Jean Grey runs an X-Verse telepathy gauntlet - how far does she get?

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Poll Jean Grey runs an X-Verse telepathy gauntlet - how far does she get? (34 votes)

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Stops at 5 3%
Stops at 6 3%
Stops at 7 18%
Stops at 8 6%
Stops at 9 9%
Clears 59%

How far does Jean make it in a purely telepathic gauntlet?

Everyone is bloodlusted and going all out

No Phoenix for anyone. No Prep. No Pink/Purple Mode

1) Stepford Cuckoos 3-in1

2) Quentin Quire

3) Psylocke

4) Rachel Grey

5) Emma Frost

6) Exodus

7) Cassandra Nova

8) Shadow King

9) Professor Xavier

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I will say clear, with a 50/50 chance that she loses among the last three.

The Cuckoos-Psylocke will be nothing. (Ignoring Betsy’s Psychic Blade)

Rachel will get a few good hits.

Emma will be difficult, but not impossible.

Exodus is overrated and nowhere near as hard as Emma.

Cassandra-Xavier will be where she has the hardest times. Cassandra is ruthless, Shadow King is cunning, and Xavier is the teacher. Needless to say, Jean can win, but there is always that chance that she makes a mistake and leaves herself open enough for the bottom three to wreck her.

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@pyrofn said:

I will say clear, with a 50/50 chance that she loses among the last three.

The Cuckoos-Psylocke will be nothing. (Igniting Psylockes Psychic Blade)

Rachel will get a few good hits.

Emma will be difficult, but not impossible.

Exodus is overrated and nowhere near as hard as Emma.

Cassandra-Xavier will be where she has the hardest times. Cassandra is ruthless, Shadow Ling is cunning, and Xavier is the teacher. Needless to say, Jean can win, but there is always that chance that she makes a mistake and leaves herself open enough for the bottom three to wreck her.

Basically this.

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I say 7. Although I think Jean would be able to handle Shadow king, I’m still on the fence on how she compares to Cassandra and Charles.

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Based on what I've seen, stops around about 7. Cassandra plays very dirty and unique in terms of telepathic battles and defence, and prefers to be sneaky in rather than go for a straight on battle, which throws a lot of telepaths off their game.

We've already seen her take out Emma by her unconscious defences alone, as well as a amped Xavier using Cerebra (which amps telepathy by ten times the usual strength, as stated by the Cuckoos themselves) so a default Jean would absolutely have a pretty rough time against her. She can maybe win a good minority, but not enough to confidently say she can pass Nova.

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Stops at 7. She couldn't defeat Nova without Cerebra in X-men Red

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@pyrofn said:

I will say clear, with a 50/50 chance that she loses among the last three.

The Cuckoos-Psylocke will be nothing. (Igniting Psylockes Psychic Blade)

Rachel will get a few good hits.

Emma will be difficult, but not impossible.

Exodus is overrated and nowhere near as hard as Emma.

Cassandra-Xavier will be where she has the hardest times. Cassandra is ruthless, Shadow Ling is cunning, and Xavier is the teacher. Needless to say, Jean can win, but there is always that chance that she makes a mistake and leaves herself open enough for the bottom three to wreck her.

All of this.

But she stops at 7.

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She Clears

Struggles with 7-9

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@marvelfan1992 She does get rest inbetween matches though right?

Because that makes this interesting

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@koays@pyrofn: tired Jean grey vs Emma. The dialogue between them would be hilarious. Imagine if tired Jean actually lost, she’d be hearing Emma’s gloating for the rest of her life.

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#12  Edited By Koays

@pyrofn: @elpendejo: lmao

*phone rings*

Jean- Hello?

Emma- You know what this tea reminds me of? That time I kicked your ass.

Jean- I was tired Emma, it doesnt count.

Emma- IwAsTiReDitdOeSntCoUnT! That's what you sound like....

Jean- You know we can go again when I'm well rested.

Emma- What, 13 years laying in a casket wasnt enough? You need more time?

Jean- I wasnt just laying in a casket!

Emma- I know, I'm just kidding!

Jean- Thank you!

Emma- I know you were busy with that big role on the Walking Dead. Lucky you zombies were all the rage after you died.

Jean- Ok Silicone Barbie! Let's go right now!

Emma- I dont know, I'm a little nervous. Putting my beautiful mind in front of an tired Zombie....especially one I already beat up...sounds dangerous.

Jean- I'm hanging up.

Emma- Wait wait wait! I have something important to say!

Jean- *sigh* What is it?

Emma- Ok, you need to listen closely though. LoserSaysWhat?

Jean- What?

Emma- Exactly! *hangs up*

*sips tea*

Emma- Phoebe, Celeste, Irma. Cancel my 2:30, I just thought of another zombie joke and I'm going to need to call her back.

