Julius Novachrono vs Acnologia

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Acnologia

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Current Julius = Lucius 🤫😏

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Acnologia would kill himself just trying to keep up with Julius lmao.

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Acnologia more than likely wins

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Acno accidentally solos the verse

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Acno accidentally solos the verse

How so? You do realize Asta is the bane of magic user?

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@kade17 said:
@lameliarleo said:

Acno accidentally solos the verse

How so? You do realize Asta is the bane of magic user?

Ok...?

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@lameliarleo: sure so how does a statue fight back exactly? How does he avoid getting aged into dust?

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#11  Edited By Kade17
@lameliarleo said:
@kade17 said:
@lameliarleo said:

Acno accidentally solos the verse

How so? You do realize Asta is the bane of magic user?

Ok...?

And so….he stands as a significant threat to the dragon [especially…when considering his speed advantage].

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@kade17: Dragon scales plus Arcane dragon slayer. He's highly resistant to magic. Time stop already exist in FT yet it wasn't used against Acno bc it wouldn't have worked. Plus he got time and space magic himself now.

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Acno stomps.

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Acnologia stomps

Julius uses Magic...Acnologia is the Dragon of Magic being capable of eating and being nigh immune to all types of magic...even those of conceptual nature...even conceptual EE from different power systems such as Curses were seen as unable to kill such the black dragon...

Julius doesn't have Dragon Slaying Magic...and I doubt he has the pure physicals needed to overcome the magic immunity to defeat Acnologia

At best he has speed...Acnologia will eventually tag him and one shot him with blatantly superior stats

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#15  Edited By Kade17
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@kade17: Dragon scales plus Arcane dragon slayer. He's highly resistant to magic. Time stop already exist in FT yet it wasn't used against Acno bc it wouldn't have worked. Plus he got time and space magic himself now.

But the very same arguments can be made for Lucius tho?

Devil heart plus Devil magic. He's highly resistant to magic and scaling up from time: Fate manipulation exist in BC and that was negged by Lucifero then imagine what Lucius can do [not to mention all the conceptual manipulation that he would benefit from].Plus he got time, space, gravity and practically the entirety of the underworld’s magic for himself now?

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Acnologia stomps

Julius uses Magic...Acnologia is the Dragon of Magic being capable of eating and being nigh immune to all types of magic...even those of conceptual nature...even conceptual EE from different power systems such as Curses were seen as unable to kill such the black dragon...

Julius doesn't have Dragon Slaying Magic...and I doubt he has the pure physicals needed to overcome the magic immunity to defeat Acnologia

At best he has speed...Acnologia will eventually tag him and one shot him with blatantly superior stats

And likewise… the situation’s very similar for Our Lord and Savior - Lucius.

Acnologia lacks the means to circumvent the DH’s and by extension is incapable of making any significant straddle towards victory. and in the same breath, we saw how EE via spatial magic was literally ineffective, null and void.

What means then does the dragon have to claim victory when EE via spatial magic wasn’t even a slight hindrance [surely brute forcing his way to victory isn’t an argument?].

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Acno, speed is equalized so he won't have problem keeping up with Julius, plus the big stat advantage and magic resistance makes this one sided.

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Acnologia would kill himself just trying to keep up with Julius lmao.

Speed is equalized.

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Acno, speed is equalized so he won't have problem keeping up with Julius, plus the big stat advantage and magic resistance makes this one sided.

Current Julius = Lucius 🤫😏

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@kade17: Aren't they different people?

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@kade17: Pretty sure they are, 2 people born in one body.

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@kade17 said:

Acno stomps.

How so?

he's resistenent to time and soul magic so how is Lucius gonna do anything to him?

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Acno dog walks the verse

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Acnologia stomps the verse.

Scales higher than dragon gods. Is immune to nearly all magic. Can eat magic as well as concepts.

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Zzzzz speed equal fight

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@michigane120:

That's how fodder FT is. They still get blitzed in Equal speed matches.

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#29  Edited By GodlyShinigami

Acno stomps. LOL at Julius soloing FT

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@kade17 said:

Acno stomps.

How so?

he's resistenent to time and soul magic so how is Lucius gonna do anything to him?

That’s the thing… he doesn’t have to…Lucius literally has several layers of regeneration/immortality that Acnologia cant circumvent. The same can’t be said?

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#31  Edited By Kade17
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Acno dog walks the verse

I beg to differ…. Asta literally should be able to cleave the dragon in half should the opportunity presents itself….furthermore, the vast majority of the verse holds a significant speed advantage over FT [which includes Asta plus precognition and zetten]. All in all, that reality doesn’t seem so far fetched…..ain’t it?

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  • Acnologia stomps the verse. Scales higher than dragon gods. Is immune to nearly all magic. Can eat magic as well as concepts.

so are devils/paladins.

