Kaguya vs Ichigo
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@b_r023: @thepurifier: @skysanji: You stop
@ourmanuel: off topic but can you give a vote to either of us ? :)
No one can really evaluate Ichigo's powers honestly as his powers was turned of and shut down by Yhwach, we never really got to see what he could truly do as Kubo wanted to end the manga and get it over with.
Until then, Kaguya completely wrecks.
@shaurya1230: I’ll try to but I’m busy currently.
In a few hours I could
@ourmanuel: sure , thanks :)
@worldofruin6: not soloing the verse but she does beat Ichigo.
@worldofruin6: The notion of Kaguya soloing the Bleach verse is just simply laughable.
@joviolma said:
Kaguya > Sasuke and Naruto >>> Ichigo
@worldofruin6: Kaguya can’t solo the verse
@joviolma: Goku solo's HST
@ourmanuel: they would easily if Bleach writing didn't have a bunch of "we got this super obscure OP power" and the other guy going "oh, i just so happen to be perfect to fight against that because of this reason".
Kaguya stomps with little effort
@worldofruin6: Kaguya can’t solo the verse
Kaguya beats any bleach character. The only character that could even be argued to have a chance against Kaguya is Yhwach.
And Lille in vollstandig
And Gerard
And non pis Gremmy
@ourmanuel@worldofruin6: Honestly Ichibe could beat her aswell, she's pretty stupid and no doubt she'd get hit by his Shikai/Bankai
@ourmanuel: How would she lose to Gerard when she can just BFR him? Or erase him with TSB?
How is she going to lose to Lille with Genjutsu, BFR, and regen?
And Gremmy being dumb isn't PIS it's literally his character.
Gerard literally converts damage to power. He regenerated from energy in the air even after being hit by toushirous hax that negates other hax. Then there’s the fact that erasing him would also destroy his sword, and in turn kaguya too.
Her IT didn’t work on the undead and lille’s trompete ability would erase her.
This isn’t the place for this anyways, you could create a thread like that.
@man_of_miracles: Gremmy being dumb is entirely PIS
The Quinces can dimension hop easily... So goodluck with BFR
Are you suggesting her regen is infinite? NLF
@limitlesssigil: 1) A character being dumb is not always PIS man. If a character is typically smart but does something dumb in order to advance the plot that is PIS.
A character actually being dumb as part of their character is not PIS.
It's an important distinction.
2) Oh they can? Than it should be no problem to show me Gerard dimension hopping without prep in a reasonable time frame.
3) When did I say anything about her regen being infinite? You literally just made that up.
The fact is that she has significant regen and just being hit by Lille doesn't guarantee she will be put down.
I notice you didn't offer any counter to Gengutsu or TSB.
There are characters in Bleach that could be Kaguya but it isn't any of the ones you mentioned.
The list would most realistically be:
Yhwach
Ichibei
Aizen
@ourmanuel: 1) Again with this. TSB is more that he ever regenerated from. Not to mention he regenerated from reishi within the soul society. There wouldn't be any on a neutral battfield.
2) Are you actually going to sit here and argue that Bleach characters are undead in the same way in Edo is undead and so they are immune to gengutsu? Gtfo with that argument dude. Why don't you just say "soul crush gg hue hue". Low effort bait. Not to mention it completely ignores universe equalization.
Yeah she is just going to sit there and get hit by full power trompete.
3) You are the one who brought it up so I don't know why you are trying to put it on me.
@man_of_miracles: tsb has no feats of nullifying hax or totally disintegrating anyone. Even if it did, Gerard was flash frozen had his powers nullified and his body scattered apart to snow dust yet he still regenEd. Tsb doesn’t mean much in this context at all. Verse equalization is also the reason why shinigamis can still fly and be seen by chars on other verses. So saying there’s no reishi is just wrong. There’s still the fact that it would damage her too via reflection.
2) actually no, the undead in bleach are even better than those from naruto seeing as they even had bodies. It’s not my fault that the jutsu literally can’t work on dead/undead people, it’s a law even in the narutoverse. It would be like me saying urahara would put those reiatsu cuffs on a naruto char in a battle when it literally only works on shinigamis. And kaguya would have no choice but to get hit by lille’s attacks. He also has the ability to stop movement and even if he didn’t, kaguya wouldn’t know to dodge the x-axis from his wings since it fires nothing and is just wings. Plus her intellect is limited anyways.
@ourmanuel: 1) The soul society is literally made of reishi which has been explained numerous times. A neutral battlefield would not be made of reishi just like there wouldn't be extra chakra just laying around. Not difficult to understand.
He isn't going to reflect it if it erases him which is what a TSB does. And she still has Genjutsu for an easy win anyway assuming that her normal attacks don't work.
2) You trying to argue that Genjutsu wouldn't effect the "undead" from Bleach because it didn't effect Edo is probably one of the dumbest arguments I've ever seen on here and a massive, desperate asspull.
The "undead" from Bleach have literally nothing in common with Edo summons from Naruto other than the title of being "undead". That would be like saying a fodder vampire from any universe would be immune to Genjutsu because they are "undead". It's a bad argument and you know it.
When she sees what Lille can do she won't just sit there. This is also assuming she ever let's him make it to Volstandig.
@thepurifier: it is, so I think I’ll take my leave now to avoid derailing this mismatch
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@worldofruin6: but that not soloing the verse though, soloing the verse means you 1vAll
@joviolma: Omaeda stomps Hades zero diff
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