Jean Grey VS Dazzler?

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#1  Edited By benjamin_kch
Jean Grey VS Dazzler 
Jean has no PF  or telepathy
No prep  
Bloodlust ( but not out for death just k.o.)
in NYC (lots of vibrations and noise for Dazzler, tons of objects)
Both 616 (except jean is alive) 
K.O. for win..... 
 
I think with the conditions both x-girls can be powerful so who gets  the win? 
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#2  Edited By Korg

Jean's TK makes this a complete mismatch.

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#3  Edited By dane

Jean, easily.

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#4  Edited By charlieboy

if jean has no tp. dazzler could win. she just has to dazzle her. jean can't block that with tk. really comes down to who attacks first.
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#5  Edited By IcePrince_X

Strong fight specially removing one of the most potent powers of Ms. Grey, but I still have my hopes that Jeanie came kept up a strong fight but yes, Dazzler may get to win this one.  
 
Unless Jean can alter the air molecules, creating a vaccum around Dazzler preventing her to use her powers, then Jean will reconfigure her anatomical structure to prevent Dazzler from using her powers.

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#6  Edited By charlieboy
@IcePrince_X:
jean cannot reconfigure someone's anatomical structure without the phoenix force.
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#7  Edited By IcePrince_X

In her highest form of telekinetic powers, I believe she can alter molecules. Thus, my analogy of anatomical restructuring.  
 
Also, even with TK she can affect the nervous system, like Psylocke's katanna that is tk based that can overload the body's system.

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#8  Edited By Korg
@charlieboy said:
" if jean has no tp. dazzler could win. she just has to dazzle her. jean can't block that with tk."
Yes, she can.
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#9  Edited By agent9149
@IcePrince_X:  isnt psylockes katana based on her psionic powers
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#10  Edited By charlieboy
@Korg:
how?
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#11  Edited By brharri

Jean wins eaisly

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#12  Edited By charlieboy
@IcePrince_X:
jean has never displayed molecular tk without the phoenix. and she has also never shocked someone's nervous system with tk.
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#13  Edited By Korg
@charlieboy said:
" @Korg: how? "
They are in the middle of a city. All Jean has to do is move something in front of her, and she doesn't have to worry about Dazzler at all. She can just charge forward and bury her with debris/cars/what have you.
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#14  Edited By charlieboy
@Korg:
so jean can move stuff faster than a light attack?
 
 

spider-man got caught by dazzler's powers. and he is a lot faster than jean reflex wise. . besides dazzler can make solid light shields to deflect anything jean throws at her. not to mention she could just blast it out of the way.
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#15  Edited By IcePrince_X

The TK powers of Psylocke is actually a gift of Jean Grey to her during the 6 month gap and there was a power switch. 

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#16  Edited By charlieboy
@IcePrince_X:
i am aware. but psylocke uses the power differently than jean. jean has never done that.
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#17  Edited By Korg
@charlieboy: Dazzler's reaction time is not light speed. I think you're also vastly overestimating Dazzler's defensive capabilities. Jean can tear the ground out from underneath Dazzler, and then bury her. Jean just massively outclasses Dazzler.
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#18  Edited By Mercy_
@agent9149 said:
" @IcePrince_X:  isnt psylockes katana based on her psionic powers "

Yes. 
 
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#19  Edited By charlieboy
@Korg:
dazzler has  limited flight capabilites due to fields kind of like sue. she used this ability in the dazzler oneshot. so having the ground torn up means nothing to her. and i never said that dazzler was faster than light. but her light attack would move faster than jean levitating something. jean does not have the fastest reaction time . like i said depends on who attacks first. if dazzler goes first jean is dazzled. if jean attacks first she is taken out by a tk bolt . could go either way. i have seen jean defeated by less powerful people.
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#20  Edited By Korg
@charlieboy said:
" so having the ground torn up means nothing to her"
Only if she's prepared for it, which there's no reason to think she would be. Dazzler doesn't fly on a regular basis. Even if Jean gets "dazzled", she can simply lash out in all directions with her TK, winning the fight while blinded.
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#21  Edited By charlieboy
@Korg:
a dazzle overloads the brain and causes unconsciousness. she would not be able to lash out.
 
 


 
 
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#22  Edited By karrob

Come on...Jean for the win

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#23  Edited By MKF30

Jean

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#24  Edited By OldIdiotAccount

Dazzler.

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#25  Edited By benjamin_kch

Thanks everyone, it seems like both girls are getting it here. I really would hope my girl jean would pull thru but idk i could see it going either way!!! 
 
 
Here is another thought give jean telepathy but take away telekiesis