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Acnologia stomps

Zeref Fh> Dimaria= Ultear= Lucius

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#34  Edited By Kade17
@friederich said:

Acnologia stomps

Zeref Fh> Dimaria= Ultear= Lucius

Huh….In what way are they equal?👀

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Devils are not immune to magic, the play establishes that a special type of magic is needed to hurt your heart above all...

we can see as Lilith and Nammah are trapped in Natch's dimension, Zenon being destroyed by Langris - Yuno's Space / Star attacks. the only complicated thing is to destroy his heart, but the average dragon slayer magic is already Arcana, and acnologia has the strongest among them..

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#36  Edited By Friederich

@kade17: Through time magic feats, Dimaria can stop time in an area, just like Lucius. Ultear can move within it, just like Lucius. She can prevent magical attacks from being made, just like Lucius. She can turn back time in short and larger zones with Last Age, just like Lucius. all of that inferior to Zeref FH which in turn is no match for the dragon

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@friederich:

Devils are not immune to magic, the play establishes that a special type of magic is needed to hurt your heart above all...

Their hearts are even better you not only need specific magic you also need to match their dimension.

we can see as Lilith and Nammah are trapped in Natch's dimension

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Since when does this count as trapping someone?

Zenon being destroyed by Langris - Yuno's Space / Star attacks.

Neither Spatial Magic nor Star Magic can kill Devils.

the only complicated thing is to destroy his heart, but the average dragon slayer magic is already Arcana, and acnologia has the strongest among them..

So the only complicated thing is beating the Devils? You can't beat them without destroying their heart. And why is Dragon Slayer Magic Arcane? Can it match a Devil's dimensionality? If not it doesn't even meet the first requirement.

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Saying Ultear and Dimaria = Lucius is wild behaviour.

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@wk_decaff: Right there he shows you how both magic destroys Zenon's body, except his heart. so yes, they have no immunity. your scans prove what was said, they were trapped in a dimension, therefore, they had to destroy it...

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@wk_decaff: Right there he shows you how both magic destroys Zenon's body, except his heart. so yes, they have no immunity. your scans prove what was said, they were trapped in a dimension, therefore, they had to destroy it...

This did little to address my post.

1.) Nobody cares if you can damage a Devil's body they'll just heal instantly, if you can't destroy the heart you can't stop them.

2.) They didn't get trapped they destroyed it as soon as he tried to trap them.

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Well, by feats, they are. at least in regards to time magic, which is what they claim to defeat Acnologia...

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#42  Edited By Kade17
@friederich said:

@kade17: Through time magic feats, Dimaria can stop time in an area, just like Lucius. Ultear can move within it, just like Lucius. She can prevent magical attacks from being made, just like Lucius. She can turn back time in short and larger zones with Last Age, just like Lucius. all of that inferior to Zeref FH which in turn is no match for the dragon

I disagree… at best you could argue them having similar feats [timestopping feats to julius, that is] but you do realize Julius has a far more robust move of time ability than just time stop? time loop, time steal, reversal, acceleration, precognition, binding and time annihilation? And Lucius scales so far above Julius it isn’t even funny.

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@wk_decaff: If you can harm his body, it doesn't matter if you talk about immunity, that doesn't exist. dragons are not affected by any magic that is not a dragon slayer type, if there is a magical immunity, it is ...

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@friederich: Let me repeat what I said because again, address what I'm saying.

Me: "Nobody cares if you can damage a Devil's body they'll just heal instantly, if you can't destroy the heart you can't stop them."

You: "If you can harm his body, it doesn't matter if you talk about immunity, that doesn't exist. dragons are not affected by any magic that is not a dragon slayer type, if there is a magical immunity, it is ..."

It's their heart that is immune damaging their body does nothing.

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#45  Edited By Friederich

@kade17: They are not more solid because they have more versatility, to break something down: Ultear has the ability to see the Lucius future abiltiy unlike she can use these futures to attack her rival. that's versatility. Dimaria's time stop doesn't support mobility of thought, which the Lucius/Julius loop does. they are differences but not necessarily superior. E.N.D can ignore time techniques, Zeref also thanks to ps, and that before his FH. there is no way, with magic of time or soul, it will not defeat Acnologia, it has a defense within its own series..

funny that by feats the deagon is better

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Lucius' time magic has layers that nobody in FT (to my knowledge) has. But that's a story for another time.

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@wk_decaff: they could calmly seal the devils, without needing to harm them. again, bye to the immunity you speak of. The dragons have better defense/magic immunity feats, so Acnologia has better ps than Lucius

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@wk_decaff: they could calmly seal the devils, without needing to harm them. again, bye to the immunity you speak of. The dragons have better defense/magic immunity feats, so Acnologia has better ps than Lucius

Seal them like Nacht? Or like Dorothy?

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@wk_decaff: neither natch nor dorothy has. seals, a technique that removes you from the site, is a Battlefield Remove type, not a seal. again, if they were immune, they would not have been removed in the first place. do not insist that there is no..

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@wk_decaff: neither natch nor dorothy has. seals, a technique that removes you from the site, is a Battlefield Remove type, not a seal. again, if they were immune, they would not have been removed in the first place. do not insist that there is no..

They weren't removed in the first place, they overpowered it.