Justice League
vs.
Avengers
Rules:
Random encounter
Morals off
Win by KO or death
No bfr
Standard equipment
Fight takes place in an abandoned city
vs.
Random encounter
Morals off
Win by KO or death
No bfr
Standard equipment
Fight takes place in an abandoned city
Avengers stomp. Kara and Galatea don't have enough power to put down Hulk or Thor, probably not even Carol. They also don't have an answer for Vision's intangibility, and the numbers advantage that the Avengers don't even need really makes this one sided.
@stormdriven: @the_kidd: Made an edit to make it balance
Replace Shayera and this could be a closer fight. I'm still giving it to the Avengers, they're overall much more powerful.
Thor and vision can solo.
I know I'm late but I just wanted to make a solid argument for why Hawkgirl is a key player for her team and far from being the weak link.
Also Thor's city lvl blast is going to be countered fairly easy for Hawkgirl due to her planet lvl striking. Sidenote her mace is capable of disrupting/negating/repelling magic & magical beings such as Thor and Mjonir. Not to mention Hawkgirl is the better fighter and a specialists in espionage.
She's has planet lvl striking which is more than enough to counter Thor's blast
Hawkgirl beats Chaos Grundy who was soloing the entire league.(Her mace was more effective due to him being an magical being which would also apply to Thor)
@novaprime2: I'm curious why do you think that?
@novaprime2: I'm curious why do you think that?
More stronger, versatile, and much more ruthless. All of them are teambusters. Between Vision's phasing, Hulk's brute strength, Carol's energy projection and speed, and Thor's Godblast and weather manipulation, JL won't win.
??? Yeah because Green lantern, wonder woman and Captain Atom aren't versatile???
We already see this thread was bs when they included hawkgirl but the other three would wash the avengers.
@icec0ld: Wonder Woman versatile in DCAU??
@shehulk528: Awesome, JL takes it then, Hawk Girl was stronger than I rembered
@achillesspawn: I agree they would lose only because of Vision and MM hax abilities. I just don't it's as easy as everyone is making it seem.
But Hawkgirl is more than capable of taking on Thor and rendering his god blast useless as provided above. Her mace makes the biggest difference in this fight.
Wonder Woman was capable of fighting Superman pretty evenly before he realized it was her. WW was even able to fight and beat Persuader who out muscled Supergirl.
Diana's combined strength and skill would allow her to contend with Hulk. Better question is does she have her sword?
@achillesspawn: Being stronger isn't the only factor in a fight. Diana is far more skilled and faster on top of having the durability and strength to harm Hulk.
Don't think of damage output I'm simply saying she has already shown being capable of deflecting a Planet Busting blast so a city lvl blast wouldn't be hard for her.
A hit that was no where near planetary. Saying Thor could solo this team is wanking at it's finest. Even Captain America was able to push around Thor
Shayera with her mace has consistently hurt beings on Supermans lvl
Both WW and HG both have light speed reactions and scale to each other in speed. Lanterns beams are lightspeed
Hawkgirl was able to deflect Sapphires lasers who is also an Lantern.
Hawkgirl deflecting Lightning
Wonder woman was able to block multiple scattered light constructs from Amazo with Green lanterns powers
Blocking & Deflecting Lightning
??? Yeah because Green lantern, wonder woman and Captain Atom aren't versatile???
We already see this thread was bs when they included hawkgirl but the other three would wash the avengers.
I didn't say they weren't versatile, just not as versatile as the Avengers. Between the 4 of them they've got phasing, energy projection and manipulation, thunder clap, Godblast, weather manipulation, etc.
Lol they won't, they get stomped.
@novaprime2: And the League literally have a counter for that
Hawkgirl>Godblast
I'm confused on why do you & everyone else keeps ignoring the fact she has already deflected stronger blast and her mace negates magic.
Captain Atom can absorb energy and has energy manipulation
Thunder Clap?That's so versatile.....Even Wonder Woman can replicate a Thunder Clap...But even still that can be dodged and they all have the speed to do so.
The only problem here is Visions phasing
You wanna speak on versatile...Wonder Woman lasso which can force people to tell the truth there's nothing stop her from asking whoever she touches with it their weakness or how to stop them and she's the most skillful warrior here, Captain Atom can absorb/project energy,Hawkgirl mace can negate/repel magic & magical beings,and Lantern is the definition of versatility, just depends on his imagination.
