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Probably Jigen. Boros needs meteoric burst to keep up, and he can only do that a limited time. Plus Jigen can seal him.

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Boros doesn’t have defense against being sealed. He’s superior imo but burns out too quick.

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Boros speed blitzes him and takes him out in a few hits. Jigen might beat him in techniques but his durablity is shit.

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Boros blitz and kicks him into the moon or destroy the Earth. Boros could survive in extreme condition while I don't think Jigen can.

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Boros blitzes and oneshots with the moon kick, no one in Naruto seems to have physicals on that level.

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Jigen wins

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@manofthunderbolts65 said:

Boros blitzes and oneshots with the moon kick, no one in Naruto seems to have physicals on that level.

Boros literally has no speed scaling on Jigens level if anyones blitzing its him like really really badly, the moon kick is legit Mountain to Island Level in AP dude its not even that impressive Jigen scales massively above 7th Gate Guy who can create Island sized shock waves said shockwaves have destroyed rock before, Jirobo a low-Jonin tier character and the weakest member of the Sound 4 managed to catch a mountain sized Choji who would weigh into the millions of tons in his hand coming at him at Mach+ speeds and overpower/ throw him away and Juubito who can destroy barriers/ the Deity Gates that can tank Juubidama's with his seer physical strength alone and 50% BSM who can palm through a beam that split the Moon in half hollow or not still an impressive feat

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Jigen wins, boros gets turned into a pin cushion. @notcensored: Mountain sized chouji, when did this happen.

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Jigen wins, boros gets turned into a pin cushion. @notcensored: Mountain sized chouji, when did this happen.

Super Multi-Size Technique (Chou Baika no Jutsu)

Ninjutsu, Hiden, Supplementary

User: Akimichi Chouji

His massive body becomes a mountain!! The spectacle!! The glory!! Crushing everything in his path!!

The height of the Akimichi clan’s secret Multi-Size Technique, which multiplies the user’s body size beyond belief. The attack method depends on the situation and the user’s inventiveness, but massive punches, kicks and body slamming is common. However, the abnormally extreme physical change also places a large burden on the user’s body.

Just seeing this unbelievably giant body makes most enemies lose their will to fight!?

Here u can see him as comparable to mountains in the background both in the manga and anime;

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Arhat Fist (Rakanken)

Taijutsu, Offensive, Close-range

From monster strength comes the most impressive and violent fighting style! Furious like an evil spirit!

To Jiroubou, his body is a weapon used to break and crush his opponents. But he doesn’t use only brute strength: the Arhat Fist allows for a great variety of attacks. Since his transformation drastically increases his destructive power, any attack used in his Level 2 is strong enough to finish the foe.

A technique capable of throwing a transformed Chouji, as big as a mountain, many meters from the ground! This attack shows how impressive his strength is.

Show-offy, but, at the same time, with complex body movements and weight controls. His entire body becomes a weapon!

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@notcensored: I would call that a small mountain. But this is pointless, naruto is moon level durability, jigen whipped him in two hits.

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@notcensored: I would call that a small mountain.

I would call it average mountain size him dwarfing trees, scaling to the other mountains in the background, being stated to be mountain sized and scaling to other individuals like Gamabunta, the Bijuu and the Gedo Statue in size make it even more consistent

But this is pointless, naruto is moon level durability, jigen whipped him in two hits.

yh but people be sleeping on mid-tier Naruto characters regardless when it comes to physicals might as well bring it up

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Boros stomps badly.

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#15  Edited By Animebattles12

@notcensored: Sorry, but Choji was not mountain sized lol. Not even small mountain sized.

He looks several times smaller than Pica from One Piece who is considered small mountain size ( between 1500 and 1700 m ).

Choji looks hill size at best.

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@animebattles12 said:

@notcensored: Sorry, but Choji was not mountain sized lol.

Literally stated twice to be so and scales to other mountain+ sized beings 🗿

Not even small mountain sized.

You're underestimating how tall trees are the average Eastern White Pine tree is 45m tall they were probably even bigger than that as Naruto and co were in the same forest as Choji and the braches of those trees were bigger than they were and the trunks of the tree being significantly larger closer in size to a Giant Sequoia (75m) or bigger Redwoods (100m) if anything

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Choji is absolutely dwarfing the forest in his showing which is very consistent with the size of actual Mountains he would literally only need to be 80.2x to 38x (on the higher end) bigger than those trees to reach the mean Mountain size which is very realistic for reference a Pine at 45 meters is 25x bigger than a 6 foot man he legit only has to be to a Sequoria what a Pine tree (basically) is to us to be an average Moutain which isn't that far of a stretch

He looks several times smaller than Pica from One Piece who is considered small mountain size (between 1500 and 1700 m).

Different art styles Pica was also standing up

Choji looks hill size at best.

This is as bad as the Los Noches downplay he's way bigger than any hill I'd like you to remember hes lying down so we aren't seeing him at his full height and yet hes still dwarfing the surrounding forest not only that we have consistent statements and other showings that back this notion up regardless

regardless this is getting off topic if u want to continue this we can do it in DMs

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@animebattles12 said:

@notcensored: Sorry, but Choji was not mountain sized lol.

Literally stated twice to be so and scales to other mountain+ sized beings 🗿

Not even small mountain sized.

You're underestimating how tall trees are the average Eastern White Pine tree is 45m tall they were probably even bigger than that as Naruto and co were in the same forest as Choji and the braches of those trees were bigger than they were and the trunks of the tree being significantly larger closer in size to a Giant Sequoia (75m) or bigger Redwoods (100m) if anything

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Choji is absolutely dwarfing the forest in his showing which is very consistent with the size of actual Mountains he would literally only need to be 80.2x to 38x (on the higher end) bigger than those trees to reach the mean Mountain size which is very realistic for reference a Pine at 45 meters is 25x bigger than a 6 foot man he legit only has to be to a Sequoria what a Pine tree (basically) is to us to be an average Moutain which isn't that far of a stretch

He looks several times smaller than Pica from One Piece who is considered small mountain size (between 1500 and 1700 m).

Different art styles Pica was also standing up

Choji looks hill size at best.

This is as bad as the Los Noches downplay he's way bigger than any hill I'd like you to remember hes lying down so we aren't seeing him at his full height and yet hes still dwarfing the surrounding forest not only that we have consistent statements and other showings that back this notion up regardless

regardless this is getting off topic if u want to continue this we can do it in DMs

Allright, i'll agree that hill size is lowball, but he's definitely not bigger than small mountain size.

You can clearly see how big the trees are compared to his hand, while Pica's hands dwarfed every house, building and tree on Dressrosa. Which is why i'm a bit reluctant to accept Choji being mountain sized.

Statements are only relevant when the shown size matches the statement.

Like i said, I underestimated his size by saying he was only hill sized, but he's certainly not bigger than a small mountain.

OT: Not that this changes anything about the original topic, but i just wanted to voice my thoughts on Choji being mountain sized, which i am a bit skeptical about.

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Boros stomps. Jigen will exhaust himself rather quickly trying to deal with Boros' regen.

Moon Kick=GG, Meteoric Burst and CSRC=GG

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#20  Edited By JOVIOLMA  Online

Jigen for obviously reason, curious to see the reaching to claim Boros would win this one, with city buster punches, Moon kick is not even scratching him, what's up with the people here ?

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@notcensored: Mountain sized Choji? Island level Guy? Since when? Even 8th gated guy struggled to do anything more than slightly damaging the shinjuu with his strongest attack, you underestimate how big an island truly is.

In the original depiction of the fight, the author wanted to have Boros lift a a skyscraper sized building and throw it at Saitama while breaking his own ship in half, the same ship that withstood reentry and Tatsumaki's TK.

Boros also managed to tank many of Saitama's punches and regenerate instantly from them, in speed they are at least comparable; Boros scales to FF who ranges from relativistic to near LS, yet he was curbstomped by Monster Garou who's comparable to Boros, at the very least they should be close.

CSRC should seal the deal, or even Boros casual blasts or constant emitted energy from his body which evaporated his ship which in turn withstood reentry temperatures, and I can't recall Naruto characters having any good heat resistance feats, Ama would kill them all if it wasn't for absorption hax.

Jigen cannot tank a planetary level attack (average feats & statements put Boros at planet level since the databooks put him at Star level and the manga at Surface wiping + in the anime he's planet level), he gets vaporized or overwhelmed by Isshiki's power before he can do more while Boros tanks or regens from anything he can dish out.

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@notcensored: Mountain sized Choji? Island level Guy? Since when? Even 8th gated guy struggled to do anything more than slightly damaging the shinjuu with his strongest attack, you underestimate how big an island truly is.

In the original depiction of the fight, the author wanted to have Boros lift a skyscraper sized building and throw it at Saitama while breaking his own ship in half, the same ship that withstood reentry and Tatsumaki's TK.

Boros also managed to tank many of Saitama's punches and regenerate instantly from them, in speed they are at least comparable; Boros scales to FF who ranges from relativistic to near LS, yet he was curbstomped by Monster Garou who's comparable to Boros, at the very least they should be close.

CSRC should seal the deal, or even Boros casual blasts or constant emitted energy from his body which evaporated his ship which in turn withstood reentry temperatures, and I can't recall Naruto characters having any good heat resistance feats, Ama would kill them all if it wasn't for absorption hax.

Jigen cannot tank a planetary level attack (average feats & statements put Boros at planet level since the databooks put him at Star level and the manga at Surface wiping + in the anime he's planet level), he gets vaporized or overwhelmed by Isshiki's power before he can do more while Boros tanks or regens from anything he can dish out.

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Jigen solostomps the verse.

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#24  Edited By RDCDesmond

Jigen wins without even needing his final form

Lol at Boros having star level AP or DC. Wiping surface of earth no where near star level.

N if we want to wank databooks Jigen beat Hokage Narurto who can blow away the earth.

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@rdcdesmond: I never said he is star level, that's just what the databook says.

I just averaged out all the feats and statements from Boros (like with all comic characters) then put him decisively at planet level + the anime puts him at that level. Surface wiping kinda feels like a lowball when you consider this dude ravaged entire planets.

Since when can Hokage Naruto blow away the Earth? His best struggle was against Sasuke on VoTE and that explosion wasn't even above island level.

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#26  Edited By RDCDesmond

@manofthunderbolts65: I didn’t @ you tho lol

2- since when can boros destroy a star

Also I am just saying what a databook said

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@notcensored: Mountain sized Choji?

I posted the scans above i couldn't be bother doing it again check post #11 and #16

Island level Guy? Since when?

