jesse custer vs spiderman (with a twist)

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#1  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000

this is pre-brand new day before mephisto came to peter about his deal, jesse comes in and sees spiderman with mary jane (this is just after jesse thinks tulip and cass are together) and orders spiderman to kill mary jane, spiderman has shown a unbreakable will in the past, will he do it or can he fight the word somehow?

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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Spider-man would kill MJ.
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#3  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Morpheus_ said:
"Spider-man would kill MJ.
"

don't think peter could somehow overcome the word
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#4  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Spider-man would kill MJ.
"
don't think peter could somehow overcome the word "
Not really.
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#5  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Morpheus_ said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Spider-man would kill MJ.
"
don't think peter could somehow overcome the word "
Not really."

idk man, peter has got some great willpower and has overcome things beyond his own thought. ya never know with him, add in this is MJ we are talking about
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#6  Edited By geraldthesloth
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Spider-man would kill MJ.
"
don't think peter could somehow overcome the word "
Not really."
idk man, peter has got some great willpower and has overcome things beyond his own thought. ya never know with him, add in this is MJ we are talking about "
But it's straight from god.
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#7  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@geraldthesloth said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
"Spider-man would kill MJ.
"
don't think peter could somehow overcome the word "
Not really."
idk man, peter has got some great willpower and has overcome things beyond his own thought. ya never know with him, add in this is MJ we are talking about "
But it's straight from god."

pre-con beyonder was shown that marvel had a right to live when he saw peter.
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#8  Edited By Chaos Prime

Pete will kill her without even knowing wot hes done till its too late.Just like the guy that stuck his ~##* up his '#~¬ ;-)

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#9  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Chaos Prime said:
"Pete will kill her without even knowing wot hes done till its too late.Just like the guy that stuck his ~##* up his '#~¬ ;-)"

ahh come on the sherif can not come close to to peter in the will department.
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#10  Edited By Chaos Prime

Will power or not it takes alot to cut your own private parts & stick em where the sun dont shine ;-) but yes i do get your point but i still think Spideys will-power wont be strong enough in this scenario.

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#11  Edited By inferiorego  Staff

Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower

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#12  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Chaos Prime said:
"Will power or not it takes alot to cut your own private parts & stick em where the sun dont shine ;-) but yes i do get your point but i still think Spideys will-power wont be strong enough in this scenario."

i really don't know man, we have seen peter do some great things just by thinking he can and when someone is in danger ect ect, i think he could maybe
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#13  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@inferiorego said:
"Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower "

ya really think so? spidy has shown so very good willpower in the past, and MJs life is on the line here
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#14  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower "
ya really think so? spidy has shown so very good willpower in the past, and MJs life is on the line here "
doesn't matter. this really is a no contest area. When Jesse slips into that voice, you do what he says, no matter what.
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#15  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower "
ya really think so? spidy has shown so very good willpower in the past, and MJs life is on the line here "
doesn't matter. this really is a no contest area. When Jesse slips into that voice, you do what he says, no matter what. "
hmm yea true, but no one in the preacher comics had the will that peter does.
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#16  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower "
ya really think so? spidy has shown so very good willpower in the past, and MJs life is on the line here "
doesn't matter. this really is a no contest area. When Jesse slips into that voice, you do what he says, no matter what. "
hmm yea true, but no one in the preacher comics had the will that peter does. "
Saint of Killers.
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#17  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower "
ya really think so? spidy has shown so very good willpower in the past, and MJs life is on the line here "
doesn't matter. this really is a no contest area. When Jesse slips into that voice, you do what he says, no matter what. "
hmm yea true, but no one in the preacher comics had the will that peter does. "
Saint of Killers. "

saint of killers is more pure anger and hate then willpower.
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#18  Edited By inferiorego  Staff
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower "
ya really think so? spidy has shown so very good willpower in the past, and MJs life is on the line here "
doesn't matter. this really is a no contest area. When Jesse slips into that voice, you do what he says, no matter what. "
hmm yea true, but no one in the preacher comics had the will that peter does. "
Saint of Killers. "
saint of killers is more pure anger and hate then willpower. "
this isn't a green lantern book.
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#19  Edited By inferiorego  Staff

When it comes down to it, you can't really change someone's stance on this. Facts are facts in this situation no matter the willpower of the character.

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#20  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @inferiorego said:
"Word of God (in the Preacher book)>Spidey's willpower "
ya really think so? spidy has shown so very good willpower in the past, and MJs life is on the line here "
doesn't matter. this really is a no contest area. When Jesse slips into that voice, you do what he says, no matter what. "
hmm yea true, but no one in the preacher comics had the will that peter does. "
Saint of Killers. "
saint of killers is more pure anger and hate then willpower. "
this isn't a green lantern book. "
XD sorry if it's coming off like that, but it's true that saint is more of ''i hate you so i am going to kill you'' deal willpower with peter is more no matter what it costs him he will do what it takes to save the life of someone he loves ect ect, off topic just watched the green lantern movie, twas great
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#21  Edited By King_Saturn
Spidey kills MJ
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#22  Edited By DaMainMan

Spiderman would kill the fine red head. Jesse's power trumps anyones will power. And btw Saint was more than rage and hate, he had a will so strong that he was the only one to hang on to everything about himself when he died and went to hell. No other mortal had done that.

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#23  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@DaMainMan said:
"Spiderman would kill the fine red head. Jesse's power trumps anyones will power. And btw Saint was more than rage and hate, he had a will so strong that he was the only one to hang on to everything about himself when he died and went to hell. No other mortal had done that.

again more rage and hate the will, his hate is what let him do that
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#24  Edited By Hellos

Well is Jesse in the Marvel Universe or Jesse's.

I personally don't think the One-Above-All wants one of his favorites kill the person he loves :P
God actually made the effort to give Pete advise to stop him from making the deal with Mephisto in the first place.

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#25  Edited By bradlikesunity
@DC_Marvel_1000: I really like this thread, from a dogmatic perspective obviously spider man looses, but that relationship is at the core of the marvel universe, no way spidey does, my heart says otherwise
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#26  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@bradlikesunity said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000: I really like this thread, from a dogmatic perspective obviously spider man looses, but that relationship is at the core of the marvel universe, no way spidey does, my heart says otherwise"

lol thanks
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#27  Edited By DaMainMan
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"@DaMainMan said:
"Spiderman would kill the fine red head. Jesse's power trumps anyones will power. And btw Saint was more than rage and hate, he had a will so strong that he was the only one to hang on to everything about himself when he died and went to hell. No other mortal had done that.
again more rage and hate the will, his hate is what let him do that "

It was shown that the Saint will was his own. The only one that could command him was God but Jesse's power superceded even that. The Saint could not be controlled in any fashion outside his own or those two divine powers. If that doesn't show willpower what does? MJ gets fragged by Spidey.