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#1 Edited by GodsVileandDarkwing (1017 posts) - - Show Bio
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Rules:

  1. This is Jiraiya before he was killed by Pain without any injuries; whereas this is Orochimaru before he was trapped in the Infinite Tsukuyomi without any injuries.
  2. Jiraiya is using Sage Mode; whereas Orochimaru has body modifications done on him.
  3. 1-on-1 death battle.
  4. No interference or holding back.

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In Amegakure, where Jiraiya met Pain.

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#2 Posted by Chair-Sama (2281 posts) - - Show Bio

ohhhhh good one. might have been done before but would be a great fight.

With sage mode i feel jiraiya has the advantage.

also in canon we have never seen orochimaru vs pain BUT we have seen this little kid bit from the games:

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as just a rough idea.

i think jiraiya would take it in a super long fight.

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#3 Posted by Jiraiya_sageofoil (2313 posts) - - Show Bio

Jiraiya stomps

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#4 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

Sage Mode would give Jiraiya the advantage. I could only see Orochimaru pulling a win if he had a significant amount of prep.

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#5 Posted by Chair-Sama (2281 posts) - - Show Bio

Sage Mode would give Jiraiya the advantage. I could only see Orochimaru pulling a win if he had a significant amount of prep.

agreed. but even without prep, orochimaru has done some pretty impressive stuff.

Hell jiraiya himself was almost killed by 4 tail naruto and orochimaru openly engaged in combat with the 4 tails and lived. kishimoto has always been a bit back and fourth with the two's power.

jiraiya has a HUGE Amp with Sage mode, but orochimaru has a HUGE advantage with his multitude of jitsu's, including Edo tensei and his various forms of regeneration/immortality with his snake techniques.

i mean,you can literally put orochimaru down and he usually STILL finds a way to worm himself out of it, AND now he has his arms back. remember every time weve seen him between fighting the third hokage and undoing the Reaper death seal he has not had his OWN arms to use for his ninjutsu.

i feel it would be very close and far from a stomp, but jiraiya would probably come out on top.

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#6 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

@chair-sama: True enough for the most part. I feel Edo Tensei is definitely a technique that would tip the battle in Orochimaru's favor, but it would require preparation.

It's also fair to note that Orochimaru is extremely difficult to kill, which is ultimately what allowed him to do battle with 4 Tailed Naruto without sustaining any serious damage. Even 3 Tailed Naruto was able to blitz and take his arm off at the start of their battle, although Orochimaru did use the Body Replacement Technique at the last minute.

It wouldn't be completely one-sided, but I feel Sage Mode would give Jiraiya the edge here.

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#7 Edited by Basemanjack (177 posts) - - Show Bio

Jiraiya stomps

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#8 Posted by bowlt_swagg_320 (2194 posts) - - Show Bio

Jiraiya

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#9 Posted by the_stegman (39864 posts) - - Show Bio

Pervy Sage.

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#11 Posted by HitTheAssasin (7323 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure what's meant by the body modifications. This is a really close battle, I'm currently unsure who takes it.

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#12 Posted by Hulkage (5322 posts) - - Show Bio

Other than Frog Song what is Jiraiya doing to someone who took the 4 tails bijuu bomb beam? 4 tails bijuu bomb is >>> than Oodama Rasengan which is the most destructive Jutsu we've seen from Jiraiya. Oro had the better Genjutsu, an insane regen, edo tensei, anis more large scale attacks. Also seeing as what ultimately led to Jiraiya's downfall was getting his arm cut off and Oro had the Kusanagi he definitely has a way to put down P Sage. Other than Frog Song I don't see him doing it. Especially if Jiraiya doesn't use it from the jump

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#13 Edited by OriginalCaptain (4324 posts) - - Show Bio

I think its implied that Oro is superior, but imo Jiraiya has better feats

Then again Jiraiya almost died when he tried to seal the 4 tails, while Oro fought the 4 tails casually and even tanked a bijuu bomb.

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#14 Edited by WorldofRuin6 (1286 posts) - - Show Bio

Jiraiya for a slim majority. With his multiple summons and maasive rasengan, he can continuously put oro down until his regen is taxed and he legit dies. SM is a huge factor that would make jiraiya too fast and strong in the long run.