He makes a shockwave bigger than Turtle Island

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Even 8th gated guy struggled to do anything more than slightly damaging the shinjuu with his strongest attack, you underestimate how big an island truly is.

Turtle Island is constantly referred to as a legitamate Island multiple times and the Shinju is just that durable it literally scales to the 10 Tails it is its final form so of course Guy couldn't damage it he doesn't have the AP to

In the original depiction of the fight, the author wanted to have Boros lift a skyscraper sized building and throw it at Saitama while breaking his own ship in half, the same ship that withstood reentry and Tatsumaki's TK.

So like what Country Level? Still not enough to harm the guy who beat up SPSM Naruto who already has physical scaling above that through just his Toneri feats

Boros also managed to tank many of Saitama's punches and regenerate instantly from them,

His regen isn't an issue Naruto had to much regen for Jigen to put down and much better stamina feats than Boros and he got negged by him and like Naruto, Boros has no counter to being sealed in the pot after being weakened enough by his constant regen which takes energy from him

in speed they are at least comparable; Boros scales to FF who ranges from relativistic to near LS, yet he was curbstomped by Monster Garou who's comparable to Boros, at the very least they should be close.

Jigen scales massively above KCM Naruto who can blitz a Rel+ Raikage (consistent with the fact he could easily tank LS travel) and Base Hokage Naruto who can casually evade photon beams while being wracked with sneezes and in extreme pain from a Chakra illness

CSRC should seal the deal,

Its his last resort and the fight won't even come to that point

or even Boros casual blasts or constant emitted energy from his body which evaporated his ship which in turn withstood reentry temperatures,

Rentry temperature is like 1649 Degrees Celsius Sasuke's Amaterasu can vape steel knives within seconds that have a vaporizing point of 2760 Degrees Celsius and Jigen easily tanked it before absorbing it

and I can't recall Naruto characters having any good heat resistance feats, Ama would kill them all if it wasn't for absorption hax.

Naruto's V1 Cloak tanked Amaterasu

Jigen cannot tank a planetary level attack (average feats & statements put Boros at planet level since the databooks put him at Star level and the manga at Surface wiping + in the anime he's planet level),

Right 1) No feat gets Boros to Planet Level he gets like Multi-Continental through Moon Level if u take his vaporization statement to the utmost, 2) all his statements in official media by ONE put him at surface level, 3) the guidebook you're referencing was never confirmed to be written by ONE himself the official data book he has worked on contradicts the statements in the blu-ray guide by stating he can "shave the Earth", 4) in the anime it only states he'll "send you and this planet to hell" which can be consistent with the surface level statement as well

And if we really want to go this Planetary or Star Level route Jigen has FAR more statements and scaling to get to either of those tiers than Boros does

he gets vaporized or overwhelmed by Isshiki's power before he can do more while Boros tanks or regens from anything he can dish out.

Boros isn't vaping him his durability is too high for that, Boros won't last long enough for his poor stamina to be an issue once he realizes he can't kill Boros conventionally he'll just restrain him and seal him like he did Naruto

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Boros is not planet level, let alone Star level, the fact people still think this is true is unbelievable.

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@notcensored:

You made a very convincing argument for Choji's size. It's things like this that keeps me on this site.

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@joviolma: I would think most people wth basic OPM knowledge realize he is surface wiping at best which is magnitudes lower than planet busting. Even if the databook was translated correctly he still has zero planet or star level feats so the statement would need to be ignored regardless.

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@manofthunderbolts65 said:

@notcensored: Mountain sized Choji?

I posted the scans above i couldn't be bother doing it again check post #11 and #16

Island level Guy? Since when?

He makes a shockwave bigger than Turtle Island

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Even 8th gated guy struggled to do anything more than slightly damaging the shinjuu with his strongest attack, you underestimate how big an island truly is.

Turtle Island is constantly referred to as a legitamate Island multiple times and the Shinju is just that durable it literally scales to the 10 Tails it is its final form so of course Guy couldn't damage it he doesn't have the AP to

In the original depiction of the fight, the author wanted to have Boros lift a skyscraper sized building and throw it at Saitama while breaking his own ship in half, the same ship that withstood reentry and Tatsumaki's TK.

So like what Country Level? Still not enough to harm the guy who beat up SPSM Naruto who already has physical scaling above that through just his Toneri feats

Boros also managed to tank many of Saitama's punches and regenerate instantly from them,

His regen isn't an issue Naruto had to much regen for Jigen to put down and much better stamina feats than Boros and he got negged by him and like Naruto, Boros has no counter to being sealed in the pot after being weakened enough by his constant regen which takes energy from him

in speed they are at least comparable; Boros scales to FF who ranges from relativistic to near LS, yet he was curbstomped by Monster Garou who's comparable to Boros, at the very least they should be close.

Jigen scales massively above KCM Naruto who can blitz a Rel+ Raikage (consistent with the fact he could easily tank LS travel) and Base Hokage Naruto who can casually evade photon beams while being wracked with sneezes and in extreme pain from a Chakra illness

CSRC should seal the deal,

Its his last resort and the fight won't even come to that point

or even Boros casual blasts or constant emitted energy from his body which evaporated his ship which in turn withstood reentry temperatures,

Rentry temperature is like 1649 Degrees Celsius Sasuke's Amaterasu can vape steel knives within seconds that have a vaporizing point of 2760 Degrees Celsius and Jigen easily tanked it before absorbing it

and I can't recall Naruto characters having any good heat resistance feats, Ama would kill them all if it wasn't for absorption hax.

Naruto's V1 Cloak tanked Amaterasu

Jigen cannot tank a planetary level attack (average feats & statements put Boros at planet level since the databooks put him at Star level and the manga at Surface wiping + in the anime he's planet level),

Right 1) No feat gets Boros to Planet Level he gets like Multi-Continental through Moon Level if u take his vaporization statement to the utmost, 2) all his statements in official media by ONE put him at surface level, 3) the guidebook you're referencing was never confirmed to be written by ONE himself the official data book he has worked on contradicts the statements in the blu-ray guide by stating he can "shave the Earth", 4) in the anime it only states he'll "send you and this planet to hell" which can be consistent with the surface level statement as well

And if we really want to go this Planetary or Star Level route Jigen has FAR more statements and scaling to get to either of those tiers than Boros does

he gets vaporized or overwhelmed by Isshiki's power before he can do more while Boros tanks or regens from anything he can dish out.

Boros isn't vaping him his durability is too high for that, Boros won't last long enough for his poor stamina to be an issue once he realizes he can't kill Boros conventionally he'll just restrain him and seal him like he did Naruto

If you are using statements I could just wank the star level statement to oblivion and that's it, the real deal Mountains are hella large to make trees look like atoms, Choji is hill size at best on those scans, and Naruto is heavily inconsistent when it comes to size, aka Madara's PS being much larger than Sasuke's, the Rashomon Gates, Gamabunta, the Bijuus, and so forth.

The real question is how big that island truly is, and we could count that as an outlier since Madara's PS was only Multi-mountain level by feats which should be below large island, 7th Gate Guy even failed to kill or permanently cripple a weakened Kisame with that attack as he still had chakra left to free from Yamato's Wood release which supresses it. I seriously doubt Boros, somebody who survived Saitama's punches would get beaten by 7th Gate Guy of all people. Not to mention it's just a shockwave as you said. It's pretty much evident that Boros could have survived the serious punch due to regen, but since he wasted all of his energy in CSRC he couldn't yet he still was conscious to say his last words and Saitama recognized his strength.

Toneri's feat has been calced at continental max iirc, not moon level since he just split it rather than vaporizing it. Not to mention the feat itself is wanked since the moon was hollow in that movie.

Last time I read Naruto cannot regen lost limbs or come back from a bloody paste in less than a second

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His regen is orders of magnitude below Boros', and the energy required to regen your entire body is nothing compared to a literal planetary vaporizing attack so no it doesn't take much from him speaking logically.

I think you are conscious of the fact both combatants here suffer from stamina issues, Jigen isn't an exception.

Fine, so you recognize they are at least comparable.

If he somehow starts to get stomped he will realize it's time to use it, last resort doesn't mean it's out of the equation.

I forgot to mention Boros' ship was most likely FTL, otherwise he wouldn't have bothered in conquering planets across the goddamn universe. That means his own ship was easily above 1649°C which is the lowest of lowballs in reentry category.

Tanked doesn't mean immune, he saved his ass with it then dropped it on the ground while it started to vaporize. Jigen doesn't have a chakra cloak like Naruto does.

That's the definition of a lowball, it's still an official guide. I already told you I never said he's Star level, I just went with what I had and averaged it out = planet level.

Depends on how you interpret what the databook said, a lot of translators say that it meant that he could destroy the whole planet while others say that he could only "shave" the planet (or destroy the surface). Some translations like the one I mentioned even say that he could have destroyed a star.

Imho, he could destroy the world. He's not called the Dominator of the Universe for nothing lol. Not all planets are as small as the Earth just like Jupiter or Saturn, bold of anyone to think he hasn't destroyed some planets before.

Manga Boros = surface wiper

Anime Boros = planetary

as simple as that, if you want to lowball to manga and webcomic that's fine but then don't wank the other side to oblivion.

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Anime Boros who’s star level,wins.

WC/Manga Boros who’s continental,loses.

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#33  Edited By JOVIOLMA  Online

He is called the dominator of the universe cuz he invades fodder planets and fought against other fodder with no feats, no reason to assume he is planetary or anything like that when ONE ranks him as Dragon or High dragon and the Databook ranks him as such, a god level threat can threat the whole humanity and cause their demise, Boros was unable to put humans in this situation even with CSRC.

And you can't calculate Boros heat feats by no way cuz of his ship speed, because FTL travel speed is not calculated by KE and by the fact we have no idea how his ship travel, raw speed, spatial bending, none of them are calculable. And no version of Boros is star level either way, why people keep bringing this.

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@joviolma said:

He is called the dominator of the universe cuz he invades fodder planets and fought against other fodder with no feats, no reason to assume he is planetary or anything like that when ONE ranks him as Dragon or High dragon and the Databook ranks him as such, a god level threat can threat the whole humanity and cause their demise, Boros was unable to put humans in this situation even with CSRC.

And you can't calculate Boros heat feats by no way cuz of his ship speed, because FTL travel speed is not calculated by KE and by the fact we have no idea how his ship travel, raw speed, spatial bending ? And no version of Boros is star level either way, why people keep bringing this.

What the hell does Dragon+ even mean? That's just a dick move by ONE to not hype him up, it's implied in literally everywhere that he could've at least destroyed the surface which would indeed end the human race besides Saitama or maybe Blast, which could be the reason why he's Dragon+.

