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Post Edited:2007-09-01 16:36:38
justice league vs avengers
Witch Kitten says:
"Flash is so stupid, but JLA would win if zatanna is on it."
He may be but it doesn't change the fact that nobody can stop him.
Plus Wanda smokes Zatanna right off the bat.
Post Edited:2007-09-01 20:16:45
Rated R Superstar says:
"JLA. No one on thee Avengers can stop the Flash."
what about the hulk or dc strange
The Mighty Thor says:
"Rated R Superstar says:"JLA. No one on thee Avengers can stop the Flash."what about the hulk or dc strange"
The Mighty Thor says:
"The Mighty Thor says:"Rated R Superstar says:"JLA. No one on thee Avengers can stop the Flash."what about the hulk or dc strange""
What about em? Doc Strange wouldn't even know where Flash was before he put his hand threw his chest and I believe he could still Hulks speed leaving him standing there like a shell.
I don't know WTF is going in this thread other than if JLA didn't have that bastard Flash the Avengers would win. Anyway, JLA wins.
Are we going with people that are only on the teams in the pics or now or all off them? If so the Avengers best chance is guys like Thor and Sentry trying to stall long enough for Scarlet Which or Dr. Strange to do a killer finishing move. Without that guys like Flash are going to take the Avengers out too fast.
The Mighty Thor says:
"you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"
Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over.
nO, with strange's powers he doesn't really have to think, he can cast a spell that goes all the way around, it would get everybody.
Rated R Superstar says:
"The Mighty Thor says:"you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over."
what about sentry then he is fast and i'm pretty sure quicksilver can hold him off long enough for strange to do something
The Mighty Thor says:
"Rated R Superstar says:Sentry is fast enough. Quicksilver isn't. Sentry is the only one that can match with Flash's speed thats on the avengers besides someone like Cap Mar-Vell or Quasar. But I don't think besides Sentry they can think as fast as flash."The Mighty Thor says:what about sentry then he is fast and i'm pretty sure quicksilver can hold him off long enough for strange to do something""you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over."
The Mighty Thor says:
"Rated R Superstar says:"The Mighty Thor says:"you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over."what about sentry then he is fast and i'm pretty sure quicksilver can hold him off long enough for strange to do something"
So what your saying is the Marvel U has to put two of its big guns on the Flash at the same time? So who's taking on Martian Manhunter and Superman and Green Lantern? If you take all the Avengers with speed and put them on the flash, then who's stopping Superman who is almost as fast? The Avengers are going down plain and simple.
Captain Mar-Vell says:
"The Mighty Thor says:"Rated R Superstar says:Sentry is fast enough. Quicksilver isn't. Sentry is the only one that can match with Flash's speed thats on the avengers besides someone like Cap Mar-Vell or Quasar. But I don't think besides Sentry they can think as fast as flash. ""The Mighty Thor says:what about sentry then he is fast and i'm pretty sure quicksilver can hold him off long enough for strange to do something""you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over."
thats why i said hold him off
Rated R Superstar says:
"The Mighty Thor says:"Rated R Superstar says:So what your saying is the Marvel U has to put two of its big guns on the Flash at the same time? So who's taking on Martian Manhunter and Superman and Green Lantern? If you take all the Avengers with speed and put them on the flash, then who's stopping Superman who is almost as fast? The Avengers are going down plain and simple.""The Mighty Thor says:what about sentry then he is fast and i'm pretty sure quicksilver can hold him off long enough for strange to do something""you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over."
thor can take on superman while vision is on martian manhunter and green lantern maybe thunderstrike
Witch Kitten says:
"No they're not, you're going down plain and simple. take that Gambler."
Hahahaaaaaaa, thanks for the chuckle.
Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?
Eternal Chaos says:
"Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"
yea thor can do that
okay mister chaos, you said wanda would dust zatanna off. what does cleaning have to do with this,Duh!
