Jiren vs Demigra

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Jiren probably get stomped by Demigra but i made this thread out of curiosity since Jiren overwanked so much recently.

jiren solos the verse

Jiren smacks him. Demigra was beaten by the CaC+Post-God Ki SSJ3 Goku and Beerus was confident he could take out Demigra easily and Jiren is probably superior to the team or Beerus.

Demigra especially if its composite, it becomes a massive spite.

Demigra is 4D, he solos DBS

i still dont believe jiren is clearly above beerus

Demigra stomps especially his DBH form. He is multiversal

@ravensupreme: Me either. The jiren statements have been really vague and the only GoD he is confirmed stronger than is belmond

Vague dimensional scaling is still vague. Based on actual combat feats, Jiren humiliates him.

@hittheassasin: Demigra doesn't need to fight him, he can TP him (which already was shown working in newest DLC) or BFR him to another timeline. Jiren is not winning this especially with his jobbing attitude.

@gaoron: If you can show feats for Demigra using TP in a combat situation, especially against someone so pridefull and willstrong(this is shown to be important in regard to TP in DB, see Babidi), I guess that would be an option.

Same for BFR'ing him to another timeline, I'd totally need scans of him doing that to anyone in a fight ever. Besides, wasn't it stated that Jiren's power transcends time anyway?

And based on feats, Jiren can straight one-shot Demigra, who lost to the CaC(weaker than current SSJ3 by feats and logic) and post-God Ki SSJ3 Goku, even in his final form, compared to Jiren, who can stomp characters as strong as 20 SSJB's at once while holding back.

The only argument you could make for Demigra is that Xenoverse characters are stronger than normal ones, which requires using shady evidence and scaling, as well as disregarding the logic behind Xenoverse as a whole.

Jiren wins.

@hittheassasin: Demigra's first move in combat was mind control. He controled Piccolo when CaC wanted to fight him, controlled Buu (which Babidi failed to btw), tried to control Beerus (which failed due to god ki), controled F. Trunks while fighting CaC and tried to control Goku (which failed again due to god ki). Jiren doesn't have god ki and was showned to be mind controlled already.

Demigra didn't used wormholes in battle but he did transport Broly and Baby to other timelines

Vados statement about transcending time would mean Jiren is 4th dimensional which still wasn't proven. Until it's proven I would take it for no more than a hyperbole and simple time stop resistance on Jiren's part.

Cac was actually strong enough to hold his own against both Whis and Beerus in a test. He is much stronger than God Goku. Jiren jobs in fights anyway letting his opponents use their strongest attacks which against hax character like Demigra is not a good move.

Demigra after absorbing Toki Toki could create entire timeline. Mira in xenoverse 2 absorbed timeline itself and was stated to bust entire universe and more if he overloads his core, Bardock and Mira clash erased part of history of a timeline, Fu absorbed timelines in which he changed history. Xenoverse characters are in fact more powerfull than their canon counterparts by feats and statements.

@hittheassasin:

@gaoron: I don't really see a point in debating this to be honest. It all depends on your interpretation of Xenoverse characters and their feats, I can definitely see the argument in favour of Demigra, though I personally disagree with it.

The only thing I really have to concretely disagree on in your post is the point about the CaC. Being able to hold his own against Beerus and Whis is hardly indicative of his actual power considering how those characters love to hold back and that Beerus was heavily implied to be > Demigra throughout the game and because his other showings suggest inferiority to SSJ3 Goku(being unable to dodge Demigra's spears, while Goku could).

@hittheassasin: I can understand confusion in terms of power levels in Xenoverse (when it comes to Demigra because he didn't had much destructive showings and relies mostly on scaling) but when it comes to Demigra's hax Jiren has no counter for it especially mind control. He has no god ki, no tp resistance and was shown to be mind controlled already in Xenoverse. And Demigra lvl of mind control is no joke either. He controlled Broly who resisted tp before, Buu which Babidi failed to do and he was doing it with his hologram while hismelf being imprisoned in dimension outside of time seperated from the multiverse.

Nothing shady about Xenoverse 2 scaling,the CaC is essentially a composite DB character who now even has SSB and was already beating Beerus in every encounter.He is even capable of fighting Whis and winning..Demigra stomps really bad via tp or any other strategy he has and if we include DBH several characters are stronger then canon Zeno (based on feats) of warping and destroying infinite worlds.

Jiren:

1. Has strength that is beyond time.
2. Can block punches that shake an entire Universe with only 1 finger.
3. Can shake realms that are of infinite size with his Chi alone.
4. Is stronger than Gods of Destruction, who can erase entire Universes.

He wins.

Jiren one shot

@hopefullyitwork: It was confirmed that he's weaker than Broly who is "probably" stronger than Beerus, then how is Jiren stronger than all Gods of Destruction ?

Lol universal Vs multiversal?

Demigra solos dbs

Nah he can't solo DBS. Jiren probably takes this

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Jiren

Demigra was beaten by my OC and is a piece of sh*t fodder filler villain.

Put him on the shelf with the DB Heroes roster (and by shelf, I of course mean dumpster).

At least most of the Heroes characters have better designs than 99.9% of the TOP.

Jiren takes this.

Jiren still gets mind controlled just like in the game...

Demigra should win in a hard difficulty fight. He’s about equal to Jiren in power but has also has hax that Jiren doesn’t have.

Demigra is like 5d he solos DBS.

@hatsoffmelo: xenoverse 2 future warrior solos the entire T.O.P with negative difficulty and then gets bored so he goes after the angels and Zeno and kills them.

On topic demigra one shots most hated dragon ball characer Jiren.

@gideongarner01: future warrior would one shot even high tier saint seiya characters

Lol this is a mismatch. Anyways my time patroller one shots composite dragon ball.

Xeno/heroes characters blink canon DBS away like a bug.

Current Demigra in heroes stomps any version of jiren we've seen.

Even worse, this looks like DBS vs XV1, where Demigra blinks him.

Why the bump thou?

Unless we used DBH Jiren.

OT: Demigra blinks DBS to oblivion.

XenoVerse villains ugh. This dude was talking up Dabura... Gimme a break. Jiren fodderizes him.

Demigra stomps canon Zeno

@thejdg: Jiren can't even bust a timeline. Bro is Universal+ fodder brick lmao

Demigra turns him into a puppet with 4D mindhax or just nukes him lol

Dunno about DBH Jiren, but DBS Jiren (Anime and Manga) is getting utterly destroyed by Demigra.

Keep in mind that he should outstat the entire canon setting as a whole, and that they would be unable to overcome his powers and abilities. In an equal fight, that might work but in that case this guy is just so much beyond DBS since Xenoverse.

Honestly his Dark Ki alone will powernull that brick, and there is nothing he can do about it.

Even if we used DBH Jiren, Current Demigra would mop the the floor with him lmao.

No way this is a debate, Demigra cleans house with DBS.

Dbs Jiren is legit lower dimensional compared to Demigra considering beats's world and shit, even if he wasnt lower d still dont matter, canon zeno needs to charge up an attack just to destroy 12 timelines maybe, demigra is folding a literal infinite amount.

Demigra clears all of DBS, Current Demigra also folds DBH Jiren

Like, he has so many more abilities, far stronger, faster etc.

Demigra