My theories are:

1. Since CSRC is a last resort and can't do it casually, he's not God lvl.

2. Saitama would still survive, which means humanity as a whole wouldn't end.

GL with the lowball and italic spam

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What the hell does Dragon+ even mean? That's just a dick move by ONE to not hype him up, it's implied in literally everywhere that he could've at least destroyed the surface which would indeed end the human race besides Saitama or maybe Blast, which could be the reason why he's Dragon+.

ONE the guy who writes the series and is the guy who created the character said his threat level so did the Databook, so case closed there's nothing to argue about anymore. And this only proof that despite reaching a surface level AoE with his last resort he would be unable to kill all of the humans on Earth or put them in a situation they would be extinct. Dragon + is a being that ranks above your average Dragon, Goketsu can be regarded as one cuz he embarrassed a dragon level threat without trying. And if only Blast and Saitama survive he is god level either way, cuz Saitama would have no food to eat, so would Blast.

My theories are:

1. Since CSRC is a last resort and can't do it casually, he's not God lvl.

2. Saitama would still survive, which means humanity as a whole wouldn't end.

GL with the lowball and italic spam

Well like you said, ''theories'' they don't have value to me and you should notice the flaw in your statement since if Saitama survived he would die either way, the lack of life on Earth he would eventually die without food, and is irrelevant if he can do casually or not, threat levels are not about casual or serious, is about what you can threat, if Boros can put humanity in a situation that would cause their extinction with CSRC he is god level, spoiler alert, ONE and the databook confirmed he is not, he is above your average dragon but not God level.

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Lol, V2 Jigen curbstomps. Even V1 should be enough.

Boros is not touching Jigen in cqc. Jigen will size-shift to cellular size, enter Boros ear and turn Boros to pin cushion from inside while systematically absorbing his energy.

Jigen can also bfr/seal/karma mark. His options are limitless. His hax gives him the edge over someone who just bullrushes.

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@joviolma said:

What the hell does Dragon+ even mean? That's just a dick move by ONE to not hype him up, it's implied in literally everywhere that he could've at least destroyed the surface which would indeed end the human race besides Saitama or maybe Blast, which could be the reason why he's Dragon+.

ONE the guy who writes the series and is the guy who created the character said his threat level so did the Databook, so case closed there's nothing to argue about anymore. And this only proof that despite reaching a surface level AoE with his last resort he would be unable to kill all of the humans on Earth or put them in a situation they would be extinct. Dragon + is a being that ranks above your average Dragon, Goketsu can be regarded as one cuz he embarrassed a dragon level threat without trying. And if only Blast and Saitama survive he is god level either way, cuz Saitama would have no food to eat, so would Blast.

My theories are:

1. Since CSRC is a last resort and can't do it casually, he's not God lvl.

2. Saitama would still survive, which means humanity as a whole wouldn't end.

GL with the lowball and italic spam

Well like you said, ''theories'' they don't have value to me and you should notice the flaw in your statement since if Saitama survived he would die either way, the lack of life on Earth he would eventually die without food, and is irrelevant if he can do casually or not, threat levels are not about casual or serious, is about what you can threat, if Boros can put humanity in a situation that would cause their extinction with CSRC he is god level, spoiler alert, ONE and the databook confirmed he is not, he is above your average dragon but not God level.

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Lol these arguments are laughable, Goketsu is not listed as ''Dragon+'', heck, not even Garou is for that matter.

Boros on the other hand has a means to end most but not all of humanity for a single reason, Saitama, and he seems to be beyond physical limitations like breathing (on the moon he only held his breath once he saw where he was in if you actually pay attention) If he doesn't die humanity won't go extinct, as simple as that. It would take a long while for him to ultimately die since we don't even know if stuff like old age can even affect him, his body doesn't even produce dead cells anymore which is the reason why he's bald. Surface wiping would end irl humanity in a whim which is the bare minimum of all lowballs Naruto wankers could ever get to make. Saying he cannot surface wipe would even go against the lore of the series, the author saying he's dragon+ it's only a dick move to not hype him up so we can get an even bigger big baddy later on the series.

oh and pls don't do this it's not cool

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Lol these arguments are laughable

Irony at it's finest it seems.

Goketsu is not listed as ''Dragon+'', heck, not even Garou is for that matter.

Dragon + is a term fans created to indicate dragon level monsters that are superior to others ranked in the same degree, Goketsu is called one by fans for embarrass effortless another dragon level threat and ONE said that Boros is above a average dragon level threat, so are several monsters into the very association.

Boros on the other hand has a means to end most but not all of humanity for a single reason, Saitama

No life exist anymore, no food, no plants, no reproduction, Humanity is extinct and only Saitama is left he will die die regardless in some time, conclusion, Boros put humanity in a situation thatcause their extinction, this is level god, and yet official sources including the very creator don't list him as such, so case closed.

and he seems to be beyond physical limitations like breathing (on the moon he only held his breath once he saw where he was in if you actually pay attention) If he doesn't die humanity won't go extinct, as simple as that

He couldn't breath in the moon and was clearly bothered by this, nothing suggests he can live without food, he buys food for a reason.

. It would take a long while for him to ultimately die since we don't even know if stuff like old age can even affect him, his body doesn't even produce dead cells anymore which is the reason why he's bald

No, this happens cuz his limiter broke and took the hair with him, it simple means the price he paid for it was his hair, nothing to do with survive without food, water or air.

. Surface wiping would end irl humanity in a whim which is the bare minimum of all lowballs Naruto wankers could ever get to make.

Boros beam would be unable to cause extinction or threat the humanity, and surface wiping can't even be replicated or showed in real life to calculate or scale with Boros's CSRC, unlike ones like Toneri who are confirmed by narration ,himself and Naruto to be able to destroy the Earth's surface and causing extinction to humanity with the Moon and earth collision, same collision the tenseigan chakra can resist ;)

Saying he cannot surface wipe would even go against the lore of the series, the author saying he's dragon+ it's only a dick move to not hype him up so we can get an even bigger big baddy later on the series.

oh and pls don't do this it's not cool

Excuse number 2, no argument here, just a user trying to justify the lack of humanity threatening of a character like Boros, between the guy who create the series + canon databook vs you, well, you know my position and which one I will believe. And about the italics, I will do that as much as I want though.

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@joviolma said:

Lol these arguments are laughable

Irony at it's finest it seems.

Goketsu is not listed as ''Dragon+'', heck, not even Garou is for that matter.

Dragon + is a term fans created to indicate dragon level monsters that are superior to others ranked in the same degree, Goketsu is called one by fans for embarrass effortless another dragon level threat and ONE said that Boros is above a average dragon level threat, so are several monsters into the very association.

Boros on the other hand has a means to end most but not all of humanity for a single reason, Saitama

No life exist anymore, no food, no plants, no reproduction, Humanity is extinct and only Saitama is left he will die die regardless in some time, conclusion, Boros put humanity in a situation thatcause their extinction, this is level god, and yet official sources including the very creator don't list him as such, so case closed.

and he seems to be beyond physical limitations like breathing (on the moon he only held his breath once he saw where he was in if you actually pay attention) If he doesn't die humanity won't go extinct, as simple as that

He couldn't breath in the moon and was clearly bothered by this, nothing suggests he can live without food, he buys food for a reason.

. It would take a long while for him to ultimately die since we don't even know if stuff like old age can even affect him, his body doesn't even produce dead cells anymore which is the reason why he's bald

No, this happens cuz his limiter broke and took the hair with him, it simple means the price he paid for it was his hair, nothing to do with survive without food, water or air.

. Surface wiping would end irl humanity in a whim which is the bare minimum of all lowballs Naruto wankers could ever get to make.

Boros beam would be unable to cause extinction or threat the humanity, and surface wiping can't even be replicated or showed in real life to calculate or scale with Boros's CSRC, unlike ones like Toneri who are confirmed by narration ,himself and Naruto to be able to destroy the Earth's surface and causing extinction to humanity with the Moon and earth collision, same collision the tenseigan chakra can resist ;)

Saying he cannot surface wipe would even go against the lore of the series, the author saying he's dragon+ it's only a dick move to not hype him up so we can get an even bigger big baddy later on the series.

oh and pls don't do this it's not cool

Excuse number 2, no argument here, just a user trying to justify the lack of humanity threatening of a character like Boros. I will do that as much as I want though.

Why didn't I get a notif by your comment btw? Too scared to see my reply or something?

-Yay subtle insults

-''Fans'', not the author and I think you are forgetting something, the Hero Association never even knew about Boros' existence, so we have no way to know how they would've ranked him.

-And? Saitama is above anyone in OPM, so I don't see your point when you say he cannot cause extinction. He can still wipe out humanity, case closed. If Saitama existed irl the result would be the same, but he doesn't. Somebody like Boros would obliterate the irl Earth in a whim with no resistance whatsoever, yet there was one in OPM which is the sole reason he couldn't, the author is most likely hyping up the next big bad villain so Boros doesn't steal the show (yet he already kinda does).

-He wasn't bothered till he looked at his environment and had that lame expression of his atm, he just takes a precaution because he still thinks he's a normal human. By the sheer exchange in pressure all of the air in his lungs should have already disappeared, there's no way he wouldn't realize this, he doesn't need to breathe, as simple as that. Even if he can't live without food he could just eat whatever the hell he picks up since his body is so durable and unnatural, he even bit off Sonic's sword.

-Hair is produced from dead cells, which means his body most likely doesn't produce them anymore. That is the ''price'' you are talking about.

-Bold of you to assume Boros can't end life because it's a ''statement'' or ''narration'' then go and wank Toneri like hell who guess what is nothing but mere statements, his moon splitting feat is continental at best and that was a hollow moon so it's arguably much less. Hypocrisy at its best.

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Why didn't I get a notif by your comment btw? Too scared to see my reply or something?

Cringe. U acting like no one address you I already did twice and tagged you, don't blame me for you being account being glitched or cuz you didn't received notifications.

-Yay subtle insults

-''Fans'', not the author and I think you are forgetting something, the Hero Association never even knew about Boros' existence, so we have no way to know how they would've ranked him.

The hero association didn't knew, ONE and the Databook knew so that's a moot point of yours again as always, both of him rank as a Dragon and that's all, no mention of being God level was ever brought by the guy who created the series and the canon databook, conclusion fodder Boros is unable to put humanity in a situation that could cause their extinction.

災害レベル: 竜 = Disaster level : Dragon
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-And? Saitama is above anyone in OPM, so I don't see your point when you say he cannot cause extinction.

Don't care, didn't asked, didn't denied, I'm asking for evidence he can survive without the following: food & water. Can you provide me evidence he would survive it from the canon manga ?

