Kaguya and the Juubi vs. Yhwach and Mimihagi

Callouts:

Kaguya via better feats and scaling.

Couldn’t Kaguya make people insides explode and knock people out with a single glare? LOL

@claymore_fools: That was against regular humans. Although, it was also before she consumed the Shinju fruit, so she can likely do that even more casually and against stronger opponents.

@gear4god: Yeah, the way I see it is that it’s basically bootleg edition Vegeta’s telekinesis LOL. She still hasn’t been shown doing it with the shinju though and I don’t think she’ll be able to pull it off unless she absorbs the fruit

Still doesn’t get around almighty.

The Almighty is really, really broken and pretty much impossible to bypass. And Yhwach does have a lot of other hax, he's not a one trick pony like some people seem to believe, so despite not being able to inflict permanenent damage on Kaguya physically, he has other means of dealing with her.

Kirchenlied Sankt Zwinger(IIRC that's the name)can steal powers and Blut Vene Anhaben can steal bodies, both of which Kaguya has shown no resistance to.

So yeah, it's either a stalemate or Yhwach wins.

In b4 flame war.

They just cant beat the almighty, Yhwach wins with Sankt Altar.

Kaguya

Agree with the others, The Almighty is too hax. There's also the fact that Mimihagi is way faster than Kaguya and the Juubi, crossing the distance between the Seireitei and Royal Palace in seconds, while it took True Shikai Ichigo 9 hours and a half to do the same thing. Or Yhwach's feat of lifting The Wandenreich from Seireitei to the Palace in a similar amount of time as Mimihagi's feat.

Edit: Also, Kaguya isn't the only one who can explode people:

No point saying who wins, every Yhwach thread ends the same. Though that can’t be helped with his insane hax

The Almighty is not at all a factor in this match, because the only futures that it sees is Yhwach being blown the fuck up by the Juubi each time.

Results are a little surprising.

Team Naruto.

@faradaysloth: How so? Because people usually side with Naruto?

Nah I thought that this was a 50/50 debate topic.

Maybe the Almighty works with what Ywach knows, such as probably Shinigami and Quincy stuff to a degree for him to warp the future rather than everything.

@azureus: how

Almighty GG

Infinite Tsukuyomi GG not even the almighty can stop it

Kaguya on her own wins, now she has a second jyuubi she's allowed to fuse with? Lol bring up any other YvK thread for an orgy of evidence as to why Kaguya stomps.

Literally any genjutsu seals the deal for Ywhach, literally any attack one shots him. Ywhach can try stealing powers, Kaguya will just use them anyway cuz Sankt Altar's only feat is failing. A stalemate is impossible with Ywhach because if he can't win Almighty's fail rate (Ywhach acknowledges on panel he can simply fail due to luck) ensures he'll inevitably lose and it never once allowed him to do something he can't already do.

Mimihagi gets blown up.

Kaguya via better feats. Infinite Tsukuyomi ends this fool.Alas, Kaguya has a new white zetsu.

Bump

Nobody ever gives a reason a solid reason why any naruto character can bypass the almighty? Genjutsu is useless to someone you can choose a future and manipulate it to where that never happened. Superior DC, Superior strength, speed, and better hax

Don't know anything about this Bleach character. Can he survive Kaguya's Ash Bones?

Because Yhwach gets stomped in this match up literally all the time. The Almighty cannot switch to a future where he wins because he dies in all of them.

Kaguya is tears above and wins

Yhwach by better showings. Also why is Mimihagi here other then to be absorbed by Yhwach?

@thelocust619: Just to make it clear Yhwach's power steal did work and he had that power he just could not control it. Ichimonji's power is impossible to steal since the power itself is tied to the one with the name "Ichibei Hyosube". Kaguya does not have the same set of abilities as Ichibei to defend herself from her powers being taken away from her.

@azureus: explain how jubi hits someone with omni pre cog. yhwach hits him in the future with yamas bankai or steals it's power

@artoriasabysswalker: yhwach has the ability to see and change every future. ash bones has no hope of hitting him so it doesn't matter

Explain how the Juubi wouldn't. That thing has country sized blasts.

The Almighty is only limited to changing to possible futures. He's not dodging Ashbones. He dies in every future Kaguya shoots him with it.

@azureus: I just gave you two ways he avoids it a third assuming jubbi is even able to fire an attack is just avoiding it as he will know the attack before it's used.

@azureus: Where did you get that from? Yhwach can change realities where he has been killed. Unless he willingly turn off Allmigthy he has no need to even bother,

@azureus: what? ashbone needs to hit him. his omni precog makes that not happen. the he dies in every future argument is weak at best

@azureus: The jubbi is not country level not even close

Yhwach overwhelms her.

Except that one is a complete non factor and the other is completely out of character. He gets blown up.

I got that from Yhwach's own words. He fully explain his ability in his fight with Ichigo. Second, not sure if you say my argument...but Yhwach cannot rewrite a future where he has died, if he dies in every single future because there's not a future where he is alive to switch to.

@jatom22:

what? ashbone needs to hit him.

Those things are far too fast for him to even react to. It will hit him.

his omni precog makes that not happen.

...By switching to a future to where he was not hit...problem is he cannot even react to them. So he'll literally be hit everytime. There's not outcome where he comes out on top.

the he dies in every future argument is weak at best

Weak in what sense? The Almighty is only the ability to see and change all possible futures to begin with. If he's ridiculously outclassed, there's not outcome where he wins. Therefore, he cannot rely on the Almighty to bail him out. He gets blown the fuck up everytime.

@azureus: I didn't see anything saying in character and why would it be out of character he didn't use because he didn't need to. Also how is power stealing a non factor

@azureus: do you not know what precog is the ash bone will not hit him. He will know where they are coming from and going before kaguya even uses them. even if by some instance he does get hit they don't kill fast enough for him to just rewrite the future so he lives. He was sliced in half by ichigo and was still able to live. Also idk what switching to a future means he doesn't switch to a future he changes them and could attack from them.

your only argument so far is he dies or he gets blown up in every future. I've given you multiple ways he wins

The Jūbi not being country level is just a weird claim.

"The Almighty Can Beat Anything"

Bleach high ballers sure do love NLF. Kaguya is too powerful for Ywach's abilities to have any discernible effect on the outcome of the battle. As many people have stated. He just sees all the different ways Kaguya kills him.

A casual Juubi Bijuu Dama is better than any Aoe attack in bleach.

@gear4god Is the bottom right guy in the Yhwach picture also included in the fight?

@saint_of_origin: what's a specific way she wins