The Mighty Thor says:
"Rated R Superstar says:Thor could handle Superman, Martain Manunter is going to rip through Vision like nothing. I see Matain as the biggest problem next to Flash. I mean Flash they have to worry about him taking them out one at a time quickly. I see Martain taking them all out with one mental strike. The only people on Avengers with Mental powers to resist it would be Sentry and Dr. Strange."The Mighty Thor says:thor can take on superman while vision is on martian manhunter and green lantern maybe thunderstrike""Rated R Superstar says:So what your saying is the Marvel U has to put two of its big guns on the Flash at the same time? So who's taking on Martian Manhunter and Superman and Green Lantern? If you take all the Avengers with speed and put them on the flash, then who's stopping Superman who is almost as fast? The Avengers are going down plain and simple.""The Mighty Thor says:what about sentry then he is fast and i'm pretty sure quicksilver can hold him off long enough for strange to do something""you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over."
Eternal Chaos says:
"Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Depends on the Flash. If its Wally he can steal the speed of others to increase his own. So he could acutally steal Thor's and the hammer's speed and make him faster.
Captain Mar-Vell says:
"The Mighty Thor says:"Rated R Superstar says:Thor could handle Superman, Martain Manunter is going to rip through Vision like nothing. I see Matain as the biggest problem next to Flash. I mean Flash they have to worry about him taking them out one at a time quickly. I see Martain taking them all out with one mental strike. The only people on Avengers with Mental powers to resist it would be Sentry and Dr. Strange. ""The Mighty Thor says:thor can take on superman while vision is on martian manhunter and green lantern maybe thunderstrike""Rated R Superstar says:So what your saying is the Marvel U has to put two of its big guns on the Flash at the same time? So who's taking on Martian Manhunter and Superman and Green Lantern? If you take all the Avengers with speed and put them on the flash, then who's stopping Superman who is almost as fast? The Avengers are going down plain and simple.""The Mighty Thor says:what about sentry then he is fast and i'm pretty sure quicksilver can hold him off long enough for strange to do something""you seriously think doctor strange can't sense flash or make a spell to freeze him"Thats exactly what I'm saying. Flash can move faster then Strange can think. Game over."
i'm pretty sure dc strange can make a spell to block martian from entering there heads like in infinty gauntlet he made a spell for them to breath in space
Witch Kitten says:
"okay mister chaos, you said wanda would dust zatanna off. what does cleaning have to do with this,Duh!"
In other words, she kills her quickly.
Captain Mar-Vell says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Depends on the Flash. If its Wally he can steal the speed of others to increase his own. So he could acutally steal Thor's and the hammer's speed and make him faster. "
Flash isn't allowed to move faster than light. That's the DC "safeguard". Their mainstream characters can't move faster than light. Flash is mainstream so no matter how much speed he absorbes, he can't move faster than light.
Eternal Chaos says:
"Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"
Thor is just as fast as Superman? I never heard that but I'll take your word on it. Say he is then what? Superman has a weakness to magic, that doesn't mean he takes a shot from the hammer and goes down for the count. You guys keep making match ups that favor Marvel but who said they just pair up and go at it? Who says Thor doesn't go after Flash first and Martain Manunter cripples him with a telepathic attack? Who says Wanda and Zatanna match up? You see what I'm getting at, it wouldn't be all organized it would be chaos and the team with the most speed would win.
Rated R Superstar says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Thor is just as fast as Superman? I never heard that but I'll take your word on it. Say he is then what? Superman has a weakness to magic, that doesn't mean he takes a shot from the hammer and goes down for the count. You guys keep making match ups that favor Marvel but who said they just pair up and go at it? Who says Thor doesn't go after Flash first and Martain Manunter cripples him with a telepathic attack? Who says Wanda and Zatanna match up? You see what I'm getting at, it wouldn't be all organized it would be chaos and the team with the most speed would win."
true but both team has alot of speed like thor hammer is really fast and so is flash and sentry and superman also marvel has alot of brute strenght to like the hulk
Rated R Superstar says:
"Eternal Chaos says:That is a very fair statement. As I said. Avengers's only chance is trying to stall for Dr. Strange or Scarlet Witch. If they can't they lose."Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Thor is just as fast as Superman? I never heard that but I'll take your word on it. Say he is then what? Superman has a weakness to magic, that doesn't mean he takes a shot from the hammer and goes down for the count. You guys keep making match ups that favor Marvel but who said they just pair up and go at it? Who says Thor doesn't go after Flash first and Martain Manunter cripples him with a telepathic attack? Who says Wanda and Zatanna match up? You see what I'm getting at, it wouldn't be all organized it would be chaos and the team with the most speed would win."