He can still wipe out humanity, case closed.

No he can't, otherwise he would be regarded as God instead of Dragon by the author and databook.

If Saitama existed irl the result would be the same, but he doesn't. Somebody like Boros would obliterate the irl Earth in a whim with no resistance whatsoever

IRL, DSK would be a god level threat, so that's a moot point of yours again, please start to say something coherent this is getting boring.

yet there was one in OPM which is the sole reason he couldn't, the author is most likely hyping up the next big bad villain so Boros doesn't steal the show (yet he already kinda does).

No the author is answering a question about his threat level which was already confirmed before in the canon databook, your opinion brings no relevance to me at all, is just whining, so......And almost everyone knows that the final villain will be GOD and even Murata already hyped this off in a livestream even creating his own opinion about the series ending after this fight, another moot point.

-He wasn't bothered till he looked at his environment and had that lame expression of his atm, he just takes a precaution because he still thinks he's a normal human.

Non sense, Saitama once he get up was already with his mouth covered and filled and then he noticed he was in space, he doesn't think he is a normal human, he better than anyone knows about his capacities, that's why he doesn't care fighting any monster despite the lack of knowledge about them.

By the sheer exchange in pressure all of the air in his lungs should have already disappeared, there's no way he wouldn't realize this, he doesn't need to breathe, as simple as that.

IRL, Saitama is durable enough to withstand the effects of space but clearly is still limited by his own biology as he still needs to eat and clearly needed to breath considering he was bothered by the situation.

Even if he can't live without food he could just eat whatever the hell he picks up since his body is so durable and unnatural, he even bit off Sonic's sword.

He didn't eat Sonic's sword, he just bit it off and broke it apart, you are reaching more and more now.

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-Hair is produced from dead cells, which means his body most likely doesn't produce them anymore. That is the ''price'' you are talking about.

No, the price I'm talking about is Saitama breaking his limiter and the colateral effect being baldness which was confirmed by Doctor Genus.

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-Bold of you to assume Boros can't end life because it's a ''statement'' or ''narration''

No statement other than Boros himself or narration says Boros can wipe life is actually the oppose, statement from ONE and databook says he is Dragon or above, conclusion he can't end life, FACT, he would be unable to put humanity in a situation that would cause their extinction even with his CSRC.

then go and wank Toneri like hell who guess what is nothing but mere statements

U complaining about statements ? What feats Boros has other than break parts of large city level ships ? Toneri at least split a moon in half and could move it from orbit.

  • > Confirmation from himself, narration and characters that he would throw the Moon on Earth and would destroy it causing humanity extinction and causing the very moon to be destroyed as well
  • > Effortless split a Moon without strain with a casual swing of his blade while causing both parts to split away from each other suggesting he overcame it's GBE
  • > Was planning to survive the Moon crash which the narration confirms Hamura's Tenseigan was able to do as it could protect the castle where him and Hinata would hide
  • > Confirmed once he attained the Tenseigan he didn't needed Hamura's tenseigan anymore and was still planning to make Hinata his bride once again meaning he was still planning to survive the Moon collision against the Earth
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his moon splitting feat is continental at best and that was a hollow moon so it's arguably much less.

Moon was not holllow, it possessed a hollow portion near the surface so a civilization can live in there, but split it in half hollow or not is above anything Boros displayed either way ;)

Hypocrisy at its best.

Well, one has confirmation from multiple plot points to be able to accomplish such a feat, one has nothing but his own statement that he would wipe the surface(multi-continental AoE) and the very creator disagrees with the idea of him being god level, moot point is moot.

-Oh wow look at how intimidated and terrified I am by Mr. Italics, they are so cool

U think italics are intimidating ? Bruh, u should stop replying, u looking cringe as more you try to(miserably) argue, but guess I should play along

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Why didn't I get a notif by your comment btw? Too scared to see my reply or something?

Cringe. U acting like no one address you I already did twice and tagged you, don't blame me for you being account being glitched or cuz you didn't received notifications.

-Yay subtle insults

-''Fans'', not the author and I think you are forgetting something, the Hero Association never even knew about Boros' existence, so we have no way to know how they would've ranked him.

The hero association didn't knew, ONE and the Databook knew so that's a moot point of yours again as always, both of him rank as a Dragon and that's all, no mention of being God level was ever brought by the guy who created the series and the canon databook, conclusion fodder Boros is unable to put humanity in a situation that could cause their extinction.

-And? Saitama is above anyone in OPM, so I don't see your point when you say he cannot cause extinction.

Don't care, didn't asked, didn't denied, I'm asking for evidence he can survive without the following: food & water. Can you provide me evidence he would survive it from the canon manga ?

He can still wipe out humanity, case closed.

No he can't, otherwise he would be regarded as God instead of Dragon by the author and databook.

If Saitama existed irl the result would be the same, but he doesn't. Somebody like Boros would obliterate the irl Earth in a whim with no resistance whatsoever

IRL, DSK would be a god level threat, so that's a moot point of yours again, please start to say something coherent this is getting boring.

yet there was one in OPM which is the sole reason he couldn't, the author is most likely hyping up the next big bad villain so Boros doesn't steal the show (yet he already kinda does).

No the author is answering a question about his threat level which was already confirmed before in the canon databook, your opinion brings no relevance to me at all, is just whining, so......And almost everyone knows that the final villain will be GOD and even Murata already hyped this off in a livestream even creating his own opinion about the series ending after this fight, another moot point.

-He wasn't bothered till he looked at his environment and had that lame expression of his atm, he just takes a precaution because he still thinks he's a normal human.

Non sense, Saitama once he get up was already with his mouth covered and filled and then he noticed he was in space, he doesn't think he is a normal human, he better than anyone knows about his capacities, that's why he doesn't care fighting any monster despite the lack of knowledge about them.

By the sheer exchange in pressure all of the air in his lungs should have already disappeared, there's no way he wouldn't realize this, he doesn't need to breathe, as simple as that.

IRL, Saitama is durable enough to withstand the effects of space but clearly is still limited by his own biology as he still needs to eat and clearly needed to breath considering he was bothered by the situation.

Even if he can't live without food he could just eat whatever the hell he picks up since his body is so durable and unnatural, he even bit off Sonic's sword.

He didn't eat Sonic's sword, he just bit it off and broke it apart, you are reaching more and more now.

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-Hair is produced from dead cells, which means his body most likely doesn't produce them anymore. That is the ''price'' you are talking about.

No, the price I'm talking about is Saitama breaking his limiter and the colateral effect being baldness which was confirmed by Doctor Genus.

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-Bold of you to assume Boros can't end life because it's a ''statement'' or ''narration''

No statement other than Boros himself or narration says Boros can wipe life is actually the oppose, statement from ONE and databook says he is Dragon or above, conclusion he can't end life, FACT, he would be unable to put humanity in a situation that would cause their extinction even with his CSRC.

then go and wank Toneri like hell who guess what is nothing but mere statements

U complaining about statements ? What feats Boros has other than break parts of large city level ships ? Toneri at least split a moon in half and could move it from orbit.

  • > Confirmation from himself, narration and characters that he would throw the Moon on Earth and would destroy it causing humanity extinction and causing the very moon to be destroyed as well
  • > Effortless split a Moon without strain with a casual swing of his blade while causing both parts to split away from each other suggesting he overcame it's GBE
  • > Was planning to survive the Moon crash which the narration confirms Hamura's Tenseigan was able to do as it could protect the castle where him and Hinata would hide
  • > Confirmed once he attained the Tenseigan he didn't needed Hamura's tenseigan anymore and was still planning to make Hinata his bride once again meaning he was still planning to survive the Moon collision against the Earth
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his moon splitting feat is continental at best and that was a hollow moon so it's arguably much less.

Moon was not holllow, it possessed a hollow portion near the surface so a civilization can live in there, but split it in half hollow or not is above anything Boros displayed either way ;)

Hypocrisy at its best.

Well, one has confirmation from multiple plot points to be able to accomplish such a feat, one has nothing but his own statement that he would wipe the surface(multi-continental AoE) and the very creator disagrees with the idea of him being god level, moot point is moot.

-Oh wow look at how intimidated and terrified I am by Mr. Italics, they are so cool

U think italics are intimidating ? Bruh, u should stop replying, u looking cringe as more you try to(miserably) argue.

-nice you took the b8 ;)

-Again? His attack was PLANET BUSTING according to yusuke muratathe life wipe comes from a mistranslation. Specifically a japanese word that means erase/shave depending on context. The context here is a bit ambiguos tho so it can be taken either way. “Shave the planet” or life wipe/surface wipe is what many translators went with but “erase the planet” or planet bust was the intended meaning according to the author.

You don't know what hype and narrative techniques are don't you? He wants to hype up the next big bad because he knows Boros is fodder to Saitama and it would ruin the prophecy. Every guide ever made state he's at the very damn least able to destroy the surface, you denying this to wank the Naruto side is unbelievable.

-Humanity includes Saitama, which is why he isn't God level, as simple as that. He would be god by irl standards and that is a fact. Just because there is someone more massively powerful than he is who won't die by CSRC doesn't mean he can't lol.

-DSK being God? That is just, wrong. He doesn't have the means to end all of life in a whim like Boros and biological weapons/nukes still exist, he cannot survive a tsar bomba, you heavily underestimate irl Earth's arsenal when it comes to huge threats.

-Saitama is kind of dumb and took precautions, he looked stiff and uninterested till he looked at his environment and was like ''oh shit'' then jumped from Moon to Earth like it was nothing. An average human would die instantly so he's at the very least able to stay in space for an undefined period of time.

-So you think his body wouldn't be able to process anything he eats? He's able to punch away entire planets and survive a moon kick ffs, eating a sword wouldn't do anything to him.

-Ofc, breaking his limiter made him bald because it also stopped his cells from dying.

-Multiple guides state he's a surface wiper at the very least, planetary at average, and Star level at max. Saying he's dragon+ and that Saitama exists won't change what he's capable of. This is the most pathetic lowball I've seen in a while and that says something. Even people like Orochi or GS are massively above multi city busters (and cities in OPM are usually large af since everyone is encased in a gigacontinent) aka low dragons, you think Boros of all people wouldn't be able to end life? Lmao, even his fodders servants were dragon level.