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@koays: ROFL!

*rings*

Jean:...Just let it go to voicemail, Jean.....

Voicemail: Hey, this is Jean! I am not in at the moment, but leave a message and I will call you back as soon as I can. *beep*

Emma: Oh, the poor dear must still be tired. Perhaps I can send her a new casket. I hear they have a sale for slaughtered beef by Diamond hands-“

Jean: What is it now, Emma?!!!

Emma: Oh, touchy. Since I have your attention, I’d like to give you some tips on how to use your telepathic powers properly. Listen closely because I made progress with you failure of a child and am sure you could use he same advice. Now-“

Jean: You KNOW WHAT?!!! I am ready! I don’t need half of my power levels to beat the likes of you. I barely have to think at all before I blow you off LIKE F****ING STORM AGAINST ANT-MAN ON A LEAF IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER!!!!!!

Emma:.....Was it around Halloween time you realized that because I hear that’s when Zombies get a buy two-get-one free at the Brain in a Jar store. You could have really used one, but it might be worth your while to take advantage of their return policy because yours seems to be malfunctioning.

Jean: I SWEAR EMMA, I-

Scott: Oh, for god sake, why are you yelling Jean?!

Jean: *sigh* Nothing, Scott. Go back to sleep.

Scott: ....*grumbles*

Jean: Look Emma, I don’t have time for this. It’s late and I have a class to teach tomorrow, so if you don’t mind, this zombie needs some rest on her deathbed. I will have Storm take a rain check for that fight on the Astral Plane once I clear my schedule somewhere. Bye. *hangs up*

Emma:........*dials*

*rings*

Magneto: This is Magneto. Who calls?

Emma: Oh Magnus, a simple hello will suffice for introductions.

Magneto: Emma Frost! You have some gall, to contact me?!! The one who will send your straight to depths of he-

Emma: Yes, Yes, big scary villain. Grrrr. Listen, I’m in need of your services. You’ve killed Jean once, so I-

Magneto: EMMA! As much as I love to join your personal vendetta against the Grey child, I did not kill Miss Grey. Even if I did, I would not go on and do a favor for someone whom I loathe. And unlike you, I happen to like Miss Grey.

Emma: So, does everyone else on this godforsaken planet, yet the poor dear still ends up dead. She’s a walking zombie that’s need to be stopped.

Magneto:....I don’t know what nonsense you have in mind Emma, but you may disregard the notion that I would help you.

Emma: Even if I say please?

Magneto: Goodbye, Emma. *hangs up*

Emma: I guess I will have to go to make next best chance. *dial*

Cal: Hello, this Cal’s butcher shop. What would ya like?

Emma: Cal, darling, it’s Emma! Are you by chance in the cow poaching business still?

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@elpendejo: According to Red, Jean is on par with Cassandra, with maybe an edge to Jean given how afraid of Jean Cassandra is.

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@pyrofn:

*door bell rings*

Jean- Hi, can I help you?

Butcher- Yea, i got a call from a Ms. Frost saying she beat a cow to death and i should come and get it before it rises from the dead. It was weird.

Jean- ....Slams door

*Next Morning at Frost Manor*

Celeste- Ms Frost!!!

Emma- I'm up! I'm up! What happened? Why is the ceiling fan on the floor?

Phobe- "Someone" seems to have telekinetically rearranged the mansion. We have no idea who it couldve been....

Emma- Hmm. I see. That would explain why I'm underneath the mattress.

Irma- We just need to know Ms. Frost, was it worth it?

Emma- Girls, we are blondes. It's always worth it to remind them were better then everyone! Understand?

Celeste & Phoebe- Yes Ms Frost!

Irma- But your not even a natural blonde....

Emma- Shut Up and help me find where she put the kitchen.

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@pyrofn: I think they’re basically on par too, I’m just not sure who’d beat who. It’s a toss up in my opinion. By the way, you and @koays never disappoint me with your sketches lol

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Either clears or stops at Xavier. Cassandra is always morals off, seeing as to how she already tried to kill jean when she had the chance, and a morals-off Nova could not touch Jean telepathically. Jean, as much as they like to say no longer has to hold back, still always holds back and is a pacifist, so I do believe we haven't actually seen her cut loose with her power. I have no doubt she would beat Nova if she was forced to go all out, and since this is bloodlust Jean i say she clears

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stops at charles

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Isn't Quintin the fastest TP, as in he can attack faster than any other telepath?

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Loses against Quintin, guy has infinite and fastest telepathy power,might be the strongest telepath too.

Put him at level 8/9 at least.

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@goku9000: @smoothsanta: lmfao....no. serious just no. Quire supposedly thinks billions of thoughts a second. But its:

1- An outlier.

2- A feat from the arc where he was trying to amp his powers with kick.

