Kaguya vs Krillin

Since Naruto vs Cell saga Krillin seemed to be debatable I wonder how Krillin would fare against the strongest character in the Narutoverse.

-Cell Saga Krillin.

-Kaguya as she was in the final battle with Team 7 (She has Black Zetsu).

-BFR does not count as victory.

If Krillin vs Naruto is debatable, Kaguya stomps.

Black Zetsu just reaffirms that, imo.

Well a lot of people don't even think Kaguya can beat Raditz so I think this could spark some good debate.

Krillin should still win by scaling.

Krillin wins by scaling.He should be at least small planet buster and is massively faster then anyone in the narutoverse.

Pretty much the same issues as the Naruto v Krillin thread: by power scaling krillin, by feats Kaguya. Problem is krillin's actual feats are terrible.

@vermillion0831 hahaha its kinda hard to shine when all your friends are aliens and gods and your just a human.

@godren: no kidding. The Z warriors are all useless. If you're not a saiyan, you might as well stay home and not go to the battle. Well, they do need someone to carry the senzu beans. Krillin is good for that at times.

Basically this.

close match, probably a tie

@valarmelkor: The majority is often wrong.

Feats Kaguya, scaling Krillin.

Dragon ball fans think the characters are stronger than the writers do. About 20 Frieza soldiers were eaten by a giant fish. Those soldiers were able to push Krillin for a second.

Dragon ball is just overall inconsistent with its power.

why do you think that giant fish was weak? DBZ giant fish >>>ten tails

The Bald One.

Kaguya stomps. Krillin simply doesn't have feats to compete in this league

Krillin

Double This. Power scaling would probably put Krillin above the Ginyu Force (excluding Ginyu himself), but damn is he lacking feats. Gotta feel bad for the guy who for all intents and purposes, is probably the strongest human on Earth (...wtf is Tien? Does "triclops-descendant-of-three-eyed-clan" count as human?).

@indomitableregal: I read somewhere an statement from Toriyama mentioning that Roshi was the strongest human on the planet when he was in his top form or something along those lines. Can't say for sure if i'm remembering right or not tho.

@caped_baldy: I heard something along those lines. Like if Roshi fought seriously and at his max, he might be the strongest. I never actually heard any interview or anything like that for myself though, so I can't say for sure.

Krillin only wins by faulty scaling that puts him above freeza.By actual powerscaling he's saiyan saga vegeta at best.

If Yamcha can beat anyone on the Ginyu Force Krillin past that arc would stomp this

Krillin (Cell Saga) > Saiyan Saga Vegeta > Kayaga (Naruto) =Nappa level

@saiyan77: Yamcha only proved he could beat the Ginyu force in filler.

@alextheboss: I know it was but that was one of the few cool Yamcha moment in DBZ but they should be that level of power

id give that kaguya might win. simply by dumping a fat kiss onto his cheek.

lets face it, we know krill krill and he won't hurt any girl who is willing to kiss him. face it. he went from crippling fear for Android 18 to turning her into a literal baby making machine.

and she looks like a damn bratz doll with that super massive head thing she has going on.

kaguya kisses krillin, he turns all red and blushy THEN android 18 comes and snaps her neck. nuff said.

@saiyan77: Not really. They have 0 feats on that level, and scaling only goes so far.

@ash_kechup_: Pay no attention to that user. it's an alt account of someone who keeps making alt accounts to create spite matches.

Does the Ginyu force even have the feats to say they can win? The best feat from any of them is Recoom's planet warping attack that was really only multi island level. The most impressive feat before Frieza blowing up Namek is Piccolo and Roshi blowing up the moon, and Kaguya should be beyond moon level. Tbh the weakest dragon ball character that has decisively better feats than Kaguya is Frieza.

@alextheboss: That multi island level attack would vaporize anyone in Naruto.

I really dislike that scaling BS.

the one thing that gets me. In movie F piccolo was struggeling against people at prime deodoria and zarbon level

Evidence?

I'm not saying it wouldn't, but you have to prove it can.

@omega_kai: It wouldn't kill The Eight and Nine tails. It wouldn't even scratch the Jubi.

Cut it out.

@alextheboss: Really? C'mon you know and I know that Recoome's Eraser Cannon would definitely kill Kayuga unless she has planet+ durability, when Goku in the Ressurection of F movie used a Kamehameha to kill Frezza it was barely plateau level in DC. Aren't you one of the people if I'm not mistaken that say "DC isn't everything."

Here is a comparison of Recoome's eraser gun and the 10 tail's beast bomb. The attacks are comparable, Recoom's looks a little stronger to me but Kaguya is much stronger than the 10 tails and Yamcha might not even be stronger than Recoome.

why wouldn't it?

Yes DC isn't everything, but no character until Frieza proved they are planet level. Imo Frieza in his first form is the first person who can bust an average sized planet. Also Kaguya is arguably planet level.

If your saying DC isn't everything then why're you contradicting yourself by comparing DC? Also if we use empirical evidence, Vegeta is planet level in Saiyan Saga, since he destroyed a planet before he came to Earth, on top of threatening to destroy the earth as well. As well as Piccolo, who was far weaker than Vegeta at the time, casually destroying a moon. Furthermore, I don't how Kayuga arguing being planet level helps anything, it's not like it grants the durability with it.

@omega_kai: just to point out, Vegeta destroying that planet is non-canon since it's anime filler.

@blackestnight93: I know I'm using it as empirical evidence and even though it's filler... idc tbh people automatically write anything as non canon when it's not in the manga and it's annoying. I also remember looking at interview from Toriyama and he said something along the lines of the anime being in the same universe with the manga.

Edit: The interview could have been fake I'm might go look for it on Kanzenshuu.

@omega_kai: well, the manga is the original source material, plus, a lot of anime tend to change or exaggerate some things from the manga in order to make things more exciting. An example of this is One Piece. Generally, the canon material in the dragon ball anime seems to be in line with the manga from my personal experience with it.

@blackestnight93: When I was talking about filler it was about for Dragon ball, not anime in general, my bad should've been more specific. I consinder filler from any other anime non-canon, that may seem like me being bias lol but I assure you it's not.

@omega_kai: fair enough.