-Hypocrisy at its finest, look up the guides, the canon, what Boros himself says (and you used the same backwards logic with Toneri ROFLMAO), even his nickname implies what he's capable of, and Toneri isn't planet level without TKing the moon which takes time, otherwise he's fodder. His beam wasn't ''casual'' by any means, he was actively trying to kill Naruto so I'm gonna stop your wank right there, what would be the purpose to tank the collision when he could've flied away just before? (And he could actually fly lol). Not to mention the moon is Naruto is at best semi-hollow with numerous layers on it so no, it's not identical to our real moon. I don't think Toneri is a moon buster either I reviewed his calcs and at best they put him at large country to multi continental. Your whole argument is based off the fact that he's Dragon+ which doesn't even make sense, you are either Dragon/God or you aren't, there should be no such thing as Dragon+ other than to hype up the next villain (most likely God himself from the manga/webcomic or even Blast), nobody in the association even knew Boros existed or what he's capable of, he literally fought with the only person able to fodderize him atm, none of the S-Class heroes besides maybe Blast would have been able to stop the CSRC which would mean human extinction other than Saitama.

-Does my argument look like cringe to you? Good to know tbh, I'll keep replying

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-nice you took the b8 ;)

Tag users with the intention to bait them is also against the rules and can result in ban so you should as well rephrase that.
Tag users with the intention to bait them is also against the rules and can result in ban so you should as well rephrase that.

-Again? His attack was PLANET BUSTING according to yusuke murata the life wipe comes from a mistranslation.

Specifically a japanese word that means erase/shave depending on context.The context here is a bit ambiguos tho so it can be taken either way. “Shave the planet” or life wipe/surface wipe is what many translators went with but “erase the planet” or planet bust was the intended meaning according to the author.

Canon manga, no evidence of planet busting other than Boros statement in the anime.
Canon manga, no evidence of planet busting other than Boros statement in the anime.
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災害レベル: 竜 = Disaster level : Dragon
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In the bottom left corner it says:

"Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon: Ruin/Erase/Shave the Earth. The roar of despair!!

The Kanji Means shave the Earth, not necessarily means that the Planet will be destroyed, and the fact that he is listed as a Dragon Level Threat, only proves the point that he can't destroy the Earth, let alone one Star.

削る- remove something from the surface(Not Planet Busting)-Shave something, strike it out

破滅- ruin; destruction; fall​, The fact that Boros is a DL Threat supports the notion that the correct statement is Ruin, that means, Ruins the Earth, he is not Planetary and not even the very author agrees with this notion

https://jisho.org/search/%E7%A0%B4%E6%BB%85

The fact that Boros needed to release all of his energy to even destroy the Surface and by the fact ONE ranks him as a Dragon level threat so does the databook means he is unable to blow up the planet or is anywhere close to Planetary, debunked and moot point. You didn't even bothered search or reaching that much, Murata is not the author neither said anything of that sort.

You don't know what hype and narrative techniques are don't you?

You don't know what evidence is do you ? I already brought the evidence that debunks the notion of him being god level, the author, the very databook confirming his threat level, bring something other than your opinion.

He wants to hype up the next big bad because he knows Boros is fodder to Saitama and it would ruin the prophecy.

There's no thing such as this, stop creating excuses thinking you prove a point, is in fact a poor interpretation and excuse, the prophecy is that Earth was in danger in the next months, Boros was not that threat, and regarding the prophecy when it comes to him, he made very clear the prophecy he received on his own planet was not reliable and we know pretty well based on webcomic and manga indication that said threat for Earth is going to be GOD, not Boros, weak sauce excuse.

Every guide ever made state he's at the very damn least able to destroy the surface, you denying this to wank the Naruto side is unbelievable.

Ruin the Earth, as well being unable to put humanity into danger ;) and you reaching more and more is also unbelievable considering that the only character I brought was no one but Toneri and what I mentioned wasn't disagreed by the Author, lol, seems like you're the one highballing someone here my dear friend while saying some weak sauce stuff, bringing excuses and failing miserable in prove a point.

-Humanity includes Saitama, which is why he isn't God level, as simple as that.

Saitama would die by lack of food and water,bring me canon feats proving he can live without both or move on.

He would be god by irl standards and that is a fact.

DSK would be a God level threat, lmao.

Just because there is someone more massively powerful than he is who won't die by CSRC doesn't mean he can't lol.

No one is talking about this, he still not God level though ONE and databook > your opinion. Now bring me feats or evidence Saitama can survive without eating.

-DSK being God? That is just, wrong. He doesn't have the means to end all of life in a whim like Boros and biological weapons/nukes still exist, he cannot survive a tsar bomba, you heavily underestimate irl Earth's arsenal when it comes to huge threats.

DSK would effortless blink the h3ll out of any army and most of them would be unable to scratch him, not only that, no one would risk to throw nukes into places that would cause entire cities to be destroyed in the process not that this matters as he could just dodge or kick the nuke away, several demons and dragon level threats in OPM would be God level threats by real life standards cuz several of them can put humanity into risk or pose a threat for them.

-Saitama is kind of dumb and took precautions, he looked stiff and uninterested till he looked at his environment and was like ''oh shit'' then jumped from Moon to Earth like it was nothing.

Nope, bring me evidence he can breath in space, if you do that I will believe you, till there he is not able to breath or survive in space for too long, he already raised up with his mouth filled meaning he already was without air, and him returning to the Earth like it was nothing has 0 things to do with him being able to live and stand there as much as he wants.

An average human would die instantly so he's at the very least able to stay in space for an undefined period of time.

Due the effects their bodies would have in space, Saitama can resist said effects but still is limited by his own biology a reason why he still buy his food and eat as well digest it, moot point is moot.

-So you think his body wouldn't be able to process anything he eats? He's able to punch away entire planets and survive a moon kick ffs, eating a sword wouldn't do anything to him.

  • Show me him punching planets in the canon manga
  • Moon kick is not a strength feat it was made pretty clear in the databook it works by charging one with Boros's energy aura that allows relativistic travel and throwing them away
  • He never ate a sword, so stop with reaching, you're reaching more and more.
  • Being able to punch planets and bust something doesn't mean your body is immune to effects one thing can cause if ingested.

-Ofc, breaking his limiter made him bald because it also stopped his cells from dying.

No, it just made him develop baldness, which brings zero proof of him being able to live without food and water.

-Hypocrisy at its finest

Imitation is the best form of flattering, copying my way to type now huh ?

look up the guides

  • >Dragon Level: Threat to multiple cities

  • > His attack can shave/ruin the Earth

the canon

  • Surface wiping, humanity would be able to survive in the end

  • Regarded as Dragon by author as well

what Boros himself says (and you used the same backwards logic with Toneri ROFLMAO)

Surface wiping(Wouldn't manage to bring extinction to the Earth) And looks like you missed, don't worry I'm a good gal, I can copy paste for you if you missed

  • > Confirmation from himself, narration and characters that he would throw the Moon on Earth and would destroy it causing humanity extinction and causing the very moon to be destroyed as well
  • > Effortless split a Moon without strain with a casual swing of his blade while causing both parts to split away from each other suggesting he overcame it's GBE
  • > Was planning to survive the Moon crash which the narration confirms Hamura's Tenseigan was able to do as it could protect the castle where him and Hinata would hide
  • > Confirmed once he attained the Tenseigan he didn't needed Hamura's tenseigan anymore and was still planning to make Hinata his bride once again meaning he was still planning to survive the Moon collision against the Earth
  • ''u WaNkIng tOneRi''

VS

  • Guy who said he would destroy the surface
  • Databook translations varying between shave, ruin and erase
  • Same databook regard him as Dragon, meaning he was in the end a threat to multiple cities and wasn't actually a threat to humanity supporting the one of the 2 initial translations were right
  • ONE has him as a Dragon level or above an average one meaning he still not a threat to humanity

even his nickname implies what he's capable of, and Toneri isn't planet level without TKing the moon which takes time, otherwise he's fodder.

You mean dominator of the universe ? Yeah no, it doesn't. And if Toneri is planet level by your own admission as you seems to be suggesting, his Tenseigan power was equal to that of Hamura that was going to protect the castle from the collision of both Planetoids, and all of his defenses including the very eye he was using were all overpowered by Naruto, what point you're even bringing, lol, u just turned this into a bigger mismatch by using your planet level Toneri logic.

His beam wasn't ''casual'' by any means, he was actively trying to kill Naruto

Toneri's feat was a casual feat, he literally just summoned and swing his blade into Naruto's face with a smile in his face unlike his posterior attempt, meaning he could have attacked with more power if he had put enough strength, casual or don't it's still above anything Boros displayed either way so oof.

so I'm gonna stop your wank right there, what would be the purpose to tank the collision when he could've flied away just before?

(And he could actually fly lol)

Not his plan, go read the novel and see the movie, Toneri wanted Hinata to be his bride, and start a new civilization on Earth as well rebuild the ecosystem with the animals he hide inside his castle, exposing your ignorance here only makes your credibility becomes 0, at this point you should arguing.

. Not to mention the moon is Naruto is at best semi-hollow with numerous layers on it so no, it's not identical to our real moon.

Is the same thing as our moon, it only has a hollow portion, still best than anything Boros displayed even assume a hollow moon, slice a hollow moon > fodder Large city levels attacks.

I don't think Toneri is a moon buster either I reviewed his calcs and at best they put him at large country to multi continental.

Don't care, and by calcs, Toneri is ranked higher than Boros either way.

Your whole argument is based off the fact that he's Dragon+ which doesn't even make sense, you are either Dragon/God or you aren't

Yep, cuz Dragon level threats can be superior in power to other dragon level threats as Goketsu and Orochi proved, Homeless Emperor and Black Sperm together are said by Psykos to be able to kill anyone even after seeing Tatsumaki's power and she was superior to even Dragon level threats like EC as she considered her powers to be above that of Tatsumaki had displayed so far and what she displayed was said to be able to pose a threat and beat EC, conclusion you can be higher than your average Dragon and not being God level, neither ONE and the databook consider Boros god level.

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They still Dragon Level, despite being equal and referred as being in the same rank as those classified as such, that's where the term dragon +/high dragon came from. They are above Dragon level, but not God.

there should be no such thing as Dragon+ other than to hype up the next villain (most likely God himself from the manga/webcomic or even Blast), nobody in the association even knew Boros existed or what he's capable of, he literally fought with the only person able to fodderize him atm, none of the S-Class heroes besides maybe Blast would have been able to stop the CSRC which would mean human extinction other than Saitama.

This kind of thing only proves you didn't read your opponent's argument you just read a part and jumped to conclusions although I'm not surprised. No one cares if the association knew about Boros, ONE and the Encyclopedia knew, none of them ranks him as God, meaning he can't threat humanity, this is official information that comes from the very author so your reaching is nothing more than your opinion so it has no relevance to me

-Multiple guides state he's a surface wiper at the very least

Just one canon guide says this, same guide says he is Dragon level meaning he couldn't threat humanity in any way

planetary at average

Not even close lmao, there's no canon guide confirming it

and Star level at max.

