Jedi Survivor team vs Darth Sidious

Emperor himself

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Team

Versions at the time of Jedi Survivor

In character

Sidious. Too fast and lightning AOE can attack them all at once.

Sidious stomps them all casually

Throw in vader and sidious still wins

I’d argue that even ROTS Sheev would win, let alone a Sheev 10 years after.

I mean... maybe Dagan and Merrin can pull off some hax while the others serve as bricks?

Sidious stomps

^ This, Sidious fucking slaughters, he is an absurdly good duelist and unlike against Vader where cere used environment to hinder Vader though she still did well against pre injury Vader, Sidious is way too fast for such cheap tricks to work and may as well just absorb their powers.

Sideous wins

That was plot...Vader would have casually destroyed her with the Force 0 diff.

Just like Sidious would casually destroy these guys in the Force.

People have to remember what Dooku said to Yoda when they matched each other in the force Dooku argued the contest couldn't be Decided with their knowledge in the force and must be shown with their skills with a light saber.

If Vader isn't bloodlusted and plot is involved is when he start to duel with light sabers, but without Plot he Ragdolls them all with the force just like Sidious can do but slightly easier than Vader.

Sidious

@mygod000:

That was plot...Vader would have casually destroyed her with the Force 0 diff.

There is no basis for this.

Sidious >>> Vader > Cere.

He stomps.

Yeah in fallen order she could hold him off with the force as well, Vader would never be able to 0 diff her.

@shafamalam: in Fallen Order, she just dropped him to knee when she caught him of guard, he then casually got up and walked through her TK. He was very much able to no diff her there. Unless you count her shield blocking one strike form him as her giving him trouble, but:

1. His TK is stronger than his lightsaber strike

2. Vader was clearly toying with them both in Fallen Order

@normanale835:While post ROTS Sidious is> Vader, Vader was heavily weakened in that scan by his conflict after visiting Padme grave, to the point that Sidious had to crush him and bring him to Mustafar so that he can rebuild his lost power

Cere and Cal are nowhere close to Sidious Level

You're Right, It was just Exaggeration a little bit.

The Fact that Vader on paper is stated to be above EP 3 Anakin in the force who is peer equal to EP 3 Sidious...so be taken into consideration. That should be enough for him to destroy her in the force without little difficulty.

Yes, and Vader 5 mins off the Operating Table could Slam Sidious using the Force as well until he stopped using the force on him.

So I'm assuming that everyone who thinks that Sidious stomps this team also thinks that JS Sidious could murderstomp JS Vader with no difficulty at all? Because JS Vader would get destroyed by this team.

JS Sidious >>> JS team >>> JS Vader would be an... interesting take.

OT: Sidious in a great and extreme diff fight, simply because of Lightning. Without it he would very likely lose, too many strong duellists with very impressive force feats & hax.

I can't explain or fathom how much sidious curbstomps this team

So, just for clarification: you think that RotJ Luke could also solo this team with low to moderate difficulty, correct?

Sidious claps hard.

No-low difficulty

Papa palp

@peverell:

Either ROTJ Luke or Vader would destroy this team.

JS Vader is > Knightfall Vader.

@peverell: Luke would handwave them.

The ones who were shitting bricks when Vader appeared?

Sidious ends this with 1 saber throw and a force push these are fodder to him

@frozen said:

And this team is still > JS Vader and pretty decisively at that, considering Cere alone gave him some trouble. You're telling me that RotJ Vader is so far above his JS iteration that he could easily beat this team? Or that Luke could "destroy" a team that is vastly superior to individual RotS titans?

But the ridiculous OT-character scaling really isn't unusual on CV, so I shouldn't be surprised. And honestly, I really cba discussing this further anyway because it's just going to be a spam fest of circumstantial "evidence" quoted out of context, so I will leave it at that.

Are u new or have u just missed a lot? He's stated toying with cere in the first part of the fight. And yes Vader did grow massively in the 13 year time gap between js and rotj

Vader can't be used as an example here. Sidious has obvious hax like lightning that can take multiple of them at once or even just one shot them. Cere would last slightly longer due to her skill before getting easily overpowered. ROTJ Vader is so riciculously above his JS iteration version that I can't possibly explain in one comment. When you understand the nature of the Force Waves and see the buffs Vader got during the OT, you 'll realise it's not remotely close. An AOE attack from any of the ROTJ titans would immidiately evaporate the team.

@peverell:

And this team is still > JS Vader and pretty decisively at that, considering Cere alone gave him some trouble.

Developers said Vader was testing her and not going all out prior to archives falling on him. Prior to that, it was going like this:

You're telling me that RotJ Vader is so far above his JS iteration that he could easily beat this team?

Yes, ROTJ Vader can two to three shot JS Vader.

Or that Luke could "destroy" a team that is vastly superior to individual RotS titans?

Yes.

But the ridiculous OT-character scaling really isn't unusual on CV, so I shouldn't be surprised. And honestly, I really cba discussing this further anyway because it's just going to be a spam fest of circumstantial "evidence" quoted out of context, so I will leave it at that.

Vader scales close to force wave Sidious now. His feats also reflect this, e.g. flattening miles worth of Forrest with a force AoE.

Sheev shitstomps with a flick of the wrist.