3- Impossible to scale given that weve seen Xavier, Exodus, Rachel, and Emma have conversations inbetween seconds.

Quire has never beaten anyone of note unamped.

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@goku9000 said:

Loses against Quintin, guy has infinite and fastest telepathy power,might be the strongest telepath too.

Put him at level 8/9 at least.

no

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Stops at 7 or clears.

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Since it's bloodlust I will say Jean clears. She has the sufficient skill and power to edge out the top contenders ever so slightly

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@goku9000 said:

Loses against Quintin, guy has infinite and fastest telepathy power,might be the strongest telepath too.

Put him at level 8/9 at least.

he doesn't have the feats

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@koays: I’m also pretty sure Emma was being sarcastic when she said that too, given who Emma is.

That is speculation of course, but I imagine that to be the case since Quentin has not demonstrated anything on that level.

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@pyrofn: I’m also pretty sure Quire was already on kick at that point. I think that quote should be taken with a grain of salt.

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@koays: Also, this is overdue...

Construction Worker: So, uh....how exactly did this happen Miss Frost?

Emma: Let’s just say you piss off the wrong people, your life turns upside down...and your so does your kitchen.

Worker: Uh-huh. And uh, how exactly do you want us to do this? Do you want us to try to salvage your old furniture and appliances?

Emma: No, no. Just take all to the junkyard at this address.

Worker: Isn’t this that, uh, special school in Central Park?

Emma: It was, but it will probably be destroyed. It’s been a month since it last filled it’s destruction quota, so they will need to be doing some clean up soon anyways.

Worker: I see. Well, if that’s the case, can you uh, sign here for any collateral and to handle any cases that they may try to sue us in?

Emma: Yes, Yes. Here it is. One more thing. Can drop it off at this location, through the window of this room of this red-head, of the school at this time in the morning? Here’s your tip.

Worker: HO-HO!!! Keep tipping us like this Miss Frost, I will drop my family there. Lord knows I could use a new one.

Emma: Get rid of your beer belly, and maybe you could.

Worker: Whatevah. Consider it done!

*next day*

Jean: EMMAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Scott: *muffled* Jean? Jean is that you? I can’t find my glasses in here. Can you use your telekinesis to get me and my glasses? Jean?

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@goku9000 said:

Loses against Quintin, guy has infinite and fastest telepathy power,might be the strongest telepath too.

Put him at level 8/9 at least.

you might wanna read more than just 2-3 x-men titles. Even the damn Cuckoos punked him

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@corapvp: The worst part about it is, he took over Cerebra to top it all off.

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@pyrofn: I would not go as far as saynig he was actually using Cerebra to buff himself though. That would be totally illogical for the Cuckoos to stomp him if he had the Cerebra buff

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1) Stepford Cuckoos 3-in1: Jean beats them

2) Quentin Quire: Jean beats Quire

3) Psylocke: she beats Psylocke

4) Rachel Grey: beats Rachel

5) Emma Frost: hard fight, she beats Emma

6) Exodus: she beats him

7) Cassandra Nova: stalemate

8) Shadow King: she could lose

9) Professor Xavier: she loses.

That'd without rest. I see her stopping at Cassandra Nova.

Without rest, she stops at Rachel.

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Based on what I've seen, stops around about 7. Cassandra plays very dirty and unique in terms of telepathic battles and defence, and prefers to be sneaky in rather than go for a straight on battle, which throws a lot of telepaths off their game.

We've already seen her take out Emma by her unconscious defences alone, as well as a amped Xavier using Cerebra (which amps telepathy by ten times the usual strength, as stated by the Cuckoos themselves) so a default Jean would absolutely have a pretty rough time against her. She can maybe win a good minority, but not enough to confidently say she can pass Nova.

Actually, Nova never defeated Xavier in combat. When she attacked him while he was on Cerebra, he was not prepared at all for a psychic assault nor was he even aware of who she was. After she ambushed him and caught him with his defenses down, he was very confident he could take her in a psychic duel without Cerebra.

When they met in person, and he was about to shut her mind down, she struck him with a TK blast before he could attack her mind.

I don't know why people take the Nova/Xavier thing out of context.

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#36  Edited By coraPVP

@del_torro: your list seems fair enough. Jean vs Xavier is very much a toss-up from me. I say Jean stalemates Xavier or clears. However about Cassandra:

@pyrofn said:

@elpendejo: According to Red, Jean is on par with Cassandra, with maybe an edge to Jean given how afraid of Jean Cassandra is.

