them. In other words, Madara <Nardsauce<Kaguya, or Madara << Kaguya. Not happening.

Even those Your post is Basically 3 years just want to let you know this, that Madara is in fact much more powerful than Hagoromo was when he fought Kaguya, Hamura has 0 feats, only the privilege of being Hagoromo's Brother. I can say without a Shadow of a Doubt that Madara would stomp Hagoromor and Hamura in a fight.

Naruto and Sasuke had 0 chance of beating Madara, their Trump card was Sealing him up.

Also, the fighting for days was EMS Madara, this Madara is leagues and leagues and leagues above that Madara.

Hagoromor needed his Brother to fight the Ten-Tails. 3 eyed Madara>>>>Ten Tails.

Lastly, Toneri Ultimate Attack was going to one shot the Earth, this is facts since he outright stated he was going to blow it up with one attack after he surpassed his chakra limits at the end of the movie. It pretty much stated that Final Madara>>Toneri Ultimate earth Busting Attack>Earth.

Kaguya is more powerful sure, But being more powerful didn't help her against Naruto and Sasuke did it? being more powerful didn't help her against Hagoromo and Hamura either. Nowhere does it state in the Naruto series that being more powerful 100% guarantee you Victory, Experience, and tactic, along with Power gives you the win. Madara has all 3 of them, while Kaguya only has just power no tactic, no experiences. Madara is in Kaguya's Tier of power, that doesn't mean they are equals, Clearly Kaguya is more powerful, but you don't need to be equals to be considered in the same tier of power.

Madara wins here, all he has to do is touch her and he wins. plus, he has Limbo, and he can summon Wood clones and Shadow Clones, and have his limbo do the same and overwhelm her.

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This is the dumbest thing. Why even restrict Kaguya from using TSB when it’s her strongest attack lol Madara fan boys are worse than Broly fan boys in the 2009 - 2017 era.

Because Kaguya can only do that after absorbing chakra from the Shinobi world. And it wouldn't make sense in this battle since Madara also have access to said chakra if it does exist.

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#49  Edited By katanalauncher

@revold:

1. Infinite Tsukuyomi, since she is not immune to it with a pair of Byakugan instead of Rinnegan

She literally has the most advanced rinnegan in the series.

Also she's the one that created IT, if anyone is getting caught in IT it's Madara.(Although neither will be caught)

2. Truth Seeking Orbs, which nullifies all Ninjutsu, even Kaguya's Chakra Absorption

Kaguya's TSB is far beyond Madara's TSB, pretty self explanatory.

Not to mention most of her jutsu can't be absorbed with tsb.

How do you absorb Amenominaka? Or her portals? Or her vacuum fist?

Any form of physical attacks eg Limbo

Kaguya is the strongest physical fighter in Naruto, other than maybe night guy for a split second.

She literally destroyed Sasuke's full susanno in a few punches.

Limbo is useless since Kaguya can clearly see the clones and take them out easily.

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#50  Edited By Revold

@antonio_1996 said:

Can't believe someone actually thinks Infinite Tsukuyomi is going to work against Kavita lmao. She's the freaken creator of that technique.

OT: Kaguya opens a portal and shoots an ashbone through it resulting in a stomp. These Madara fanboys are something else.

@revold:

1. Infinite Tsukuyomi, since she is not immune to it with a pair of Byakugan instead of Rinnegan

She literally has the most advanced rinnegan in the series.

Also she's the one that created IT, if anyone is getting caught in IT it's Madara.(Although neither will be caught)

Tobirama created Edo Tensei and I don't see him being immune to the effects of it. The only reason why Madara is immune is because all his eyes were Rinnegan.