Jean Grey vs. Exodus.

Who wins?
 
In this battle Jean Grey is at full power, but can not use the Phoenix Force. 
 
Exodus is also at full power; Exodus has a healing factor and is a psychic vampire, meaning that he can drain psychic energy to re-energize himself or boost his powers.

Huh?

I'll say Exodus. I think he's powerful enough to take out Jean.

" @Green Skin: I think so too. Especially since he is a psychic vampire and their telekinesis is almost equal. "

" At full power without the Phoenix, Jean can manipulate molecular structures, Exodus can't so their tk is not equal at full power and I thought his lifting weight was somewhere around 10 tons, hers is 50. "

" @Green Skin: I am pretty sure that Exodus can beat Stryfe too. Sorry for going off topic.           %Pr "

jean.

" @Son Of Storm said:

" @Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

" At full power without the Phoenix, Jean can manipulate molecular structures, Exodus can't so their tk is not equal at full power and I thought his lifting weight was somewhere around 10 tons, hers is 50. "

thought you said it was higher. "

That number was used in an issue so I like to use it, just didn't feel like doing the conversions because the planes and space stations she has lifted don't have a definite weight but we can surmise it's somewhere near the 300-450 tons mark as far as planes are concerned, it took all her focus to keep Avalon a float but like I said don't know how much it weighs, just wanted to throw out a number didn't matter if it was her max weight because it's still 5Xs higher than his. "

Ok.

"At full power without the Phoenix, Jean can manipulate molecular structures, Exodus can't so their tk is not equal at full power and I thought his lifting weight was somewhere around 10 tons, hers is 50. "

"@Stormcell said:

"@Phoenix of the Black Throne said:

"At full power without the Phoenix, Jean can manipulate molecular structures, Exodus can't so their tk is not equal at full power and I thought his lifting weight was somewhere around 10 tons, hers is 50. "

Actually, Exodus can manipulate matter at the atomic level which uppercuts molecular control. "

when? i was trying to find instances and couldn't "

No problem, Cracks.  
 
@Phoenix of the Black Throne:  
 
Where did it state that Jean had no TP when Stryfe beat her?


 

Boost.  

Jean Grey is a very underrated character. she is stated to be the most powerful psychic to ever exist in Marvel even tho this would include Jean as Phoenix

every cell in Jean's body was said to be a center of power (no Phoenix), can u imagine the raw power Jean possesses? in NEW X-MEN she was capable of accomplishing feats that's impossible even for omega level mutants as Xavier stated

there is no telepath in Marvel "aside from the Cosmic beings" more powerdul than Jean Grey. Exodus is very powerful but I would say that he is on the level of Xavier while Jean heavily exceeds that level.

psychic beings more powerful than Exodus would be Jean Grey, X-man, Cable, Stryfe, Rachel, Cassandra Nova etc.

@emmett_frost: Jean’s underrated? I’m genuinely confused at this statement.

Lol at Jean underrated

Lol so yea...I'm just here to say Jean > Exodus and that Exodus is no longer a psychic vampire.

@koays: so yeah, I'm just here to tell you that 9 years ago, jean<exodus without Phoenix, when exodus was a psychic vamp.

OT: time of OP, exodus.

Exodus stomps Jean easily unless she is boosted by the PF.

@god_spawn: yes she is underrated, Jean is an omega level mutant but need cerebro to scan or contact people, the statements that was said about Jean is million times beyond her feats.

Evil Beat stated that Jean goes beyond mutation into some other catogory that i don't yet have a name for, on the microscopic level, each of her body's cells is a ferment, a seperate center of power

In New X-men the Professor stated that what Jean did was impossible, even for an omega level mutant "accomplished a feat even an omega level mutant would have a hard time doing it, and she did this while having millions of virus bacteria eating her from the inside", in the next issue she is back to being useless.

The Phoenix Force stated that Jean as an unlimited power that she hasn't yet tapped, she was stated to be the all powerful psychics and all the young generations "Cuckoos generations" know her as the all powerful psychic Queen.

But her feats does not back her statements up. She needs help defeating Apocalypse, fighting Stryfe etc. The Jean Grey in the comics has yet to shown her true power

Smh emmett frost consistently being wrong.

Somethings never change

@emmett_frost: If her statements are far beyond her feats, then those statements are probably wrong. Especially when Jean hasn’t been holding back since the late 90s at this point.