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@pyrofn: I think they’re basically on par too, I’m just not sure who’d beat who. It’s a toss up in my opinion. By the way, you and @koays never disappoint me with your sketches lol

Morals-off Cassandra Nova could only stalemate a passive,pacifist Jean, and even recruited Rachel to help damage her. So I think it is reasonable to favor a bloodlusted Jean over Nova. Especially that JWD and Rosenberg both confirmed that Jean is more powerful than Xavier, and Cassandra should be around his equal given that she's basically the opposite side of the coin of him, and probably isn't as skilled as him.I don't think anyone actually puts Nova above Xavier anyway

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@koays: Ahhahahahha lmfao that’s actually how that conversation would go

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#39  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

5) Emma Frost will give her mid- high difficulty

6) Exodus would give her mid difficultly

7) Cassandra, likely stops here

8) Jean beats shadow king mid difficulty

9) Xavier beats Jean

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still stops at 9 or clears

5) Emma Frost will give her mid- high difficulty

6) Exodus would give her low-mid difficultly

7) Cassandra, likely stops here

8) Jean beats shadow king mid difficulty

9) Xavier beats Jean

why would exodus give her low-dif? even though Emma>Exodus, he is still in the same ballpark and would give her (emma) hell. He should do about just as well or even better than Emma seeing as to how Jean knows Emma's weaknesses

but i agree cassandra would give jean a harder time than shadow king

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@koays said:

@pyrofn:

*door bell rings*

Jean- Hi, can I help you?

Butcher- Yea, i got a call from a Ms. Frost saying she beat a cow to death and i should come and get it before it rises from the dead. It was weird.

Jean- ....Slams door

*Next Morning at Frost Manor*

Celeste- Ms Frost!!!

Emma- I'm up! I'm up! What happened? Why is the ceiling fan on the floor?

Phobe- "Someone" seems to have telekinetically rearranged the mansion. We have no idea who it couldve been....

Emma- Hmm. I see. That would explain why I'm underneath the mattress.

Irma- We just need to know Ms. Frost, was it worth it?

Emma- Girls, we are blondes. It's always worth it to remind them were better then everyone! Understand?

Celeste & Phoebe- Yes Ms Frost!

Irma- But your not even a natural blonde....

Emma- Shut Up and help me find where she put the kitchen.

Jean should change Emma's hair color back to whatever it originally was lmao she would totally get pissed

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@marvelfan1992: “Jean should change Emma's hair color back to whatever it originally was lmao she would totally get pissed”

........

Emma: *blood curtling scream* I am gonna kill that no good, spoiled, salty, slimy, red-headed dead meat!!!!!

Mindee: Cheer up Ms. Frost! We dyed our hair too, at one point.

Emma: Yes, Mindee. It was an awful haircut. Now is not the time to remind us of your blunders though!

Phoebe: Just dye it back, then.

Emma: You don’t get it. This will happen again and again until that little jealous vulture has learned not to mess with Emma Grace Frost!!!

Celeste: But Miss Frost, Miss Grey can’t be killed.

Emma: Ugh. Damn cosmic vulture.....okay, here’s what we will do.

*******************

Jean: Black? She chose black hair? Not the worst choice to go with. It’s not exactly me though....

Cyclops: Oh hey, you must be new. Scott Summers. Have you happened to see a red-head around here? About as tall as you are, eyes as green as yours, skin like yours, and red-hair as long as your black hair?

Jean:........Nope. Haven’t seen anyone like that. Karen Grant, please to meet ya.

Emma: *walks in* So. Has our little Grey enjoyed her new doo?

Scott: Sorry, Emma. Can’t find Jean anywhere, but this is Karen Grant.

Emma: What?

Jean: Pardon me but I have to go now. Who knows, maybe what’s-her-name will show up at some point. Later!

Kitty: Hey, Karen.

Bishop: Karen! Your back!

Emma: She’s done this before?

Scott: Whose done what before?

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@pyrofn: omg I just saw this now. What a mess of a convo lmao

OT: It's funny how the majority of the votes are that she either stops at Nova or clears, but not much at stopping at Shadow King or Xavier lol

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@pyrofn: omg I just saw this now. What a mess of a convo lmao

OT: It's funny how the majority of the votes are that she either stops at Nova or clears, but not much at stopping at Shadow King or Xavier lol

It is most likely because people view Cassandra Nova as superior to Shadow King. Not sure why there aren't more votes for stopping at Xavier though

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@marvelfan1992: Oh my god. I forgot about these parodies! @koays got some good ones in.

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@martinceld: well yeah, Nova has high ends like stomping Xavier connected to Cerebra, stomping Jean in their first encounter, controlling Emma through her diamond form, taking control of Rachel and also easily taking her down with a TP attack, but without much low ends, if at all. Whereas Shadow King has high ends, but a shit ton of low ends as well like losing to psylocke a couple of times, being contained by her, losing to Karma on the astral plane, being resisted by Nightcrawler etc.

@pyrofnyou guys and your parodies lol

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This is so out of order (BTW stops at 3)