Rated R Superstar says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Thor is just as fast as Superman? I never heard that but I'll take your word on it. Say he is then what? Superman has a weakness to magic, that doesn't mean he takes a shot from the hammer and goes down for the count. You guys keep making match ups that favor Marvel but who said they just pair up and go at it? Who says Thor doesn't go after Flash first and Martain Manunter cripples him with a telepathic attack? Who says Wanda and Zatanna match up? You see what I'm getting at, it wouldn't be all organized it would be chaos and the team with the most speed would win."
I see your point. But now who says any of the characters are going to go strait for the kill. Strange might not be viewed as a threat by anybody same goes for Wanda and Zatanna
Eternal Chaos says:
"Captain Mar-Vell says:Flash has moved faster than light in the past. Where do you find this safeguard?"Eternal Chaos says:Flash isn't allowed to move faster than light. That's the DC "safeguard". Their mainstream characters can't move faster than light. Flash is mainstream so no matter how much speed he absorbes, he can't move faster than light.""Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Depends on the Flash. If its Wally he can steal the speed of others to increase his own. So he could acutally steal Thor's and the hammer's speed and make him faster. "
Eternal Chaos says:
"Rated R Superstar says:"Eternal Chaos says:"Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Thor is just as fast as Superman? I never heard that but I'll take your word on it. Say he is then what? Superman has a weakness to magic, that doesn't mean he takes a shot from the hammer and goes down for the count. You guys keep making match ups that favor Marvel but who said they just pair up and go at it? Who says Thor doesn't go after Flash first and Martain Manunter cripples him with a telepathic attack? Who says Wanda and Zatanna match up? You see what I'm getting at, it wouldn't be all organized it would be chaos and the team with the most speed would win."I see your point. But now who says any of the characters are going to go strait for the kill. Strange might not be viewed as a threat by anybody same goes for Wanda and Zatanna"
Thats a great point and it kinda shows mine. the speedsters (on both sides) wouldn't have to worry about who was who, large groups of people would be getting taken out left and right before they could blink. Now maybe they miss Wanda long enough for my girl to clear the board or maybe they miss Zatanna and so she clears the board.
The Mighty Thor says:
"this fight is just like dc vs marvel "Thats cause almost everyone in Marvel has been on the Avengers once and same for DC with the JLA.
Captain Mar-Vell says:
"The Mighty Thor says:"this fight is just like dc vs marvel "Thats cause almost everyone in Marvel has been on the Avengers once and same for DC with the JLA. "
yea so this should just be decided as a tie
Rated R Superstar says:
"Eternal Chaos says:"Rated R Superstar says:Thats a great point and it kinda shows mine. the speedsters (on both sides) wouldn't have to worry about who was who, large groups of people would be getting taken out left and right before they could blink. Now maybe they miss Wanda long enough for my girl to clear the board or maybe they miss Zatanna and so she clears the board.""Eternal Chaos says:I see your point. But now who says any of the characters are going to go strait for the kill. Strange might not be viewed as a threat by anybody same goes for Wanda and Zatanna""Ok, now I have a statement to make. Ok, Thor moves just as fast as Supes, and his hammer moves more than 2 times faster than light. Can't he just hit Flash in the back of the head (being that the rule is nobody in DC can move faster than Light), than right afterwards hit Supes, while Sentry goes to fight Martian Manhunter, and Wanda just dusts Zatanna off and Strange just sends DC into Limbo?"Thor is just as fast as Superman? I never heard that but I'll take your word on it. Say he is then what? Superman has a weakness to magic, that doesn't mean he takes a shot from the hammer and goes down for the count. You guys keep making match ups that favor Marvel but who said they just pair up and go at it? Who says Thor doesn't go after Flash first and Martain Manunter cripples him with a telepathic attack? Who says Wanda and Zatanna match up? You see what I'm getting at, it wouldn't be all organized it would be chaos and the team with the most speed would win."
This is one of those situations where it kinda depends on a writer.
@Mar-Vell: Methos.
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