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星を消し飛ばすほどの威力を誇るボロスの究極技「崩星咆哮砲」に対抗するべく、サイタマが繰り出したのは「マジ殴り」。これまで普通のパンチ一撃で決着をつけてきたサイタマだが、壮絶パトルについに切り札を出す!!

In order to counter Boros's ultimate technique "Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon", which is so powerful that it can destroy a planet, Saitama has launched "Serious Punch". Saitama has been settled with an ordinary punch blow until now, but finally the trump is put out to the magnificent battle!!

This databook is also not canon btw, and neither is consistent with Boros's power if was really ONE or Murata intention to indicate that he is a Star Buster he could have said

''I'll release all of my power and obliterate you with this technique powerful enough destroy a Star''

Saying he's dragon+ and that Saitama exists won't change what he's capable of.

True, not putting humanity into risk ;)

This is the most pathetic lowball I've seen in a while and that says something.

Sorry if I don't highball Boros :(

Even people like Orochi or GS are massively above multi city busters (and cities in OPM are usually large af since everyone is encased in a gigacontinent)

Orochi is above all in the MA naturally, Goketsu made that pretty clear, even Garou suggested that, OPM cities are not bigger than normal ones as proved in several occasions in the canon manga where even Mumen Rider can ride to one city to another as he did against the DSK, and Dragon level threats are not multi-city busters, they are regarded as dragon cuz their powers can pose threat to multiple cities.

U can notice that several of the mosquitoes come from behind the mountains meaning that they were within the 50 km control, Z-City is not bigger than this then
U can notice that several of the mosquitoes come from behind the mountains meaning that they were within the 50 km control, Z-City is not bigger than this then

The fan-fic about them being bigger than average cities comes from an out of context anime scene that is a filler and contradicts what's showed in the manga, we have no idea how big the cities are compared to each other, how far they are from each other, and using the same thing people use to justify country level cities from anime is debunked by the anime or either proves how small OPM's planet is

You can see OPM's Continent in there and City A's destruction compared to it
You can see OPM's Continent in there and City A's destruction compared to it
City A below Boros's ship, barely the same size of it.
City A below Boros's ship, barely the same size of it.

They are not large than average ones, is pretty obviously neither ONE or Murata drew them with the intention of them being countries or bigger than large cities, they are just cities, that's all, even the manga support this

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aka low dragons, you think Boros of all people wouldn't be able to end life?

Yep, wanna know why cuz the very creator disagrees with this, lmao.

Lmao, even his fodders servants were dragon level.

Non-sense, it was made pretty clear the dragon level threats are the executive ones who were ranked higher than the other monsters, and there are monsters within the association that had the potential to beat Orochi, Phoenixman pre-retcon and Black Sperm being one of them

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-Does my argument look like cringe to you? Good to know tbh, I'll keep replying

Doubt considering that tag users with the intention to bait them can cause bans, as well the facts this thread is a mismatch in favor of Jigen.

@emperorthanos- Mismatch and already done before.

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@manofthunderbolts65: Dont wanna butt in, but JOVIOLMA is completely correct regarding the disaster level system in OPM.

For example, we have low demons, mid demons, and high demons, but also above demon or demon + which is considered significantly stronger than other demons but still not quite dragon. This is based on statements from ONE (with his low-mid-high quotes when describing their level) and the fandoms consensus.

Meaning Boros is significantly stronger than other Dragons, but not quite God level unless ONE changes this at some point.

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-nice you took the b8 ;)

Tag users with the intention to bait them is also against the rules and can result in ban so you should as well rephrase that.
Tag users with the intention to bait them is also against the rules and can result in ban so you should as well rephrase that.

-Again? His attack was PLANET BUSTING according to yusuke murata the life wipe comes from a mistranslation.

Specifically a japanese word that means erase/shave depending on context.The context here is a bit ambiguos tho so it can be taken either way. “Shave the planet” or life wipe/surface wipe is what many translators went with but “erase the planet” or planet bust was the intended meaning according to the author.

Canon manga, no evidence of planet busting other than Boros statement in the anime.
Canon manga, no evidence of planet busting other than Boros statement in the anime.
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災害レベル: 竜 = Disaster level : Dragon
災害レベル: 竜 = Disaster level : Dragon
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In the bottom left corner it says:

"Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon: Ruin/Erase/Shave the Earth. The roar of despair!!

The Kanji Means shave or erase the Earth, not necessarily means that the Planet will be destroyed, and the fact that he is listed as a Dragon Level Threat, only proves the point that he can't destroy the Earth, let alone one Star.

削る- remove something from the surface(Not Planet Busting)-Shave something

破滅- ruin; destruction; fall​, The fact that Boros is a DL Threat supports the notion that the correct statement is Ruin, that means, Ruins the Earth, he is not Planetary and not even the very author agrees with this notion

https://jisho.org/search/%E7%A0%B4%E6%BB%85

The fact that Boros needed to release all of his energy to even destroy the Surface and by the fact ONE ranks him as a Dragon level threat so does the databook means he is unable to blow up the planet or is anywhere close to Planetary, debunked and moot point. You didn't even bothered search or reaching that much, Murata is not the author neither said anything of that sort.

You don't know what hype and narrative techniques are don't you?

You don't know what evidence is do you ? I already brought the evidence that debunks the notion of him being god level, the author, the very databook confirming his threat level, bring something other than your opinion.

He wants to hype up the next big bad because he knows Boros is fodder to Saitama and it would ruin the prophecy.

There's no thing such as this, stop creating excuses thinking you prove a point, is in fact a poor interpretation and excuse, the prophecy is that Earth was in danger in the next months, Boros was not that threat, and regarding the prophecy when it comes to him, he made very clear the prophecy he received on his own planet was not reliable and we know pretty well based on webcomic and manga indication that said threat for Earth is going to be GOD, not Boros, weak sauce excuse.

Every guide ever made state he's at the very damn least able to destroy the surface, you denying this to wank the Naruto side is unbelievable.

Ruin the Earth, as well being unable to put humanity into danger ;) and you reaching more and more is also unbelievable considering that the only character I brought was no one but Toneri and what I mentioned wasn't disagreed by the Author, lol, seems like you're the one highballing someone here my dear friend while saying some weak sauce stuff, bringing excuses and failing miserable in prove a point.

-Humanity includes Saitama, which is why he isn't God level, as simple as that.

Saitama would die by lack of food and water,bring me canon feats proving he can live without both or move on.

He would be god by irl standards and that is a fact.

DSK would be a God level threat, lmao.

Just because there is someone more massively powerful than he is who won't die by CSRC doesn't mean he can't lol.

No one is talking about this, he still not God level though ONE and databook > your opinion. Now bring me feats or evidence Saitama can survive without eating.

-DSK being God? That is just, wrong. He doesn't have the means to end all of life in a whim like Boros and biological weapons/nukes still exist, he cannot survive a tsar bomba, you heavily underestimate irl Earth's arsenal when it comes to huge threats.

DSK would effortless blink the h3ll out of any army and most of them would be unable to scratch him, not only that, no one would risk to throw nukes into places that would cause entire cities to be destroyed in the process not that this matters as he could just dodge or kick the nuke away, several demons and dragon level threats in OPM would be God level threats by real life standards cuz several of them can put humanity into risk or pose a threat for them.

-Saitama is kind of dumb and took precautions, he looked stiff and uninterested till he looked at his environment and was like ''oh shit'' then jumped from Moon to Earth like it was nothing.

Nope, bring me evidence he can breath in space, if you do that I will believe you, till there he is not able to breath or survive in space for too long, he already raised up with his mouth filled meaning he already was without air, and him returning to the Earth like it was nothing has 0 things to do with him being able to live and stand there as much as he wants.

An average human would die instantly so he's at the very least able to stay in space for an undefined period of time.

Due the effects their bodies would have in space, Saitama can resist said effects but still is limited by his own biology a reason why he still buy his food and eat as well digest it, moot point is moot.

-So you think his body wouldn't be able to process anything he eats? He's able to punch away entire planets and survive a moon kick ffs, eating a sword wouldn't do anything to him.

  • Show me him punching planets in the canon manga
  • Moon kick is not a strength feat it was made pretty clear in the databook it works by charging one with Boros's energy aura that allows relativistic travel and throwing them away
  • He never ate a sword, so stop with reaching, you're sounding more and more cringe.
  • Being able to punch planets and bust something doesn't mean your body is immune to effects one thing can cause if ingested.

-Ofc, breaking his limiter made him bald because it also stopped his cells from dying.

No, it just made him develop baldness, which brings zero proof of him being able to live without food and water.

-Hypocrisy at its finest

Imitation is the best form of flattering, copying my way to type now huh ?

look up the guides

  • >Dragon Level: Threat to multiple cities

  • > His attack can shave/ruin the Earth

the canon

  • Surface wiping, humanity would be able to survive in the end

  • Regarded as Dragon by author as well

what Boros himself says (and you used the same backwards logic with Toneri ROFLMAO)

Surface wiping(Wouldn't manage to bring extinction to the Earth) And looks like you missed, don't worry I'm a good gal, I can copy paste for you if you missed

  • > Confirmation from himself, narration and characters that he would throw the Moon on Earth and would destroy it causing humanity extinction and causing the very moon to be destroyed as well
  • > Effortless split a Moon without strain with a casual swing of his blade while causing both parts to split away from each other suggesting he overcame it's GBE
  • > Was planning to survive the Moon crash which the narration confirms Hamura's Tenseigan was able to do as it could protect the castle where him and Hinata would hide
  • > Confirmed once he attained the Tenseigan he didn't needed Hamura's tenseigan anymore and was still planning to make Hinata his bride once again meaning he was still planning to survive the Moon collision against the Earth
  • ''u WaNkIng tOneRi''

VS

  • Guy who said he would destroy the surface
  • Databook translations varying between shave, ruin and erase
  • Same databook regard him as Dragon, meaning he was in the end a threat to multiple cities and wasn't actually a threat to humanity supporting the one of the 2 initial translations were right
  • ONE has him as a Dragon level or above an average one meaning he still not a threat to humanity

even his nickname implies what he's capable of, and Toneri isn't planet level without TKing the moon which takes time, otherwise he's fodder.

You mean dominator of the universe ? Yeah no, it doesn't. And if Toneri is planet level by your own admission as you seems to be suggesting, his Tenseigan power was equal to that of Hamura that was going to protect the castle from the collision of both Planetoids, and all of his defenses including the very eye he was using were all overpowered by Naruto, what point you're even bringing, lol, u just turned this into a bigger mismatch by using your planet level Toneri logic.

