Jean Grey, Rachel Summers, Magneto & Polaris VS Moondragon, Phyla Vell, Sersi & Ikaris

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RULES-

  • Start 50ft apart
  • Full Knowledge
  • Near Perfect Teamwork
  • Random Encounter
  • Win by Death or KO

FIGHT HERE:

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Team 1 due to Rachel and Jean's superior telepathy

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Yeah, Team 1 takes this. Rachel and Jean can focus on TP while Magneto and Polaris keep Team 2 busy

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Depends on how they match up. If they go for strictly 1v1 fights imma lean towards team 2 as lorna seems to be a weak link and would lose to anyone she fights faster than her teammates would defeat their opponents.

However in a team fight, lorna and erik working in unison is enough for a stall that jean and rachel can dominate with their combined tp

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Team 1 IMO

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Depends on how they match up. If they go for strictly 1v1 fights imma lean towards team 2 as lorna seems to be a weak link and would lose to anyone she fights faster than her teammates would defeat their opponents.

However in a team fight, lorna and erik working in unison is enough for a stall that jean and rachel can dominate with their combined tp

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Team 1 due to Rachel and Jean's superior telepathy

I won't believe that Jean and Rachel are superior to Moondragon. Her current form is more powerful than ever and yet previously she had enslaved a whole planet with her mind. That is far above both of them. Sersi may not be as powerful but she is extremely capable, having nearly beaten the mutant Exodus who has already beaten Rachel and once enslaved an older version of Jean grey. In a fight I believe Moondragon would be too much for either of them without their telekinesis while Sersi would easily stomp either in a fight using her transmutation.

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Team 2 wins unless Magneto and Polaris combine their powers to give everyone a planetary stroke or some other form of internal attack.

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@purplehairedni1 said:

Team 1 due to Rachel and Jean's superior telepathy

I won't believe that Jean and Rachel are superior to Moondragon. Her current form is more powerful than ever and yet previously she had enslaved a whole planet with her mind. That is far above both of them. Sersi may not be as powerful but she is extremely capable, having nearly beaten the mutant Exodus who has already beaten Rachel and once enslaved an older version of Jean grey. In a fight I believe Moondragon would be too much for either of them without their telekinesis while Sersi would easily stomp either in a fight using her transmutation.

Several things wrong with this.

1) Moondragon didn't enslave a whole planet. Her control wasn't constant or absolute, as she primarily resorted to sending out psychic suggestions, and it required a large amount of effort on her part. The planet's population was also 92 million.

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And in terms of psychic battles, her track record sucks. She has lost more times than she has won.

Both Jean and Rachel have planetary feats, on Earth, with a lot more than 92 million people.

2) Sersi was overwhelmed by an inexperienced/young Exodus. Current Exodus' telepathy is much more powerful, but he has been blocked by both Emma Frost and Rachel.

3) Exodus never enslaved Jean Grey in canon. His only encounters with her were in the 90s, when she was much weaker than she currently is.

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Team 2, someone who fought equally against a skyfather level being(that one shot nova) is too much for anyone on team 1 to handle.

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@olorun: But struggles with Nebula lol at Sky father level phyla

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Team 2 stomps. Ikaris speedblitz bullrushes Jean and Rachel before they do anything. Then helps team 2 clean up the rest.

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Lolllll skyfather-level Phyla….

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Team one

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@purplehairedni1: low end. With moondragon on her team, she can use her tp so she doesn't need to hold back.

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@geekryan: still can't debunk the instance, so you resort to mockery.

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#20  Edited By PurplehairedNi1

@olorun: How is it a lowball when that's her only two feats lol fighting Nebula and fighting a God. What has happened to consistency

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@purplehairedni1: if you think fighting nebula(Street level) should be considered a proper feat than you're quite literally just lowballing the character.

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@olorun: Nebula ain't no street leveler she's a mid tier just like phyla vell. Nebula has weapons that can harm high tier characters and her Physicals is good enough to fight Gamora and Ronan so she's by no means a street leveler.

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Team 2 stomps. Ikaris speedblitz bullrushes Jean and Rachel before they do anything. Then helps team 2 clean up the rest.

YH This ain't happening. Ikaris Has been tagged and outright matched by Apocalypse. A character Jean has reacted to and affected with her TK. So Jean won't have any problem reacting to him. She takes him out with TP off the Bat (Note I'm not one of those people who think TP is faster than everything but jean genuinelly has the feats to suggest she can react to Ikaris) The other telepaths on Team 2 don't really match up to Jean or Rachel and if Polaris decides to amp Magneto to classic levels he's gonna be outputting too much offence for anyone on team 2 to deal with.

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#24  Edited By nassergrant19

@godlyshinigami: Ikaris never bullrushed Apocalypse, only dodged his heat vision. Ikaris tags Apolocalypse first and Apocalypse grabs him when they are up close.

Ikaris’s bullrush is FTL and he has combat speed on par with Makkari through Cosmic Hulk. They get blitzed and one shot with his superior power.

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@nassergrant19:

Ikaris never bullrushed Apocalypse, only dodged his heat vision

YH and His heat vision is faster than him as it's able to reach his opponents faster than he can.

Ikaris tags Apolocalypse first and Apocalypse grabs him when they are up close.

The Fact that Apocalypse was able to grab him , still means he got tagged

Ikaris’s bullrush is FTL and he has combat speed on par with Makkari through Cosmic Hulk. They get blitzed and one shot with his superior power.

Despite all this he's still gotten tagged by slower characters... , Just because your faster doesn't mean you can't get tagged.

They get blitzed and one shot with his superior power.

Everyone on Team 1 is just as fast as Apocalypse (A Character who can react to and tagg Ikaris) While Ikaris is definitely faster , he can still get tagged and he can be reacted to. Jean Tags him and one-shots with TP.

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@godlyshinigami:

YH and His heat vision is faster than him as it's able to reach his opponents faster than he can.

No it isn’t it’s actually slower. That’s why Cosmic Hulk could dodge them while failing to react to Ikaris’s physical blitz.

The Fact that Apocalypse was able to grab him , still means he got tagged

When your up that close and not a speedster who runs in circles around the character your bound to be tagged. Plus that’s an outlier. Ikaris fights much faster characters on equal grounds.

Despite all this he's still gotten tagged by slower characters... ,

With context…

the fastest Marvel and DC characters have been tagged by slower characters.

Just because your faster doesn't mean you can't get tagged.

True but Jean isn’t reacting to a FTL bullrush blitz.

While Ikaris is definitely faster , he can still get tagged and he can be reacted to. Jean Tags him and one-shots with TP.

She can’t react to people in Ikaris’s speed tier. She gets oneshotted and vaped by his bullrush.