Fight at the TOP arena, No time limit to fusion, blue KKX20 goku has no stamina strain what so ever(like base form), perfect team work no morals win by all means!!!!
Jiren Vs SSJ2 Kefla, Hit, Merged Zamasu And KKx20 Goku!!!
We need to see Jiren go all out before we can answer this. Merged Zamasu could be a difficult fight on his own for all we know.
I agree for the most part, but he would handily beat Merged Zamasu even based on what we have seen. That being said, if it's a fight to the death I don't know how he would put him down for good.
Jiren, Merged Zamasu was weak in terms of power, Kefla would be the most difficult and with Hit and Goku there too could prove a tricky situation. But I'm sure with Morals off Jiren would blitz Hit, Goku, Kefla and destroy Zamasus body. Don't see how Jiren could deal with Zamasus spirit after though. Im sure he would pull something out of his a**
Fight at the TOP arena, No time limit to fusion, blue KKX20 goku has no stamina strain what so ever(like base form), perfect team work no morals win by all means!!!!
It changes everything if this is TOP.
Remember how Hit immobilised Jiren for less than 5 seconds all by himself? Do that and the rest of them (whom are easily MFTL) can push him off the arena.
Merged Zamasu is the non-factor here. He was beaten by SSBKK goku and thus weaker than Goku Black.
If this fight has the rules of the ToP then yes, but just because they are fighting at the ToP arena doesn't mean it has the same rules. Like I said, Jiren can easily beat Zamasu in a fight, just can't think of a way for him to keep him defeated.
We need to see Jiren go all out before we can answer this. Merged Zamasu could be a difficult fight on his own for all we know.
Everyone except Kefla is a non-factor
He kills them all, then loses to or stalemates universe merged zamasu.
Take away zamasu’s universe form, and jiren solos.
Jiren wipes the floor with them,if zamasu uses universe form then maybe a stalemate,but if not then jiren wins.
Everyone except Kefla is a non-factor
Theoretically yeah, but Zamasu probably still stalemates Jiren.
@thegreatlordd: Jiren doesn't have a technique to destroy an immortal
Jiren wipes the floor with them,if zamasu uses universe form then maybe a stalemate,but if not then jiren wins.
Everyone except Kefla is a non-factor
Theoretically yeah, but Zamasu probably still stalemates Jiren.
No, Zamasu is infinitely weaker than Jiren
The team wins just because of Merged Zamasu's regeneration (and he's also close to Jiren). Hit and Goku are fodder. Kefla can put up somewhat of a fight, but unless she transforms or gets some more rage power-up, she's going down rather quickly.
He kills them all, then loses to or stalemates universe merged zamasu.
Take away zamasu’s universe form, and jiren solos.
This
Everyone except Kefla is a non-factor
Theoretically yeah, but Zamasu probably still stalemates Jiren.
No, Zamasu is infinitely weaker than Jiren
And Kefla isn't?
No since she kept up witth UI Goku
Literally everyone here is universe level except for Jiren and Kefla who are high universe level (infinite 3D power).
@thegreatlordd: Because fiction
@tabbender: There is no universe level or high universe level hear. Just a bunch of strong characters who we have no idea of their busting potential. The only way to decide who is stronger is scaling. Jiren is the strongest, Kefla, Goku, and Zamasu could all be stronger than each other, and Hit is the weakest. Zamasu's immortality can also be a problem.
@alextheboss: Yet Kefla kept up with UI Goku who even at the time was able to hold his own against Jiren and shake infinite realms.
@thegreatlordd: No because Zamasu didn't keep up with UI Goku, while Kefla did. That's how feats work.
Yet Kefla kept up with UI Goku who even at the time was able to hold his own against Jiren and shake infinite realms.
"Shaking infinite realms" didn't happen. Pretty sure Krillin just said it felt like everything was shaking or something, but what does Krillin know? Unless Whis or another angel who is competent says "they are so strong they can shake the infinite void" I wouldn't put much stalk into it. Especially since most of the dialog is just stuff the episode writers came up with.
All we know is Jiren and UI Goku are above everyone else in the ToP. Current SSB kkx20 Goku is arguably as strong as or stronger than Kefla as he was keeping up with Vegeta who beat GoD Toppo.
No because Zamasu didn't keep up with UI Goku, while Kefla did. That's how feats work.
We don't even know if UI Goku is above SSB Vegito. I can do the same thing you just did.
No because Kefla never kept up with SSB Vegito, while Zamasu did. That's how feats work.
That proves nothing because we don't know if SSB Vegito or UI Goku is stronger.
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