His beam wasn't ''casual'' by any means, he was actively trying to kill Naruto

Toneri's feat was a casual feat, he literally just summoned and swing his blade into Naruto's face with a smile in his face unlike his posterior attempt, meaning he could have attacked with more power if he had put enough strength, casual or don't it's still above anything Boros displayed either way so oof.

so I'm gonna stop your wank right there, what would be the purpose to tank the collision when he could've flied away just before?

(And he could actually fly lol)

Not his plan, go read the novel and see the movie, Toneri wanted Hinata to be his bride, and start a new civilization on Earth as well rebuild the ecosystem with the animals he hide inside his castle, exposing your ignorance here only makes your credibility becomes 0, at this point you should arguing.

. Not to mention the moon is Naruto is at best semi-hollow with numerous layers on it so no, it's not identical to our real moon.

Is the same thing as our moon, it only has a hollow portion, still best than anything Boros displayed even assume a hollow moon, slice a hollow moon > fodder Large city levels attacks.

I don't think Toneri is a moon buster either I reviewed his calcs and at best they put him at large country to multi continental.

Don't care, and by calcs, Toneri is ranked higher than Boros either way.

Your whole argument is based off the fact that he's Dragon+ which doesn't even make sense, you are either Dragon/God or you aren't

Yep, cuz Dragon level threats can be superior in power to other dragon level threats as Goketsu and Orochi proved, Homeless Emperor and Black Sperm together are said by Psykos to be able to kill anyone even after seeing Tatsumaki's power and she was superior to even Dragon level threats like EC as she considered her powers to be above that of Tatsumaki had displayed so far and what she displayed was said to be able to pose a threat and beat EC, conclusion you can be higher than your average Dragon and not being God level, neither ONE and the databook consider Boros god level.

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They still Dragon Level, despite being equal and referred as being in the same rank as those classified as such, that's where the term dragon +/high dragon came from. They are above Dragon level, but not God.

there should be no such thing as Dragon+ other than to hype up the next villain (most likely God himself from the manga/webcomic or even Blast), nobody in the association even knew Boros existed or what he's capable of, he literally fought with the only person able to fodderize him atm, none of the S-Class heroes besides maybe Blast would have been able to stop the CSRC which would mean human extinction other than Saitama.

This kind of thing only proves you didn't read your opponent's argument you just read a part and jumped to conclusions although I'm not surprised. No one cares if the association knew about Boros, ONE and the Encyclopedia knew, none of them ranks him as God, meaning he can't threat humanity, this is official information that comes from the very author so your reaching is nothing more than your opinion so it has no relevance to me

-Multiple guides state he's a surface wiper at the very least

Just one canon guide says this, same guide says he is Dragon level meaning he couldn't threat humanity in any way

planetary at average

Not even close lmao, there's no canon guide confirming it

and Star level at max.

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星を消し飛ばすほどの威力を誇るボロスの究極技「崩星咆哮砲」に対抗するべく、サイタマが繰り出したのは「マジ殴り」。これまで普通のパンチ一撃で決着をつけてきたサイタマだが、壮絶パトルについに切り札を出す!!

In order to counter Boros's ultimate technique "Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon", which is so powerful that it can destroy a planet, Saitama has launched "Serious Punch". Saitama has been settled with an ordinary punch blow until now, but finally the trump is put out to the magnificent battle!!

This databook is also not canon btw, and neither is consistent with Boros's power if was really ONE or Murata intention to indicate that he is a Star Buster he could have said

''I'll release all of my power and obliterate you with this technique powerful enough destroy a Star''

Saying he's dragon+ and that Saitama exists won't change what he's capable of.

True, not putting humanity into risk ;)

This is the most pathetic lowball I've seen in a while and that says something.

Sorry if I don't highball Boros :(

Even people like Orochi or GS are massively above multi city busters (and cities in OPM are usually large af since everyone is encased in a gigacontinent)

Orochi is above all in the MA naturally, Goketsu made that pretty clear, even Garou suggested that, OPM cities are not bigger than normal ones as proved in several occasions in the canon manga where even Mumen Rider can ride to one city to another as he did against the DSK, and Dragon level threats are not multi-city busters, they are regarded as dragon cuz their powers can pose threat to multiple cities.

U can notice that several of the mosquitoes come from behind the mountains meaning that they were within the 50 km control, Z-City is not bigger than this then
U can notice that several of the mosquitoes come from behind the mountains meaning that they were within the 50 km control, Z-City is not bigger than this then

aka low dragons, you think Boros of all people wouldn't be able to end life?

Yep, wanna know why cuz the very creator disagrees with this, lmao.

Lmao, even his fodders servants were dragon level.

Non-sense, it was made pretty clear the dragon level threats are the executive ones who were ranked higher than the other monsters, and there are monsters within the association that had the potential to beat Orochi, Phoenixman pre-retcon and Black Sperm being one of them

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-Does my argument look like cringe to you? Good to know tbh, I'll keep replying

Doubt considering that tag users with the intention to bait them can cause bans, as well the facts this thread is a mismatch in favor of Jigen.

@emperorthanos- Mismatch and already done before.

I'm gonna be honest with you but I don't like essay wars, imma keep it short

-Again with the Dragon+ thing, he's the only one to have been stated to be on that rank so far in the series, not even the incredibly op Monster Garou or Orochi/Golden Sperm which are waaaay above your regular dragon, yet Boros is still above them. It doesn't change the fact that he's able to at the very lowest of lowballs able to surface wipe, yet you somehow made a way to use your mental gymnastics and make him multi city level like all other fodder dragons are by saying he cannot wipe out humanity lol. That's just a denotation to not outright say he's God but close to it or on that level with CSRC, thing is he wastes all of his energy with that attack and would be left floating in space till he recovers or even die from exhaustion which is another reason why he isn't outright God level, the other being that Saitama exists and can roflstomp him on his best day so humanity won't go extinct, is that far too complex to comprehend? Hype is a common resource used by various authors and Dragon+ is just ONE's own way to say he's God level but at the same time he isn't just to hype up the next villain, I've said this like a bazillion times already, and those kanjis are up to interpretation, Earth = Planet, the manga and webcomic scans are just translations. Thing with Boros is that people always try to lowball him to oblivion, about Saitama he didn't even kill Boros and neg CSRC with the serious punch, he did it with his air pressure, Boros even said he was holding back, the God level threat is most likely going to be Saitama's equal, are you seriously trying to argue Saitama isn't planet level or above? LOL, he just lacks the feats, but that's because he hasn't faced off against anyone as strong as him yet.

-You just confirmed it yourself, if ONE did indeed say Boros was God level fans would just stupidly assume he is the threat Shibabawa was talking about, along with the fact that he immediately arrived just after the prophecy was told to the heroes it's safe to assume many would fall for that believe it or not. That spot is only being reserved for the final villain of the series whom will be Saitama's equal or above, if he was indeed just Dragon the ONE wouldn't bother with putting that + at the end, suspicious don't you think?

-You think the association wouldn't need Blast to finish him off? Boros is stronger than the whole S-Class combined and can at least destroy the crust, I don't see how that wouldn't receive a God level threat classification by the HS, the Dragon+ thing is nonsense when he's clearly capable of being a threat to humanity as a whole bar Saitama or Blast (who will only appear when humanity is in trouble aka Boros or any God level threat that nobody else will be able to stand up against) and no one has been given that rank besides him, there's no reason to rank him as Dragon+ other than to hype up the next villain.

-Even if the DSK thing was true he wouldn't be able to destroy the Earth or the crust instantly, he'd at best do it over time,which seems to be the route OPM is taking rn. Boros' CSRC is his last resort move after entering a very taxing form which should explain by itself why he isn't outright God level when he can't just do it casually or without repercussions to himself. About the Dragon thing you have EC who's undoubtly a being capable of destroying multiple cities, yet a lot of monsters are above him so that rank is pretty much consistent with the feats.

Nice how you took the time to tag a mod to try to win the argument in some shape or form, did my comment trigger you that much? Try to chill a bit sometime

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Jigen still gets stomped lol

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@manofthunderbolts65: Dont wanna butt in, but JOVIOLMA is completely correct regarding the disaster level system in OPM.

For example, we have low demons, mid demons, and high demons, but also above demon or demon + which is considered significantly stronger than other demons but still not quite dragon. This is based on statements from ONE (with his low-mid-high quotes when describing their level) and the fandoms consensus.

Meaning Boros is significantly stronger than other Dragons, but not quite God level unless ONE changes this at some point.

I've never seen any foe classified as Demon+, care to share if you have one ofc. Boros is literally the only one to be given that rank while we have ultra strong people like Garou or the other MA monsters.

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@manofthunderbolts65: Sure! They're not classified as that within the series (The increased use of low-mid-high is within the series itself is also relatively new), but the series also states with its ranking system (in-verse) that S-Class heroes should be able to singel-handily take down Demon level threats.

Therefore, Demon level monsters that beat S-Class heroes is generally considered high or above demon. Demon + is just another way to say above demon. This would include characters like Mosquito girl, hydrated DSK and Transformed Bug God. There is likely more, but those come to mind.

Also, its important to recognize the difference between what happens in the series and how we interpret and evaluate it as readers. For example, the disaster levels given by the association could be completely wrong or misguided based on misunderstandings or exaggeration. This is also another reason why ONE calling Boros Above Dragon is more significant, as its not a rating/ranking provided by the association.

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@manofthunderbolts65: Sure! They're not classified as that within the series (The increased use of low-mid-high is within the series itself is also relatively new), but the series also states with its ranking system (in-verse) that S-Class heroes should be able to singel-handily take down Demon level threats.

Therefore, Demon level monsters that beat S-Class heroes is generally considered high or above demon. Demon + is just another way to say above demon. This would include characters like Mosquito girl, hydrated DSK and Transformed Bug God.

Also, its important to recognize the difference between what happens in the series and how we interpret and evaluate it as readers. For example, the disaster levels given by the association could be completely off based on misunderstandings or exaggeration. This is also another reason why ONE calling Boros Above Dragon is more significant, as its not a rating/ranking provided by the association.

If there isn't an official classification for Demon+, then it doesn't exist dude, as simple as that. Same with Dragon+, it's just ONE's way to say he is, but actually isn't a God level threat due to his unability to do anything to Saitama who's also a part of humanity itself, and I think it's pretty much obvious at this point that Blast is at his level or a little below (hence why he's been hyped and stated to only take action when a God level threat rises, and Saitama should be God level himself).