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#15 Posted by reaverlation (25231 posts) - - Show Bio

Pervy Sage due to Sage Mode.

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#17 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (2991 posts) - - Show Bio

Could go either way but I see Orochimaru winning in the end due to his vast amount of jutsu, difficulty to kill, and the fact he can summon Manda to counter Jiraiya's summons.

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#19 Posted by AlphaQ (5789 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Orochimaru is probably superior.

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#20 Posted by TheBeardOfZues (2801 posts) - - Show Bio

Jariya has the advantage on power but Oro outlasts him and wins in the end.

It's a shame we never got to see Oro or Tsunade use their sage modes... Kabuto's dragon sage was dope.

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#22 Posted by ProteusXManRxis (4445 posts) - - Show Bio

Pervy sage.

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#23 Posted by JustSomeRandomKid (5143 posts) - - Show Bio

Leaning towards Jiraiya

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#24 Posted by HitTheAssasin (7323 posts) - - Show Bio

Orochimaru. Contending with KN4 while weakened and not using his strongest jutsu's is better than anything Jiraiya has done.

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#28 Posted by LoveEveryone (666 posts) - - Show Bio

Sage Mode Jirayai blitz Orochimaru. KN4 fought Base Jirayai and Base Orochimaru. KN4 never fought SM Jirayai.

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#30 Posted by Grinningf0x (1424 posts) - - Show Bio

SM Jiraiya wins

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#32 Posted by Zuriel-el (2913 posts) - - Show Bio

edo tensei or not, jiraiya wins via frog song.

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#33 Posted by Mee09 (5206 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know if Sage Mode Jiraiya could defeat the form of Orochimaru that Itach sealed with the Totsuka Blade. Full power Jiraiya vs Full power Orochimaru. Is a win for Orochimaru.

SM Jiraiya handily defeats Oro when he isn't at full power.

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#35 Posted by Jueix (2319 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#36 Posted by Gilateen (2414 posts) - - Show Bio

Pervy Sage

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#37 Posted by LimitlessSigil (1642 posts) - - Show Bio

@jueix: Why'd you bump? The consensus is Jiraiya.

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#38 Posted by LoveEveryone (666 posts) - - Show Bio

Jirayai. SM Jirayai is superior to 4 Tails Naruto who stalemated Orochimaru.

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#39 Posted by Direflash (757 posts) - - Show Bio

Jiraiya was actually seriously powerful. He would have killed Pain, all them together if they would have been alive, felt pain and actually could have died.

Orochimaru is more cunning and actually has lots more cards on his sleeves, but he is not as powerful as Jira in any day.

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#40 Posted by glory84 (642 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite much? No one knows exactly how strong these niggas were at any point in their lives or even an estimate for it

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#41 Edited by glory84 (642 posts) - - Show Bio

@loveeveryone said:

Jirayai. SM Jirayai is superior to 4 Tails Naruto who stalemated Orochimaru.

He stalemated a sick and already dying orochimaru. Plus orochimaru was holding back, but it was never explained by how much

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#42 Posted by LimitlessSigil (1642 posts) - - Show Bio

@glory84: We can estimate exactly where both are...

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#43 Posted by LimitlessSigil (1642 posts) - - Show Bio

@glory84: Stalemated? Were we watching the same fight? Everything Orochimaru did Naruto casually demolished. Split him in half, blinked away his triple Rashomen...

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#44 Posted by xMangog__Beastx (3789 posts) - - Show Bio

Pervy Sage.

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#45 Posted by marvelfan1992 (1893 posts) - - Show Bio

Jiraiya

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@limitlesssigil said:

@glory84: Stalemated? Were we watching the same fight? Everything Orochimaru did Naruto casually demolished. Split him in half, blinked away his triple Rashomen...

Orochimaru was contantly fluctuating his power obviously. Whereas naruto was full power in 4 tails trying to kill him for almost the whole fight.. So We have no clue exactly how much orochimaru was holding back there.

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#47 Posted by Tektonic (986 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll back Orochimaru but it will be a hard battle either way. Anyone reading also interested in CaV'ing this? Think it would be a cool debate.