@achillesspawn: Yes Hulk is stronger but as I have said before WW is far more skilled and has both Strength and Durability to contend with Hulk as shown above. Also speed definitely matters...You can't defeat what you can barely tag. WW would tag Hulk more than he would tag her. Not even factoring her massive skill advanatge
Glad we came to an agreement on her being able to counter that. But they can both kill each other
My point exactly if Cap can push Thor around it's laughable you think Hawkgirl yet alone Wonder Woman can't.
Actually yes I can scale them. Even Green lantern has fought Sinestro.
And that's just the thing they have just enough when it comes to damage output and once again speed does matter. Don't know what your talking about. Speed matters in every fight whether it's useless or not.
@achillesspawn: You obviously don't know what your talking about...I think you should let someone else speak
Your still proving my point. Hawkgirl who is just as skilled of an fighter is standing a chance.
She killed Chaos Grundy who the entire league couldn't defeat. Thor being magical only makes it easier for her to deal damage. It basically negs his durability They both can kill each other moving forward
You don't have to watch whole thing just the part I set the video to begin with. But if your not gonna even look at the scans I'm providing there is no need for you to even continue trying to debate. We can just disagree/agree with one another.
Speed matters, my advice to you is to never say that again when it comes to VS battles. Once again I've already showed their capable of putting their opponents down. Am I saying this would be easy ?HELL NO I'm just simply saying this battle isn't as onesided as people make it out to be.
@achillesspawn: I agree but it was done.
The video starts with the scene needed after the scene is over. You can be done with the vid
What's inaccurate?Also Thor was being hurt by Cap WW can do the same and more. But it doesn't matter cause Hawkgirl will deal with Thor while WW defends against Hulk. When has he BFR?and do you have the scan of him using that in battle.
Despite her being outmatched she still held her own against Mongul and beat Around Bizarro who is basically a less smarter Superman.
I'm gonna go back and do a rewatch if this continues any longer to gather more feats.
@achillesspawn: It doesn't whether you call PIS or not, it still happened and it proves WW and HG are more than capable of doing the same.
She's far faster and arguably more skilled. He isn't beating her easily Enough with the assumptions
That isn't BFRing he's only opening a portal to bring Hulk to him nor is he in battle not to mention it's a charge up. Do you have an actual scan of him using it to get rid someone in battle? But here is where it gets even better HG can't be BFR by any magical means. Doctor Fate tried & couldn't at all. (27.75)
I still haven't even mentioned how Captain Atom is a walking Planetary+ Bomb
I'm gonna go start watching again so I'll visit this later and you've yet to shown anything. Whether Superman is weaker or stronger than Thor doesn't matter. Superman can still contend with Thor or Hulk.
@shehulk528: Ahh yes
>Thor gets "pushed around" by Cap
>Hawkgirl has planet level striking
GOAT double standards at work!
Lol, EMH Avengers stomp. The DCAU Justice League is super weak and nerfed, especially Wonder Woman. I mean she got literally got taken out by this, how embarrassing lmao
Thor still solos
All I’m going to say is Hawkgirl’s mace was more effective against Lobo than Flash, Wonder Woman, John, and Martian Manhunter AT THE SAME TIME.
She’s pulling her weight
@achillesspawn: wasn’t hawk girl hurt by huntress and black canary physically?
@edgelord91: her weapon is the real star, not her
@tifalockhart: true but you only have to KO her not break her weapon and she’s been dropped by electricity before
@edgelord91: ah ok I misunderstood the point you were making. Valid.
@edgelord91: That's not an anti feat for Hawkgirl. Both of them have superhuman stats,its' simply no different from when Thor was being negged by Cap. Except it took all three ladies teaming up
When has Shayera been taken out by magical lighting? All the leaguers were at their weakest in Justice League and got stronger over time.
Also Wonder Womans sword can cut through anyone here. As it withstood clashing with Persuaders Atomic axe which was able to make Superman bleed and she's far faster than anyone here.
She is very capable of speed blitzing
Also the light saber clown was definitely during her weaker era. Cause later on she was seen blocking lightning like it was nothing. But like I've said before Hawkgirl is the counter for Thor and WW holds off against Hulk.
@shehulk528: hawk girl was dropped by lightning during the justice lords arc at is vastly inferior to Thor stat wise, he wins handily.
Hulk vs Wonder Woman- leaning towards hulk but could go either way
Lol, EMH Avengers stomp. The DCAU Justice League is super weak and nerfed, especially Wonder Woman. I mean she got literally got taken out by this, how embarrassing lmao
Thor still solos
EMH Thor also has this high energy asteroid feat.
Along with crazy stuff like busting a small black hole.
and generating a hurricane with his lightning.
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