Joker vs Black mask

My votes on Joker but please leave ur thoughts thkz

hey jj. i would go wit joker too.

Black Mask for the win!  He can beat Red Hood and go toe-to-toe with Batman.  He behaves intelligently and fights that way too, instead of acting like a clown.

Joker is shot to death.

Black Mask just shoots Joker in the face.

 Joker doesn't dodge bullets, especially not ones from marksmen.

True, but I wont play around, WHEN HE F@CKS WITH ME HES DEAD!

@dravenprice50: I don't care but the mods don't want anyone using language so keep that in mind. Also I'd go with joker here, he's too chaotic and would probably win by some crazy means, and even if sionis does cap joker, he'd probably have a bomb rigged to go off if his heart stopped, he always gets the last laugh so to speak

Thanks for telling me, and true, but i fought him before, it was more of a draw in H2H. Now if he uses a bomb like you say, hopefully i can escape BEFORE the bomb goes off in my secret escape doors.

The Joker

Bump :D

Roman wins this!

If you forgot all the mythos and just think about straight facts, Roman probably wins.

I'll give it to Black Mask.

Joker

Black Mask is a match for Spoiler

Batgirl>>>Spoiler

Joker took down Batgirl with ease. (Bullet through the stomach)

Joker>>>>>>Black Mask

The Joker's got a wider array of impressive feats so I'll go with him.

You are comparing the use of a gun with an H2H feat.

Black Mask is cooler.

Joker kicks the ish out of any other Batman villain.

@warlordeternal: 1. It's abc logic, it doesn't have to make sense, especially the way I used it

2. Joker wins decisively because he has better marksmanship, better fighting skill, and most important of all, far superior weaponry. A physically exhausted Bruce Wayne was kicking Romans face in, Joker gives a healthy batman a good fight.

H2h? Black Mask wins.

Only way I'd see this being close if it was a battle of marksmanship if both are armed with guns. Or if Joker catches BM off-gaurd with his standard equipment (joker gas, hidden gun/blades, etc.) and/or unpredictability.

But for the most part BM just doesn't frolick around, so I'm giving it to him for the majority.

This fight ends with Black Mask standing over a dead Joker.

Black mask then proceeds to drop a flower on Joker.

Then, Black Mask drops the mask and the flower's pump on the Joker, revealing the Joker's face under the mask.

@jacthripper: Are you referring to the Killing Joke? If that's the case then your ABC logic is flawed as you used entirely different scenarios. The incident in the Killing Joke wasn't even a fight. He took her completely by surprise, outside her costume. Black Mask actually fought spoiler twice and won both fights.

Could Joker win? Possibly, but don't use ABC logic when the methods of victory are entirely different.

@warlordeternal: I was purposely using flawed abc logic, it was a joke.

@jacthripper: Oh. Okay.

It was really hard for me to tell as I've had discussions with people who used ABC logic or whatever type of flawed argument, and actually believed it was a valid use.

@warlordeternal: lol, that pic

I still think the joker takes a slight majority though, just more homicidal IMO

@warlordeternal: Me too. You just have to gauge the validity of the feats used.

Alright.

I remember this one guy who actually believed that the Savage Hulk could easily beat Silver Age Superman.

@warlordeternal: He was probably messing with you intentionally or just extremely insufficient and stubborn with his knowledge on comics.

Black-Mask.

This is him. He never really read any Superman books. He was using wiki to get his knowledge on him.

Lol.. Well. Wow.

Joker has defeated black mask

@jacthripper: Uh no. Spoiler>>>>>>>>>>>Black Mask. Black Mask is no match for spoiler and Joker beats both of them

@warlordeternal: His abc logic isn’t flawed and he didn’t use alternate and different scenarios. The incident in killing joke was a fight. Black mask didn’t win against spoiler. Joker beats spoiler who can beat black mask. And the methods of victory aren’t different. Stop lying.

Everyone here. Joker beats Black Mask and that’s a fact.

Joker is a skilled fighter, an expert marksman, and he’s more intelligent. All of you Roman and Black Mask fanboys can go shut up.

@sleuth: He does dodge bullets.

@z___: Bruh no. H2H. joker wins this.

@starreturnsz: Who's Lying?

Gallery

Hell, In the New52 he even easily beat Eiko, who was training Spoiler.

Granted my knowledge of Joker has improved over the past 5 years since I last commented on this thread. Joker is no slouch and has the credentials to take this fight. that being said though, I could have sworn that he didn't fight Babs in the Killing Joke. I recall him surprising her at the front door with a gun. If I am mistaken then please show me the fight.

Jacthripper said himself that he was joking. You are defending an "argument" that wasn't suppose to be taken seriously. Unless he himself got it all wrong, which again, help us out here

@warlordeternal: Uh no, you are still lying. Eiko can beat black Mask and Joker can go toe to toe with Batman and he can beat Black Mask. He did fight bans in the killing joke. Also no the argument iIS suppose to be taken seriously. Joker beat Black Mask. Face it.

For a little context, Eiko was posing as Catwoman, while Selina ran Gotham's crime as top Mob-boss.

Can you show me proof?

Are you joking?

@warlordeternal: All of that is bull. Joker beats Black Mask. Face it. Your arguments are bullcrap.

@starreturnsz: I wasn't even disagreeing that Black Mask could lose. I was proving that he can and has defeated Spoiler and Eiko. You refuse to back up your claims with evidence, so we're done here.

@starreturnsz: To be fair, you didn’t give evidence of anything while the other guy did provide scans for Black Mask, you just kept repeating that Joker wins.

Also insults and cursing are against the rules.

@socajunkie: No he didn’t provide scans and I actually did provide evidence and no I didn’t keep repeating that Joker wins. He didn’t give no scans, only bull

@starreturnsz: Why are the scans he gave in posts 39 and 41 bull?

They aren’t scans they are bull.

@starreturnsz: You're a brand new troll with just 10 posts. Hope you get banned with your behavior on this thread. I flagged your posts.

That is all.

Did the same to you too