It's weird when you consider that Boros is the only one to be officially given the Dragon+ rank when everyone including Garou doesn't, and coincidentally he's the only one who has ever been shown to have a move able to blow away the Earth (or the surface if you want to lowball) other than Saitama, nobody but Blast would have been able to take him down in the HS, not to mention the latterusually only acts when humanity is in trouble which would in turn mean Boros is God level or a little below, being Dragon+ doesn't somehow automatically mean that his feats are non existent which is what the guy above seemingly wanted to prove.

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-Again with the Dragon+ thing, he's the only one to have been stated to be on that rank so far in the series, not even the incredibly op Monster Garou or Orochi/Golden Sperm which are waaaay above your regular dragon, yet Boros is still above them.

You have zero proof for this, Boros lacks the feats to stomp monster Garou, in fact it would be the other way around as it was confirmed Garou would have the advantage over Boros and would stomp him in CQC in his monster form, and you have zero evidence someone like MB Boros or even FF Boros is anyway close to the ones like Orochi in power for all that matter with the exception of his last resort that requires the entirety of his energy, and would even be unable to threat humanity

It doesn't change the fact that he's able to at the very lowest of lowballs able to surface wipe, yet you somehow made a way to use your mental gymnastics and make him multi city level like all other fodder dragons are by saying he cannot wipe out humanity lol

Mental Gymnastics= Author's word, feats and the fact he is regarded as Dragon proves he is unable to put humanity in danger even with this. Go already and debunk it, with manga feats and scale you can prove, not your fan-fics and opinions, if you can do that I will concede if you can't don't bother waste my time with your theories

. That's just a denotation to not outright say he's God but close to it or on that level with CSRC

He is not, he is Dragon, as confirmed by ONE, moot point and case closed, no need to keep hammering an argument you can't even prove right and where even the very author disagrees with you, move on in this subject.

thing is he wastes all of his energy with that attack and would be left floating in space till he recovers or even die from exhaustion which is another reason why he isn't outright God level, the other being that Saitama exists and can roflstomp him on his best day so humanity won't go extinct, is that far too complex to comprehend?

The only complex thing here is your fan-fictions, you have zero proof Saitama would survive for massive periods in space, zero evidence he can even survive and lie there as much as he wishes and still fail to comprehend that if Humanity was not in danger by his CSRC even if he claimed he would ruin the planet, suggest that he is not God, Saitama punching the blast way doesn't change that cuz the profile is not taking Saitama's action against it into account. Boros would also not survive his own CSRC, his regeneration is depending on his energy which would be all fired while he is in the battlefield to ruin the planet and Saitama used a stronger move than the ones he displayed before to counter that, the fact that he needed that suggests that Boros's CSRC outclasses Saitama's normal punches that were literally punching through him and blowing him into pieces in the manga, he wouldn't manage to accelerate the healing process, he would not even have a healing process, nothing suggests he has the ability to breath in space, he would die in his own attack AFAIK and nothing contradicts it cuz it no point he planned to escape from that battle alive

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Hype is a common resource used by various authors and Dragon+ is just ONE's own way to say he's God level but at the same time he isn't just to hype up the next villai

Fan-fic again, bring something solid not your opinion and whining, I will stick with the author instead of your complains and fantheories ;) Same author that ranks him as Dragon and whowrote a databook confirming the same thing

災害レベル: 竜 = Disaster level : Dragon
災害レベル: 竜 = Disaster level : Dragon

, I've said this like a bazillion times already, and those kanjis are up to interpretation, Earth = Planet, the manga and webcomic scans are just translations.

No, you have reached a bazillion times, you brought nothing other than your opinions and meaningless words, keep up as well, no one is saying that Earth=Planet in any point for CSRC,are u losing track of the debate now ? The point is: CSRC was going to ruin the Earth, but the fact he is regarded as Dragon means that the attack wouldn't put humanity in a situation that would cause their extinction or would threat them, only that it would mess up the planet really bad, debunked and moot point is moot.

In the bottom left corner it says:

"Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon: Ruin/Erase/Shave the Earth. The roar of despair!!

The Kanji Means shave the Earth, not necessarily means that the Planet will be destroyed, and the fact that he is listed as a Dragon Level Threat, only proves the point that he can't destroy the Earth, let alone one Star.

削る- remove something from the surface(Not Planet Busting)-Shave something, strike it out

破滅- ruin; destruction; fall​, The fact that Boros is a DL Threat supports the notion that the correct statement is Ruin, that means, Ruins the Earth, he is not Planetary and not even the very author agrees with this notion

https://jisho.org/search/%E7%A0%B4%E6%BB%85

The fact that Boros needed to release all of his energy to even destroy the Surface and by the fact ONE ranks him as a Dragon level threat so does the databook means he is unable to blow up the planet or is anywhere close to Planetary, debunked and moot point, the fact u still think it has valuable show you are going to cover your eyes and ignore your opponent's argument to rely and keep holding in your fan-fictions

Thing with Boros is that people always try to lowball him to oblivion, about Saitama he didn't even kill Boros and neg CSRC with the serious punch, he did it with his air pressure, Boros even said he was holding back, the God level threat is most likely going to be Saitama's equal, are you seriously trying to argue Saitama isn't planet level or above?

Non sense, he punched through Boros's CSRC and hit BOROS with air pressure, he made contact with the beam directly and overpower it hitting the user with wind pressure, bring actually something factual not your own fan-fictions, hype and opinion, they are less than 0 zero to mean if you think they have relevance or any value in a debate you should probably giving up arguing here.

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LOL, he just lacks the feats, but that's because he hasn't faced off against anyone as strong as him yet.

So don't bother bring your theories and fan-fictions like facts, until they being proved otherwise they're your theories and have zero to this debate.

-You just confirmed it yourself, if ONE did indeed say Boros was God level fans would just stupidly assume he is the threat Shibabawa was talking about, along with the fact that he immediately arrived just after the prophecy was told to the heroes it's safe to assume many would fall for that believe it or not.

I never confirmed myself in anything, is lies your new argument now you are unable to prove your theories right ? Boros was never the prophecy and the whole thing with Boros was for fans to think he briefly was and then put the theory outside thinking it was never reliable in anyway as Boros also meet someone who told him about a prophecy only to be proved wrong, Boros is not God level, ONE doesn't agree with that notion and ranks him in both his words and the Databook as Dragon.

  • >Dragon Level: Threat to multiple cities

  • > His attack can shave/ruin the Earth

  • >Surface wiping, humanity would be able to survive in the end

  • >Regarded as Dragon by author as well

That spot is only being reserved for the final villain of the series whom will be Saitama's equal or above, if he was indeed just Dragon the ONE wouldn't bother with putting that + at the end, suspicious don't you think?

Your fan-fictions and theories, they don't value to me, please stop acting like they have any meaning here, and everyone at this point pretty much knows who the final villain is going to be and even Murata commented into this giving his own vision and theories on how the finale after the fight is going to be, he simple said is not canon cuz he a ONE haven't discussed this yet, at this point everyone who reads the manga and saw the interviews and the webcomic(None of them are secrets or anything of that sort) knows GOD will be the final villain. Regardless I don't care if the next villain is going to be a god level threat, cuz if he is going to be, is another proof Boros himself isn't, which ONE pretty much agrees with.

-You think the association wouldn't need Blast to finish him off?

They would not, if Boros was a threat to the planet or either his crew, Blast would have attacked or made something, he is not, ONE and the Databook disagree with you, stop trying to pass down your theories and fan-fictions like I care for them or as if they have more value than what the guy who created the character said, and First Form Boros have no feats other than destroy parts of his ship and fodder feat that even Tatsumaki could replicate, Orochi dragon beam cannon caused a ripple in a city with shockwave alone this far outclasses Boros city level explosion.

Boros is stronger than the whole S-Class combined and can at least destroy the crust, I don't see how that wouldn't receive a God level threat classification by the HS, the Dragon+ thing is nonsense when he's clearly capable of being a threat to humanity as a whole bar Saitama or Blast (who will only appear when humanity is in trouble aka Boros or any God level threat that nobody else will be able to stand up against)

Fan-fictions and headcanons again, he is not a god level threat cuz he can't put humanity in danger, he can be defeated and his CSRC wouldn't manage to destroy humanity or put them into danger, it would only ruin the planet, and he is not stronger than the S-Class combined, large city feats are fodder and Tatsumaki's power are above this, he would only manage to beat them with his last resort and Tatsumaki could pretty much kill him before he even enter MB form.

and no one has been given that rank besides him, there's no reason to rank him as Dragon+ other than to hype up the next villain.

There is, he is put there to make clear he is unable to put humanity into risk, sorry but fodder Boros is fodder no need to keep reaching in this topic, move on.

-Even if the DSK thing was true he wouldn't be able to destroy the Earth or the crust instantly, he'd at best do it over time,which seems to be the route OPM is taking rn.

Don't care, didn't asked, didn't denied, he would put humanity into risk is a danger to the planet, conclusion he is level god which is the requisite to reach this level, not how instantly you can blow up something.

Boros' CSRC is his last resort move after entering a very taxing form which should explain by itself why he isn't outright God level when he can't just do it casually or without repercussions to himself.

You going to try to pass off this weak sauce excuse again ? I don't care if it's casual or if it's his last resort or if his strongest attack, the fact that according to you he can destroy the planet would mean he can put humanity into risk which he can't, this means he is level God level regardless, the speed you blow up something or if your last technique is what ranks in a certain level doesn't change that, because the disaster levels don't work by how casual your feats are but the amount of disaster you can cause.

Weird, I see no mentions of casual feats here, only what you need to threat to be regarded as one of the listed.
Weird, I see no mentions of casual feats here, only what you need to threat to be regarded as one of the listed.
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About the Dragon thing you have EC who's undoubtly a being capable of destroying multiple cities, yet a lot of monsters are above him so that rank is pretty much consistent with the feats.

No one denied this, only proving further your ignorance and that you can't even read your opponent's arguments and rebuttals, seems like you lost a long time ago and is unable to admit, and EC needs time to destroy multiple cities as proved in the fight against MB and MK that took chapters and barely one city was destroyed.

Nice how you took the time to tag a mod to try to win the argument in some shape or form

It actually didn't took any time at all, only 3 secs at best, not that I need to tag any mod to win against you since only point out your flaws in arguments and how you use fan-fics and theories instead of feats/scale I would assume one doesn't need that much to win a debate against you, in fact you helping me pretty much in increase my post numbers.

did my comment trigger you that much? Try to chill a bit sometime

No offense, but you seems the one triggered considering the nature of your commentaries, your ''baits''(actually angered comments that you try to disguise by using this word) and the fact you think your opinion and fan-theories carry value to me or for this debate. I'm also chilled, not sure what makes you think I'm angered ;)

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And he still thinks his theories are feats or proof of something